Master of The Dark Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 no when a spell says to treat a card as a normal monster it means to cansel all other effects and sub types like tuner and effect type monster so a tuner summoned by the spells effect it no longer a tuner or any of that, its then a normal monster with no effects at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalObelisk Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 It's pretty debatable, but I think King Mew is right, since technically Normal Monster is a sub-type as well just like Effect Monsters, Union Monsters etc. Therefor if it's treated as a Normal Monser it cancels out any other sub-type it would usually have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP0RE Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Was I allowed to join? Or did my app get buried on page 59? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Psyduck Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 The card doesn't make it a non-tuner though, so it should stay a tuner. Gemini monsters being treated as normal monsters are still Gemini monsters, so tuners should stay tuners if they're made normal monsters for whatever reason (except for tuned magician, because it is 'treated as' a tuner by it's effect). Most real cards simply negate the effects of the card in question, rather than making them a normal monster, which simplifies the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalObelisk Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 @Spore: Since I'm a co-host I'll accept your app, have fun :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior_Tal Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Alright I am ready for another duel. Who's ready LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of The Dark Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Ok EVeryone we have 9 duelists need 11 more in 2 1/2 days. so come on ppl lets get it going or am i going to have to make it more tempting.nedd rule for the duel: IF YOU WIN AND YOU DO NOT WANT A RARE CARD YOU MAY PICK 2 STARTER DECKS, OR 4 BOOSTER PACKS, OR YOU MAY PICK A COUPON TO GET ANY ORDER OVER $40.00 FOR FREE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortalKombatSmoke Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 okay okay sorry not used to the synchro thing!!!! I don't have any real synchro cards and I grew up with the Fusion monsters. also I'm just trying to even the playing field a bit. also THERE IS WAY TO MUCH s*** GOING ON THE FIELD AT ONCE! There are like five monster effects, spells and traps all being continuous and my head is killing me! I'm sorry about the back up thing and I'll edit the card but just there is so much going on that it's easy to forget one monster's effect when there are four other ones with already extremely long effects okay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwilightSoul Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Well you have to expect that in a tag duel, but its really simple if you are cofused about something we will help you out dude. I know you can get lost with my monsters cards effects but if you need me to I can post the lore for each card. as of right now my field has 3M and 1 spell two effects triggers form a opponent spell card being played and the other from sp summon. the other effect are tied to my monsters for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of The Dark Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 I only have one monster on the feild and his effect doent activate unless he attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwilightSoul Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Tainted springs- my spellcard. This card can only be activated if you have a face-up BlackBlood monster on the field, When your opponet activates a spell card he/she must randomly discard 1 card from his/her hand. BlackBlood - Arcane Corrupter in Atk mode Whenever a card's effect is activated that changes this card's ATK or DEF, that card's effects are reversed.Once per turn, if this card would be destroyed by battle, it is not destroyed. (Damage calculation is applied normally). Each time a Spell Card is activated decreases the Atk and Def of all face-up monsters by 300.  (( So when a spell is played all faceup monsters are reduced by 300 ))BlackBlood - Lunar Walker in Atk modeWhenever a card's effect is activated that changes this card's ATK or DEF, that card's effects are reversed.If you control a BlackBlood monster other than BlackBlood - Lunar Walker, you can Special Summon this card from your hand. As long as this face-up monster renains on the field any monster that is Special summoned has it's Atk and Def reduced by 1000. (( when someone is Sp summon they lose 1000 atk/def)) BlackBlood - Sword Mistress in Atk modeWhenever a card's effect is activated that changes this card's ATK or DEF, that card's effects are reversed.If you control a BlackBlood monster other than BlackBlood - Sword Mistress, you can Special Summon this card from your hand. When this card destroys a monster by a result of battle and sends it to the graveyard, select 1 face-up monster on the field and decrease it's Atk equal to the Def of the destroyed monster.( this effect only applys if i destory a monster so no worries))and also all BB monster gain atk when they should lose it and vise versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of The Dark Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 hey soul luners effect would switch Arcnes effect so all monsters on the field gain 300 each time a spell is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortalKombatSmoke Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 alright, I'll edit my post, maybe should draw a new hand too. and editing Necromancer's back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwilightSoul Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 no the BB monster apllys to them not other monsters so if a bb is sp it gains 1000, but if a non bb is sp summon they lose 1000. lunar effect deals with sp summon, and arcan deals with spell cards mew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of The Dark Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 ok soul i got ya. hey MKS can you finish you turn then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexsuncion Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Just a heads-up on the Tuner thing. I was looking at the Yugioh Wiki concerning Synchro-Tuners, and eventually found my way to tuners and tuning itself. Just like Gemini Monsters and such, negating effects does not negate being a tuner(Except in the case of The Tuner Magician, who becomes a tuner be virtue of his effect). Meaning that yes, even though its efeects of "Tickle one monster on the field" is negated, it is still a tuner. Why bring this up now...? It led me to think about Tuners that can only be used for specific types of monsters, such as Torapart. While the Anti-Trap effect wouldn't apply, Torapart's effect of only being usable for the Synchro of a warrior wouldn't! Fascinating isn't it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Psyduck Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Actually, restrictions on what synchros a tuner can be used for are conditions, not effects, so negating those monster's effects won't let them be used for the summoning of other monsters. (On the other hand, it means you can still use Quickdraw Synchron as a substitute tuner even with Skill Drain out). The debate in the above issue was that the spell lets it be summoned as a normal monster, rather than simply negating the effect, leading to the question of 'Does making it a normal monster mean it's no longer a tuner, as well as no longer an effect monster?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexsuncion Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Ahhhh! I see! Are there similar cards to "Summon this as a normal monster" Otherwise, it sounds like an oddly worded "This monster's effects are negated whiles its on the field-blah blah". However I seem to recall something a bit more detailed of fence shattering than what I said on the wiki. However, I don't care enough to look it up, so I will happily take a seat on the fence! *Sits on the fence and becomes a fence stander, breaking the law of metaphysics and giving someone somewhere a headache* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of The Dark Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 he MKS can you finish you turn please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of The Dark Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 CARD SHOP TOURNAMENT SIGN UPS WILL BE CLOSED AT 5 THIS AFTER NOON AND THE CONTEST WILL START AROUND 8. WE STILL NEED 10 MORE PLAYERS TO SIGN UP, WE HAVE 10 RIGHT NOW BUT IM LOOKING FOR A BIGGER NUMBER SO EVEN IF 2 TA 4 PEOPLE JOIN WELL BE GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of The Dark Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Ill leave entery to the tourenament open until 7 for everyone. so come on people can we get a few more entries please? Id like to have more then 10 people in the tournament please join!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Demyx~ Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 So much to read...o.0...Anyway, sorry for this, but Im leaving for Maryland tommarow in the morning. Ill probably be back on Tuesday or Wednesday. I need someone to take Ike, Micheal and Conrad for me. Whoever takes Conrad can finish the triangle duel...I just cant get any time on here for some reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of The Dark Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Ill take Ike for you.If you don't mind but can you Pm my his deck list wit effects and pics for the custom cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortalKombatSmoke Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Hey guys, let me ask you something, how long can this thing really last without it's owner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalObelisk Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Well it's gone a month so far and it's survived somehow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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