Newb Defense League III [locked because remake]

[Master White]

@Lexadin: Well, so far, other then the ridicoluos duelers, like captain corn and tomato head and all those food-themed duelers, it seems alright....Next, we will see proly an anatomical robot who can turn itself into a d-wheel and duel with motorcycle cards, or those cards that relate with tricycular and etc....

 

I hope not, but you never Know about Konami....I should proly get going, its an half-hour before work and I need to go eat and etc....So, toodles...

[Lexadin]

Though you have to admit, those wierd 'hunters' are only in the Manga, and that's not always the same as the Anime.

 

Also, on the topic from yesterday, I finally found an img that is acceptable. However, I do want to know if the img would be of acceptable quality as I needed to do ALOT of editing, in which I'm not good at, to it.

So do you guys think the img is of acceptable quality?

[Northern Sage]

It seems fine.

Meanwhile, I did some expansion on Guardians for a contest, and need an OCG checkup. Based on the Anemoi from Greek Mythology.

Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned by it's own effect. You can banish up to 3 "Guardian" Monsters in your graveyard; Special Summon this card (from your hand or graveyard). This card gains 300 ATK for each monster used to Summon this card. Once per turn: You can send 1 Equip Spell Card from your hand to the graveyard; Apply the effect of that card on this monster.

[Lexadin]

It seems fine.

Meanwhile, I did some expansion on Guardians for a contest, and need an OCG checkup. Based on the Anemoi from Greek Mythology.

Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned by it's own effect. You can banish up to 3 "Guardian" Monsters in your graveyard; Special Summon this card (from your hand or graveyard). This card gains 300 ATK for each monster used to Summon this card. Once per turn: You can send 1 Equip Spell Card from your hand to the graveyard; Apply the effect of that card on this monster.

 

Good to hear.

 

Mhh, it certainly seems like a'Guardian' boss, and certianly will work. But I don't think it helps the 'Guardian' archetype that much as they need those Equip Spell to be on the field, not in the Grave. If you'd also temporarily changed the monster's name in the process of gaining it's abillity, then I'd say it's a bit more supportive.

Anywho, beside writing Graveyard without the caps, the OCG seems fine.

[Max Darkness]

Also, I don't know if you've seen the duel between Yuma vs. Droite & Gouche, but 'No.96' tried to take over Astral's body (of course he was beaten), but it showed an intersting aspect and some possible foreshadowing, as literally every 'No.' except for 'Hope' supported 'No.96', you can presume they either they hated Astral more then 'No.96' or that the higher the number the more power they possess over the other numbers.

Another thing is that was revealed that 'No.96' wanted to destroy our world, and was trying to confince Astral (somewhat forcefully) that he should join him. Of course Astral resisted, but it does rais the question if Dr.Faker was right. And that Astral was send to destroy us (possibly to stop the destruction of thier world), seeing as he has memory loss, he just might not remember his mission. That would make for an epic plottwist.

 

What I'm seeing in this is a parallel to Yubel's role in GX. For a long while, Yubel was an unseen villain, just a voice in people's heads or a demonic hand. After a while, she became more and more prominant, until the final duel between her and Jaden, when she was defeated. However, it became clear that her destructive tendancies were not because of pure evil, but because of a corrupted desire.

 

In the same way, "No.96" is a villianous entity inside Yuma, that needs to be defeated (it has clearly yet to be for good). Since all "Numbers" are formed out of human desires, it is highly likely that "Numbers" are drawn towards anything that has significant want. In "No.96's" case, it could still be running on the desires that formed it into the warped being it is...and that is drawing the other "Numbers" towards it. It makes sense because "No.96" was most likely formed out of a desire to lash out against the world, to destroy it by turning its own strength against it. Astral is both an enemy and potential ally in that its cause. Astral wants to contain the "Numbers", but if turned, could easily release them onto the world to reak havoc. "No.96" is destructive, but only because that is what it was formed from, along with the other "Numbers" formed from destructive, possessive, or emotional thoughts. "No.39" is resisting only because it was created out of Yuma's relatively innocent mind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like it.

 

 

 

It seems fine.

Meanwhile, I did some expansion on Guardians for a contest, and need an OCG checkup. Based on the Anemoi from Greek Mythology.

Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned by it's own effect. You can banish up to 3 "Guardian" Monsters in your graveyard; Special Summon this card (from your hand or graveyard). This card gains 300 ATK for each monster used to Summon this card. Once per turn: You can send 1 Equip Spell Card from your hand to the graveyard; Apply the effect of that card on this monster.

