Lexadin Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Indeed. Also, since I'm looking for a Dark-Type to replace Zebstrika, which would you recommend: A Bisharp or a Krookodile? Personally I prever an Bisharp over a Krookodile. However it really depends on what you're looking for. Bisharps have access to every cutting move in game (giving it suprising fersatillity) and being a Steel/Dark type also gives you an advantige to the powerfull Psychic while resisting A LOT of moves. But it has a nasty weakness to EQ and a 4x weakness to Fighting. And it knows a Steel-Type Counter, which is nice with a Focus Band. Krookodile has a large variaty of Dragon/Ground/Dark moves, but if that covers everything you want it too? And it doesn't really benefit from being either a Ground or Dark type, but is immume to Electric and Psychic moves. But he's a tad low on the Defences and has lesser base ATK, but higher Spd then Bisharp. Personally I'd go for the Bisharp as it resist Toxic, has a Counter move and has access to Defiant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Personally I prever an Bisharp over a Krookodile. However it really depends on what you're looking for. Bisharps have access to every cutting move in game (giving it suprising fersatillity) and being a Steel/Dark type also gives you an advantige to the powerfull Psychic while resisting A LOT of moves. But it has a nasty weakness to EQ and a 4x weakness to Fighting. And it knows a Steel-Type Counter, which is nice with a Focus Band. Krookodile has a large variaty of Dragon/Ground/Dark moves, but if that covers everything you want it too? And it doesn't really benefit from being either a Ground or Dark type, but is immume to Electric and Psychic moves. But he's a tad low on the Defences and has lesser base ATK, but higher Spd then Bisharp. Personally I'd go for the Bisharp as it resist Toxic, has a Counter move and has access to Defiant. Hmm, you've given me quite a bit to think about. If I chose Bisharp, would it be worth giving it some Speed EVs (along with Defense ones) to squeeze as much out of it as possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Hmm, you've given me quite a bit to think about. If I chose Bisharp, would it be worth giving it some Speed EVs (along with Defense ones) to squeeze as much out of it as possible? I think you should be fine with Max Atk and Max Spd investments if you're going the agressive side. If you want to use it as a Wallbreaker (which it is REALLY good at) I'd give it Atk and Def. Since it's probebly going to outspeed most walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I think you should be fine with Max Atk and Max Spd investments if you're going the agressive side. If you want to use it as a Wallbreaker (which it is REALLY good at) I'd give it Atk and Def. Since it's probebly going to outspeed most walls. What's certain is max ATK EVs. However, I'm still drawn to giving it some DEF EVs since it is its second-highest stat. Maybe I'll split it 2:3 or something with Speed EVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 What's certain is max ATK EVs. However, I'm still drawn to giving it some DEF EVs since it is its second-highest stat. Maybe I'll split it 2:3 or something with Speed EVs. Just do what seems most fit to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Just do what seems most fit to you. Well, considering the closest I'll get to competitive battling is the Battle Subway, I might as well make a semi-sweeper (since I have one in my team atm anyway) with good Defense to compliment its resistances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Well, considering the closest I'll get to competitive battling is the Battle Subway, I might as well make a semi-sweeper (since I have one in my team atm anyway) with good Defense to compliment its resistances. Just make shure that (unless you're running 'Metal-Burst'/Focus Sash) you should get the heck out of the way of Fighting Types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Just make shure that (unless you're running 'Metal-Burst'/Focus Sash) you should get the heck out of the way of Fighting Types. I'll use Sigilyph as its weakness-counter then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I'll use Sigilyph as its weakness-counter then. The perfect counter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 The perfect counter! Indeed. My possible team now stands at: Samurott: Scald, Ice Beam, Aqua Tail, Aerial AceHaxorus: Dragon Claw, Assurance, Brick Break, Aerial AceSigilyph: Psychic, Ice Beam, Air Slash, Charge BeamGalvantula: Thunder, Bug Buzz, Faint Attack, Energy BallChandelure: Flamethrower, Shadow Ball, Energy Ball, PsychicBisharp: Iron Head, Brick Break, Night Slash, Aerial Ace In essence, almost all specialised in either Attack or Special Attack (except Samurott and Galvantula); and most of them either being high-ATK/Sp.ATK semi-sweepers, or just tricky to get around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Indeed. My possible team now stands at: Samurott: Scald, Ice Beam, Aqua Tail, Aerial AceHaxorus: Dragon Claw, Assurance, Brick Break, Aerial AceSigilyph: Psychic, Ice Beam, Air Slash, Charge BeamGalvantula: Thunder, Bug Buzz, Faint Attack, Energy BallChandelure: Flamethrower, Shadow Ball, Energy Ball, PsychicBisharp: Iron Head, Brick Break, Night Slash, Aerial Ace In essence, almost all specialised in either Attack or Special Attack (except Samurott and Galvantula); and most of them either being high-ATK/Sp.ATK semi-sweepers, or