Lexadin Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 I know, it's like putting out a fire with a barrel of gasoline, lol. Even a simple Burn strategy should easely win from the Machine Emperors. EDIT: Also can the following card be effective in a Deck that is based on making all cards be treated as face-down cards?[spoiler=Cards]This card can only be Ritual Summoned with the Ritual Spell Card, "Legends of the Night". Increase the ATK of this card by 200 for each face-down card on the field. Once per turn, by destroying 1 face-down card you control, you can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "Nightwatch" monster from your hand. That monster's effect is negated. This card is used to Ritual Summon "Noxius, the Nightwatch Legend". You must also Tribute monsters whose total Levels equal 8 or more from the field or your hand. You can remove from play this card from your Graveyard to negate the destruction of a "Noxius, the Nightwatch Legend" or a "City of Lasting Night". Nightwatch is the Archtype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted October 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 It looks fine. "Book of Taiyou" (or whatever it's called) would have a field day with the Archetype. And I'm now bored of "Reverse of Arcadia". It's so frustrating just how broken the "Fableds" are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 I know, they can easely get any monster on the field, especially Dianaira.I once fought a newbish duelist that had like 2 of them on the field in 1 turn. Luckely I had a Mirror force, but otherwise I would have been screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted October 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 I know, they can easely get any monster on the field, especially Dianaira.I once fought a newbish duelist that had like 2 of them on the field in 1 turn. Luckely I had a Mirror force, but otherwise I would have been screwed. Well, you've got to face a good one in the Tournament mode of "Arcadia" and it's just so stupid to face. I've beaten it a few times with my "Glad Beasts", but most of the time, they have nothing on the field, before summoning four monsters and then Synchro Summoning a Level 8/10 with a trio of them. Surely even Konami realise they've made a mistake with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Well, you've got to face a good one in the Tournament mode of "Arcadia" and it's just so stupid to face. I've beaten it a few times with my "Glad Beasts", but most of the time, they have nothing on the field, before summoning four monsters and then Synchro Summoning a Level 8/10 with a trio of them. Surely even Konami realise they've made a mistake with them? I did, though I never really had that much problems with them. Or do you mean the downloadables? Anyways they are broken like Hell and I think that's the reason that Konami stopped supporting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted October 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 @ Lex: Could you suggest any good Fiend Archetypes; since I'm not an expert on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Besides the Fabled you mean? Well there are of course the mediocre Archfiends, Evil Hero's can be considered as a Fiend-Archtype, Dark World and there are the, uhm, eh. Now that I think of it there are a suprisingly low amount of pure-Fiend-Archtypes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted October 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Besides the Fabled you mean? Well there are of course the mediocre Archfiends, Evil Hero's can be considered as a Fiend-Archtype, Dark World and there are the, uhm, eh. Now that I think of it there are a suprisingly low amount of pure-Fiend-Archtypes. Yes. I was thinking about the "Dark Lucius" series, but it doesn't have to be pure-Fiend. Either that, or are there any Archetypes you particually like? EDIT: Why does 5Ds need another clip show?! That's three so far! The original series and GX had two over the whole series! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Well I always liked Theinen though it's not really an archtype, I also like the Arcana Force, Evil Heroes, VWXYZ and Yubel Decks. But if I had to choose, I would choose Evil Heroes. Idk, but wasn't 5D's always the weakest one in the litter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted October 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Well I always liked Theinen though it's not really an archtype, I also like the Arcana Force, Evil Heroes, VWXYZ and Yubel Decks. But if I had to choose, I would choose Evil Heroes. Idk, but wasn't 5D's always the weakest one in the litter? I'm not fond on using anime-featured Archetypes. Also, in the anime continuum, the "Evil Heroes" are the corrupted counterparts of the "E-Heroes", created by the darkness in Jaden's heart and were destroyed upon his defeat. As for 5Ds, it was created on the agreement that it was to be the last series of YGO. But it had potential. After all, the original series had dealt with the dark nature of the shadow games, formed from evil energies in the pursuit of power. GX had extended that to the cosmos, revealing that the universe was in turmoil; the battle between Yin and Yang controlling the future of living beings, choosing avatars in the "Neo-Spacians" and the "Arcana Force" respectively. 