 

OCG FIx: Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must first be Special Summoned by its own effect. You can banish any number of "Guardian" monsters in your Graveyard (Max. 3): Special Summon this card (from your hand or Graveyard); This card gains 300 ATK for each monster banished to Summon this card. Once per turn: You can send 1 Equip Spell Card from your hand to the Graveyard; That card is treated as being equipped to this card.

 

One, I'd reduce the original ATK, since it's an easy Special Summon and it's running in an Equip Deck, so will rapidly climb in ATK anyway. Also, like Lex said, the "Guardians" do better with Equip Spells on the field, so you might want to change the effect to something that banishes Equip Spells in your Graveyard/send an Equip Spell from your hand to the Graveyard to add the specific Equip Spells from your Deck.

[Lexadin]

What I'm seeing in this is a parallel to Yubel's role in GX. For a long while, Yubel was an unseen villain, just a voice in people's heads or a demonic hand. After a while, she became more and more prominant, until the final duel between her and Jaden, when she was defeated. However, it became clear that her destructive tendancies were not because of pure evil, but because of a corrupted desire.

 

In the same way, "No.96" is a villianous entity inside Yuma, that needs to be defeated (it has clearly yet to be for good). Since all "Numbers" are formed out of human desires, it is highly likely that "Numbers" are drawn towards anything that has significant want. In "No.96's" case, it could still be running on the desires that formed it into the warped being it is...and that is drawing the other "Numbers" towards it. It makes sense because "No.96" was most likely formed out of a desire to lash out against the world, to destroy it by turning its own strength against it. Astral is both an enemy and potential ally in that its cause. Astral wants to contain the "Numbers", but if turned, could easily release them onto the world to reak havoc. "No.96" is destructive, but only because that is what it was formed from, along with the other "Numbers" formed from destructive, possessive, or emotional thoughts. "No.39" is resisting only because it was created out of Yuma's relatively innocent mind.

 

Now that you've mention it, that does make sence. However, ZeXal will probebly not tap into this souce they accedentaly dug up. Otherwise they could possibly be as dark as their predesessors!

However, even if they don't do it, it still makes some interesting fan-fics.

 

Also about 'Lex' he has 'No.81: Worm Dissigma', right? I kinda forgot, did I make a background for how it got in his possesion?

 

I like it.

 

Good, I think I'll start working on the card itself in a short while then, or possibly tomorow.

[Master White]

@Lex: Decent Pic

@Dragon Sage: Okay picture, decent effect, maybe somewhat op'd, but be like Max Said I guess or something, I'm not good at commenting cards anymore, and I hardly make cards, i want to, but b/c I'm on my dads dell computer, it'd take forever and 2nd, my old laptop is just dead, its defender turned into a virus, not sure how, but it did...

[Max Darkness]

Now that you've mention it, that does make sence. However, ZeXal will probebly not tap into this souce they accedentaly dug up. Otherwise they could possibly be as dark as their predesessors!

However, even if they don't do it, it still makes some interesting fan-fics.

 

Well, their writers do seem to be becoming more intelligent, so there's potential...

 

 

Also about 'Lex' he has 'No.81: Worm Dissigma', right? I kinda forgot, did I make a background for how it got in his possesion?

 

I don't believe so. I was going to go with the line that it manifested itself in his Deck in the same way Shark got his "Number".

[Lexadin]

Well, their writers do seem to be becoming more intelligent, so there's potential...

 

We can only hope.

 

I don't believe so. I was going to go with the line that it manifested itself in his Deck in the same way Shark got his "Number".

 

Actually I was talking about from which emotion/thought it was created. Cause I kinda forgot if I did something like that.

[Master White]

Well, I just found an recent piture which is still very disturbing.....

 

 

Can any of you know who could maybe nerf this into something cool? Just wondering....I sadly can't b/c my laptop is fried....

 

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@Lex: Yea, we can only hope there writers are becoming a little bit more intelligent.... And I hope some 5ds reference happens along the way, b/c they cut it off way too soon IMO....

[Max Darkness]

Actually I was talking about from which emotion/thought it was created. Cause I kinda forgot if I did something like that.

 

A desire to win through overwhelming tactical advantage (an un-chainable sending effect), born from several defeats from meta Decks that relied solely on brute force, and little strategy.

 

 

@Lex: Yea, we can only hope there writers are becoming a little bit more intelligent.... And I hope some 5ds reference happens along the way, b/c they cut it off way too soon IMO....

 

See 'Thunder Spark'...

[Master White]

@Max: Will look at it I guess....Must be relevant somehow...got it....thanks.....