just tricky to get around. Looks like quite a well ballanced team. Unlike my pretty much Pure Atk Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Looks like quite a well ballanced team. Unlike my pretty much Pure Atk Team. That's something I've noticed. A large number of the 'good' Gen V Pokemon are physical attackers. There's no Gardevoir, Ninetales, or Salamence; almost all the noteable Pokemon are either physically biased or just don't learn enough Special moves to be of use in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 That's something I've noticed. A large number of the 'good' Gen V Pokemon are physical attackers. There's no Gardevoir, Ninetales, or Salamence; almost all the noteable Pokemon are either physically biased or just don't learn enough Special moves to be of use in that respect. Now that you've mentioned it, that's quite true. Well beside the Psychic Pkmn, but they are ussually high Sp.Atkrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Now that you've mentioned it, that's quite true. Well beside the Psychic Pkmn, but they are ussually high Sp.Atkrs Well, Reuniclius and Gothite... both have high Sp.Def, as does Cryogonal (which is one exception). Other than Chandelure and Galvantula, I'm finding it a struggle to think of a non-legendary non-Psychic Gen V Pokemon that is Special-orientated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Well, Reuniclius and Gothite... both have high Sp.Def, as does Cryogonal (which is one exception). Other than Chandelure and Galvantula, I'm finding it a struggle to think of a non-legendary non-Psychic Gen V Pokemon that is Special-orientated. Erm, maybe Lilligant, Zoroark (I don't count it as a Legend), Vanilluxe, and perhaps Vulcarona if you don't count it as a Legend. But it's true that Gen V kinda lacks in the Sp.Atk part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Erm, maybe Lilligant, Zoroark (I don't count it as a Legend), Vanilluxe, and perhaps Vulcarona if you don't count it as a Legend. But it's true that Gen V kinda lacks in the Sp.Atk part. So maybe a dozen overall...? It's also struck me that a large number of Gen Vs only learn very limited movepools compared to their earlier counterparts. Haxorus can only learn one Fire-Type move (Incinerate), and Samurott only has access to Bug, Dark, Flying and Ice-Type moves. In fact, I would say Chandalure has the most varied movepool in Gen V, not counting legendaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Im so glad I came into this conversation now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 So maybe a dozen overall...? It's also struck me that a large number of Gen Vs only learn very limited movepools compared to their earlier counterparts. Haxorus can only learn one Fire-Type move (Incinerate), and Samurott only has access to Bug, Dark, Flying and Ice-Type moves. In fact, I would say Chandalure has the most varied movepool in Gen V, not counting legendaries. That I wouldn't know, I do know that Gen V, as of now, has a lack of Movetutors. Which might be introduced in Grey/Ruby & Sapphire remakes? Im so glad I came into this conversation now. Do I spot sarcasm, or is my sarcas-O-meter broke again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 That I wouldn't know, I do know that Gen V, as of now, has a lack of Movetutors. Which might be introduced in Grey/Ruby & Sapphire remakes? Most likely, that's been the pattern so far. And, I'm in a pickle. I've hatched two Pawniards. One is Impish, one is Hasty. Now, I know Hasty natures reduce Defense, but the IV judge has said that its Defense IV is its highest, and it's a high number (26-30). And it's male, and I have very few hatched male Pokemon. I either take the statistically better female one, or I take the male one, which might turn out rather worse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Personally I'd go for the one with a Better nature. As genders don't really matter seeing as nobody uses Attract these days. Well beside some enoying GLs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Personally I'd go for the one with a Better nature. As genders don't really matter seeing as nobody uses Attract these days. Well beside some enoying GLs. No, I just think Bisharp looks better in design as a male. My incredibly non-commital plan is to raise both of them to about Lv.20, then use PsyPoke's IV calculator to see if there are any big differences between the two. EDIT: Turns out the Impish (good Nature) Pawniard's IVs are abyssmal; while the Hasty one's are not half-bad, especially its Defense. That might offset the Nature's effect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Did something on a whim (yay).While face-up on the field: This card is also treated as a Field Spell Card. All EARTH Monsters on the field cannot be destroyed by battle (except this card). Once per turn: You can banish 1 Field Spell Card in your Graveyard; Destroy 1 card on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Did something on a whim (yay). Ack. 2400 DEF on a Level 4 Effect Monster, with a positive effect... Not good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I thought 0 ATK would justify, but I guess not. Um, 2000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I thought 0 ATK would justify, but I guess not. Um, 2000? That would be better. Also, since myself and Lex have been discussing Pokemon teams, what's your Gen V/Unovan team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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