5Ds could have continued that story; the battle cumulating in a battle of legendary beings. The Signer Dragons (the five most important Aztec gods) and the "Earthbound Immortals" (several Incan deities whose rose to protect their people from the Aztec invasion) could have been used as evidence for a much older start of the conflict on Earth, the Dark Signers being the envoys of the passive darkness (in essence, the good guys). Eventually, (the Dark Signer arc being moved to the end of the series, and "Yliaster" being revealed as forces in league with the Light of Destruction) the two most powerful beings would have clashed; "Crimson Star Dragon" and "Earthbound Immortal Allocuaymac" duelling to determine the course of destiny. That's what 5Ds could have been. The conclusion to the battle that forms the core of YGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Lol, now you've mentioned it. They do all apear in the Anime. Mhh, I shall think about another 1. Yep, it had a lot of potential and even I kinda liked the Dark Signers Arc, but once again, Konami had to screw things up and made these Yliaster guys the main bad guys. EDIT: I did also like WATER beatdown Decks, but that isn't really an archtype, is it? EDIT2: Gosh how can I forget them. They are they only Archtype I like that has Synchro(s). The Aliens.They are my fav non-Anime Archtype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted October 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Lol, now you've mentioned it. They do all apear in the Anime. Mhh, I shall think about another 1. Yep, it had a lot of potential and even I kinda liked the Dark Signers Arc, but once again, Konami had to screw things up and made these Yliaster guys the main bad guys. EDIT: I did also like WATER beatdown Decks, but that isn't really an archtype, is it? A WATER Deck could be a possibility. I'll see what I can do. Also, for some reason, the new Machine Emperor is called "Machine Emperor Machinecle Infinity Cubic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Lols, sound kinda wierd. Also, I edited my prev post (again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted October 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Lols, sound kinda wierd. Also, I edited my prev post (again). A good idea. But I'll need help on making an "Alien" Deck, since I've never used them (at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Really? I use them quite a lot. Well I shall PM you the basics tomorow, seeing as I have 2 log out for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted October 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Really? I use them quite a lot. Well I shall PM you the basics tomorow, seeing as I have 2 log out for today. Thanks. Bye then. EDIT: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gladiator_Beast_Lanista "Gladiator Beasts" are back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Well, technically I was going to put in an insect mill deck, you were right on that fact. But it isn't for a spyder deck, I absolutely do not want to build an spyder deck, I have an insect deck and I'll go with Max's fix b/c it works their, b/c I have an insect deck that stopped an infernity deck, amazingly. But its up to date and better than ever, but I want it to mill really well. But thank you. @Lex: No, my seasonal shop would be open all year round, of course. But what I was getting at was to have it so certain items would only be able to get during that season, like limited edition items. If that helps. Make it a brain teaser, and if you really wanted that item from that year, and it was like 4 or 5 yrs, I would charge heavily on it, but they could get it, as a collecters thing. Do you think this might be a good idea. ----------- Well, gee, gone for awhile and this place gets lots of activity. wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 Thx Lex. The Cost in there is to keep them balance because without that cost than they could be OP'd. And yes the images are from JazinKay's Archive Thats 4/6 these are the last 2 ( i have some other new cards but i am gonna post them 2 at time to make it less to read at a time) [spoiler=monsterous commander]Once per turn, you can shuffle 1 EARTH monster in hand to your Deck to Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower EARTH monster in your Graveyard. A monster Summoned by this effect cannot attack and its effect is negated until the End Phase. While your control another EARTH monster except "Monsterous Commander Maium" EARTH monster's you control cannot be destroyed by your opponent's monster effects. When