[Max Darkness]

@ Lex: Have finally written out the draft for the Thunder Spark & Captain Corn duel...by cutting Captain Corn out completely... I couldn't pull off any interesting combos until I eliminated the fourth duelist and turned it into a two-on-one Royale Duel.

[Master White]

@Max: Other then him having a speed duel, I do not see any relevance to 5ds in it on the other hend, it could be, but I'm blonde, so I guess i'm just not seeing it..

 

 

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@Anyone to read:

Anyhow, you thought the Titan Project sounded interesting, well, as of now, I'm writing a different story, so I might as well enlighten you on my plan was....In yugioh 5ds, there was the momentum machine I think it was called, well, it gave life and power through yadada, well, the Project Titan was reverse of the machine; Kind of, a new machine in which could take away the power in order to create chaotic effects, like say, when dueling, it would absorb the power and you could use that to turn off gravity and or other evil plans....I hadn't thought thi all the way through, but in the End, I was going to make Yusei (Yes, as I want it to be protrayed as this would be the chapter after Zexal) be the bad guy b/c he would be involved in the project titan and the good character was going to be a trained airforce pilot with a good heart.....

 

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Basically in the end, it would be basically, fly dueling.....And the planes would transform when dueling so the monsters would be on the wings and etc.....Again, Not well thought out....

 

Thats the summary of Yugioh: Project Titan, which will proly not be moved through b/c I'm writing on a novel now, something that seems far more fitting and far more fun.....But I figured I'd let you know what my plot was on that to see what you thought....

 

So if you like it/hate or change it up and continue it, go ahead, but I'm far more interested in my new project....

 

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[Lexadin]

Can any of you know who could maybe nerf this into something cool? Just wondering....I sadly can't b/c my laptop is fried....

 

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@Lex: Yea, we can only hope there writers are becoming a little bit more intelligent.... And I hope some 5ds reference happens along the way, b/c they cut it off way too soon IMO....

 

Sorry, I can't help with Img, I can barely crop imgs decently. Making imgs from renders is way beond my league. Though I personally don't find it that disturbing, it kinda remembers me of flesh golems, but then less discusting.

 

Well I do think they could've expanded it some more, giving some background stories to storyless characters (like Paradox, you only know he was 1/4 survivors) or the AkizaxYusei relationship (which is one of the few shippings I support), but overal I think they did a decent job in finishing 5Ds.

 

A desire to win through overwhelming tactical advantage (an un-chainable sending effect), born from several defeats from meta Decks that relied solely on brute force, and little strategy.

 

Sounds believable. K, that was all I need to know.

 

@ Lex: Have finally written out the draft for the Thunder Spark & Captain Corn duel...by cutting Captain Corn out completely... I couldn't pull off any interesting combos until I eliminated the fourth duelist and turned it into a two-on-one Royale Duel.

 

Lol, well Cpt. Corn wasn't quite a desireable charater anyways. So I don't mind.

 

@Anyone to read:

Anyhow, you thought the Titan Project sounded interesting, well, as of now, I'm writing a different story, so I might as well enlighten you on my plan was....In yugioh 5ds, there was the momentum machine I think it was called, well, it gave life and power through yadada, well, the Project Titan was reverse of the machine; Kind of, a new machine in which could take away the power in order to create chaotic effects, like say, when dueling, it would absorb the power and you could use that to turn off gravity and or other evil plans....I hadn't thought thi all the way through, but in the End, I was going to make Yusei (Yes, as I want it to be protrayed as this would be the chapter after Zexal) be the bad guy b/c he would be involved in the project titan and the good character was going to be a trained airforce pilot with a good heart.....

 

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Basically in the end, it would be basically, fly dueling.....And the planes would transform when dueling so the monsters would be on the wings and etc.....Again, Not well thought out....

 

Thats the summary of Yugioh: Project Titan, which will proly not be moved through b/c I'm writing on a novel now, something that seems far more fitting and far more fun.....But I figured I'd let you know what my plot was on that to see what you thought....

 

So if you like it/hate or change it up and continue it, go ahead, but I'm far more interested in my new project....

 

Yusei learned from his father's mistakes and made him more carefull, making him the villian doesn't make any sence. And why create chaos? You need to think those motifs more through (unlike 5Ds).

 

 

*Paradox fails his mission and dies.*

 

Zone: "There is nothing more I can do, we have to destroy the Ener-D Reactors before they ruin the future."

 

Aporia: "So we are going to destroy the city and save us from this dispair?"

 

Zone: "Nope, I'm going to do as you wish and send you as 3 Italian guys back in time."

 

Aporia: "So that I can use my time manipulating powers to destroy the city?"

 

Zone: "No."

 

Aporia: "So that I can summon an army of robots and destroy the city that way."

 

Zone: "No."

 

Aporia: "How then?"

 

Zone: "First I'm going to send Antinomy back into time to help Yusei and his friends to stop you through the same card game that destroyed us all by giving him Stardust Dragon's superior and more Synchro intensive form. Then I'm going to crash our timemachine into the city and kill uss all on impact."

 

Aporia: O.O

 

Antinomy: : D

 

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Well I've finally finished the 'Twin Steam Pegasus' aka my combined signs.

 

So what do you guys think?

 

You can banish 1 FIRE and 1 WATER Winged Beast, Beast Warrior or Beast-Type monster from the field, Graveyard or your hand: Special Summon this card (from your hand or Graveyard). This card is treated as a Normal Monster while face-up on the field or in the Graveyard. While this card is face-up on the field, you can Normal Summon it to have it be treated as an Effect Monster with this effect: - Once during either players turn, you can choose and activate 1 of the following effects: - When either player Special Summons a card from thier Extra Deck: you can banish 1 WATER monster from your hand or Graveyard; negate it's Summon and destroy it. - Banish 1 FIRE monster from your hand or Graveyard: This card can attack your opponent directly.

 

It's probebly either OP or UP.

[Max Darkness]

@Max: Other then him having a speed duel, I do not see any relevance to 5ds in it on the other hend, it could be, but I'm blonde, so I guess i'm just not seeing it..

 

That's the only relevance to 5Ds in the whole of ZeXal, and it's the fact they're dueling on motorcycle-type things. They're starting from a clean slate, so in the same way 5Ds never mentioned GX, ZeXal will never mention 5Ds.

 

 

 

@Anyone to read:

Anyhow, you thought the Titan Project sounded interesting, well, as of now, I'm writing a different story, so I might as well enlighten you on my plan was....In yugioh 5ds, there was the momentum machine I think it was called, well, it gave life and power through yadada, well, the Project Titan was reverse of the machine; Kind of, a new machine in which could take away the power in order to create chaotic effects, like say, when dueling, it would absorb the power and you could use that to turn off gravity and or other evil plans....I hadn't thought thi all the way through, but in the End, I was going to make Yusei (Yes, as I want it to be protrayed as this would be the chapter after Zexal) be the bad guy b/c he would be involved in the project titan and the good character was going to be a trained airforce pilot with a good heart.....

 

Momentum was simply a perpetual motion machine, it was Old Momentum that was built on demonic power. The reason Momentum went into overdrive was because some humans are able to control Momentum with their hearts, and their desires forced it to spin faster and faster. To prevent itself from disintegrating, it created the "Machine Emperors" as a way of wiping out that which threatened it. (It was just a very advanced self-preservation system) New Momentum is based on the principle that it is much less affected by human influence, and thus should remain stable. It is implied that Momentum is still the power source in ZeXal.

 

Now, why would someone other than a supervillain want to create an inverse of Momentum, knowing that if they do, the "Earthbound Immortals" are released from their seals, and the destructive future may happen once again? And why make Yusei the villain, when he specifically states he wishes to control and advance Momentum so that he can make good on his promise to Aporia to save the future? He's also said that he would sooner die than risk Neo Domino being destroyed again.

 

 

 

Well I do think they could've expanded it some more, giving some background stories to storyless characters (like Paradox, you only know he was 1/4 survivors) or the AkizaxYusei relationship (which is one of the few shippings I support), but overal I think they did a decent job in finishing 5Ds.

 

I agree. It was a little rushed for the severity of the plot devices involved, but otherwise it wasn't too bad. It could have been a lot worse.

 

 

 

Lol, well Cpt. Corn wasn't quite a desireable charater anyways. So I don't mind.

 

Neither do I...

 

 

 

*Paradox fails his mission and dies.*

 

Zone: "There is nothing more I can do, we have to destroy the Ener-D Reactors before they ruin the future."

 

Aporia: "So we are going to destroy the city and save us from this dispair?"

 

Zone: "Nope, I'm going to do as you wish and send you as 3 Italian guys back in time."

 

Aporia: "So that I can use my time manipulating powers to destroy the city?"

 

Zone: "No."

 

Aporia: "So that I can summon an army of robots and destroy the city that way."

 

Zone: "No."

 

Aporia: "How then?"

 

Zone: "First I'm going to send Antinomy back into time to help Yusei and his friends to stop you through the same card game that destroyed us all by giving him Stardust Dragon's superior and more Synchro intensive form. Then I'm going to crash our timemachine into the city and kill uss all on impact."