this card is removed from the field destroy all monsters Summoned by this card's effect. During the End Phase, reveal 1 EARTH monster in your hand or destroy this card. [spoiler=twin commanders]1 WATER or Beast-Warrior-type tuner + 1 or more Non-Tuner WATER or Beast-Warrior-Type monstersOnce per turn, place 1 WATER or Beast-Warrior-Type monster in your hand to the bottom of your Deck than draw 1 card. While you control another WATER or Beast-Warrior-Type monster except "Twin Commanders Icikimus and Blizirus" WATER and Beast-Warrior-Type monsters you control cannot be Removed from play by the effect of a Spell or Trap. During each of your End Phases, reveal 1 WATER or Beast-Warrior-Type monster you control or destroy this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Thanks. Bye then. EDIT: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gladiator_Beast_Lanista "Gladiator Beasts" are back! Sorry that I couldn't PM you before, as my title says my comp has a virus and I can only use a slow laptop to post. Well, technically I was going to put in an insect mill deck, you were right on that fact. But it isn't for a spyder deck, I absolutely do not want to build an spyder deck, I have an insect deck and I'll go with Max's fix b/c it works their, b/c I have an insect deck that stopped an infernity deck, amazingly. But its up to date and better than ever, but I want it to mill really well. But thank you. @Lex: No, my seasonal shop would be open all year round, of course. But what I was getting at was to have it so certain items would only be able to get during that season, like limited edition items. If that helps. Make it a brain teaser, and if you really wanted that item from that year, and it was like 4 or 5 yrs, I would charge heavily on it, but they could get it, as a collecters thing. Do you think this might be a good idea. ----------- Well, gee, gone for awhile and this place gets lots of activity. wow. That's what I meant, if some items are only available people will try to get it elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted October 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 It's fine Lex. I've made a few alterations to my "Eisenfalke" card, trying to make it more balanced. Originally, it kept the affected monster on the field and also granted burn damage. The trade off is that you can now use a high-ATK monster to boost this card's DEF instead of only its ATK and there's no level limit on the tributed monster. Also, it fits in with the other Maschine-Kaisers' effects revolving around ATK-gain through various means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Mhh, sounds effective Max. Also i send you the PM with the info about the Aliens. I hope it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 It seems balanced enough Max. I can see Machina Gadgets having a lot of fun with the card, once they have a few Fortresses out, and any spare Gadgets in hand. You know, summon Fortress, activate that guys effect, send Fortress to the Grave, then you have a 5000 ATK beater, and with two spare GAdgets in hand, you can summon Fortress back. But honestly, I would rather just keep my Fortresses and attack with them. This guy is pretty much just for running over bigger monsters the way I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Exactly, I think that's also the way Max mented it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Once per turn, you can shuffle 1 EARTH monster in hand to your Deck to Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower EARTH monster in your Graveyard. A monster Summoned by this effect cannot attack and its effect is negated until the End Phase. While your control another EARTH monster except "Monsterous Commander Maium" EARTH monster's you control cannot be destroyed by your opponent's monster effects. When this card is removed from the field destroy all monsters Summoned by this card's effect. During the End Phase, reveal 1 EARTH monster in your hand or destroy this card.1 WATER or Beast-Warrior-type tuner + 1 or more Non-Tuner WATER or Beast-Warrior-Type monstersOnce per turn, place 1 WATER or Beast-Warrior-Type monster in your hand to the bottom of your Deck than draw 1 card. While you control another WATER or Beast-Warrior-Type monster except "Twin Commanders Icikimus and Blizirus" WATER and Beast-Warrior-Type monsters you control cannot be Removed from play by the effect of a Spell or Trap. During each of your End Phases, reveal 1 WATER or Beast-Warrior-Type monster you control or destroy this card.Can i get some feedback on the last 2 Attribute Commanders please. And also how is everyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 Sorry, the comp that I'm on can't really process cards (yeah, I know, Ironic) so I can't judge your cards. Also my day has beenslightly bad, despite the fact that my Pc has I virus, all the things I try to do seem to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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