 

Aporia: O.O

 

Antinomy: : D

 

Hehe.

 

 

 

Well I've finally finished the 'Twin Steam Pegasus' aka my combined signs.

 

So what do you guys think?

 

 

 

You can banish 1 FIRE and 1 WATER Winged Beast, Beast Warrior or Beast-Type monster from the field, Graveyard or your hand: Special Summon this card (from your hand or Graveyard). This card is treated as a Normal Monster while face-up on the field or in the Graveyard. While this card is face-up on the field, you can Normal Summon it to have it be treated as an Effect Monster with this effect: - Once during either players turn, you can choose and activate 1 of the following effects: - When either player Special Summons a card from thier Extra Deck: you can banish 1 WATER monster from your hand or Graveyard; negate it's Summon and destroy it. - Banish 1 FIRE monster from your hand or Graveyard: This card can attack your opponent directly.

 

 

It's probebly either OP or UP.

 

My over-riding thought is that simply, you'll never have the materials together to Special Summon it; moreover you probably would never want to use its effect. It would be more useful as "Trade-In" fodder, followed by revival through "Monster Reborn" etc., but it could be an option in certain Beast/Beast-Warrior builds. As for the main effect, I think they should be switched around. Fire allows you to 'burn away' your opponent's monsters, while Water allows you to 'flow over' them.

[Northern Sage]

Shark rides a motorcycle as well.

[Max Darkness]

Shark rides a motorcycle as well.

 

Oh yeah...

[Master White]

@Max: Well, I did say I didn't have it thought out well, and thusly I was thinking of something to explain why Yusei went bad, I was thinking of it having him working on the project Titan b/c some unkown stranger convinced it was for the good of neo domino city when it is bad and Yuesi knew it but ended up being influenced....That was my whole point.....

 

In around about way, I was going to make Yusei be the bad guy as I dispise Yusei, its proly just me, but no matter how good he looks, I want him to become bad.....I know, weird but hey, that was the whole goal....

 

But I'm done with even attempting to write it when I got a better story to write now, yet its hard b/c I can't think of a good name.....

 

Dragon Sage: I forgot, Shark does ride a motorcycle, fly's a jetpack, what else...

[Northern Sage]

ZEXAL overall has a faulty plot, but if you can look past Yuma, there are quite a few darn good characters.

[Max Darkness]

ZEXAL overall has a faulty plot, but if you can look past Yuma, there are quite a few darn good characters.

 

Indeed. However, a few are still rather two-dimensional.

[Lexadin]

I agree. It was a little rushed for the severity of the plot devices involved, but otherwise it wasn't too bad. It could have been a lot worse.

 

My over-riding thought is that simply, you'll never have the materials together to Special Summon it; moreover you probably would never want to use its effect. It would be more useful as "Trade-In" fodder, followed by revival through "Monster Reborn" etc., but it could be an option in certain Beast/Beast-Warrior builds. As for the main effect, I think they should be switched around. Fire allows you to 'burn away' your opponent's monsters, while Water allows you to 'flow over' them.

 

True.

 

I didn't really think think FIRE Beast, Beast-Warriors or Winged Beasts would be that rare. So do you think making the requirements 1 FIRE and 1 WATER monster would make it more usefull?

I didn't do that? Oops, I must've mixed them up.

[Max Darkness]

I didn't really think think FIRE Beast, Beast-Warriors or Winged Beasts would be that rare. So do you think making the requirements 1 FIRE and 1 WATER monster would make it more usefull?

I didn't do that? Oops, I must've mixed them up.

 

If you only take non-Archetype, easy to use FIRE and WATER Beasts, Beast-Warriors, and Winged Beasts you get this list:

 

Fushi No Tori

Great Angus

Manticore of Darkness

Mother Grizzly

Rhinotaurus

 

So, making it 1 FIRE and 1 WATER monster will certainly make it more summonable.

[Lexadin]

 

If you only take non-Archetype, easy to use FIRE and WATER Beasts, Beast-Warriors, and Winged Beasts you get this list:

 

Fushi No Tori

Great Angus

Manticore of Darkness

Mother Grizzly

Rhinotaurus

 

So, making it 1 FIRE and 1 WATER monster will certainly make it more summonable.

 

Just FIRE and WATER monsters it is then.

[Master White]

Well, I just found out great news, we won't have to worry about Sopa and Pipa anymore, or we'll see I should say.....

 

13 million people protested and I really did not think of that.....

 

@Lex: Still, i see that picture could do Awesome stuff to it only if I HAD MY COMPUTER....me sad :( I'm on my dads, so I'm sorry I can't edit your piture to make it look boss....