Lexadin Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I don't like how one-dimensional his goals are. Split people and Pokemon. Then what? Do we retreat from Unova and leave it as a Pokemon reserve? Or do we stay in places like Black City and Opelucid City and never go outside while the Pokemon roam in the Routes and caves? I would just like for his whole plan to make sense. He even admits it himself that he was taken aback by all the Pokemon he spoke to that enjoyed being with their trainers; and he must realise that without humans several Pokemon cannot become 'perfect beings', since they need humans to evolve! They can evolve on thier own, it's just harder to do so without trainers.But N's goals are 'one-dimensional' because his father (it has been confirmed, well he's at least his adoptive father) Gethsis raised him by constantly repeating the same thing. So basicly not his motifs are 'one-dimensional', N just wanted what he thought was the best thing for Pokémon, it was Gethsis who had 'one-dimensional' plans.And because of all that 'brainwashing' Gethsis did to N (he seems like quite a convincing person if you look at the reactions of the NPC's), he really thought he was doing what was right. That's why, even with those Pkmn telling him that they like being with thier trainers, he continued with his plans. The only thing N was quilty of was being a tad naive maybe. Yes, the one in which the main character dies because of 4Kids! I am starting to slowly like GX (although only while subbed). :D GX is an awesome show, glad you're starting to like it. And Subs are the only way to go (except by Bacciano! & DBZ). @Lex: So, I know you were having laptop problems, did you get it fixed or found another solution? Oh I managed to get it fixed. There where some problems with the Graphic Disk or something like that. It totaly screwed up my screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 They can evolve on thier own, it's just harder to do so without trainers. Insanely harder in the case of Happiness and Trade Evolutions, to the point I would say it was impossible for all intents and purposes. But N's goals are 'one-dimensional' because his father (it has been confirmed, well he's at least his adoptive father) Gethsis raised him by constantly repeating the same thing. So basicly not his motifs are 'one-dimensional', N just wanted what he thought was the best thing for Pokémon, it was Gethsis who had 'one-dimensional' plans.And because of all that 'brainwashing' Gethsis did to N (he seems like quite a convincing person if you look at the reactions of the NPC's), he really thought he was doing what was right. That's why, even with those Pkmn telling him that they like being with thier trainers, he continued with his plans. The only thing N was quilty of was being a tad naive maybe. He is a tragic villain, I will admit. A puppet who doesn't realise what he is. But at the same time, he is naive, and I find that intensely annoying. I don't like the idea of my ultimate rival being someone I could outwit without trying. And I don't like the fact that you have no interaction as a player in the Pokemon games, since that would give you the chance to rubbish what he's telling you. I have said though, that that would be forgiven if Ghetis was a credible villain. But he isn't. He's the standard Bond villain, and his motives make little sense. He wants to rule Unova/the World with Reshiram and Zekrom by being the only person with Pokemon. He also has the Creation Trios orbs (Adamant, Lustrous and Grevious), which he would have had to have stolen off the Platinum player, who would also have the Creation Trio itself. If Ghetis' plan had succeeded, what was to stop someone like Cynthia putting in a call to the Platinum player (who is Champion by now) and asking him to bring over an army to defeat Ghetis? :D GX is an awesome show, glad you're starting to like it. And Subs are the only way to go (except by Bacciano! & DBZ). There are some...questionable...subs out there aren't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Insanely harder in the case of Happiness and Trade Evolutions, to the point I would say it was impossible for all intents and purposes. Well I'can remember some wild Alakazams, so I presume they will have a method. He is a tragic villain, I will admit. A puppet who doesn't realise what he is. But at the same time, he is naive, and I find that intensely annoying. I don't like the idea of my ultimate rival being someone I could outwit without trying. And I don't like the fact that you have no interaction as a player in the Pokemon games, since that would give you the chance to rubbish what he's telling you. I have said though, that that would be forgiven if Ghetis was a credible villain. But he isn't. He's the standard Bond villain, and his motives make little sense. He wants to rule Unova/the World with Reshiram and Zekrom by being the only person with Pokemon. He also has the Creation Trios orbs (Adamant, Lustrous and Grevious), which he would have had to have stolen off the Platinum player, who would also have the Creation Trio itself. If Ghetis' plan had succeeded, what was to stop someone like Cynthia putting in a call to the Platinum player (who is Champion by now) and asking him to bring over an army to defeat Ghetis? Well I never really considered N as my Rival (more like a recurring trainer and then the King of the evil organisation that I have been owning since the beginning). And I don't mind him being Naive that much actually, remember beside him being (I think) 17ish he never really developed any social skills as Gethsis only let his minions & misused Pkmn near him. Hence him having the social skills and beliefs of a preschooler.I agree with the interactions missing, but isn't that the problem in every game. Beside there is A LOT less logical things in Pkmn. Like why the leader of an international mafia stops his practices because a 10-year-old beat him in a battle of Pkmn? He could just have shot you instead, then there wouldb't be any problems anymore. And Gethsis... The only thing I liked about his was his battle theme and his team (beside Buffelant). He wasn't the best villain that I have to admit. He... Didn't really think things through.Well do remember that this games is set (I'd say 5) years after the events of D/P/Pl. And Diamond doesn't seem like the most competent person out there (I didn't like Gen IV that much tbh). So much could have happened. But yes, Cynthia (who actually is borrowing Caithlin's house) could've easily stopped him. There are some...questionable...subs out there aren't there? Well it's not that the subs are bad in Bacciano! and DBZ's case, it's just that imo thier dubs are surperior to the original (which is certainly tru about Bacciano!, which was a really good anime imo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I see, so what pokemon game are you playing, as it sounds like one that is, and what is it for, nds, 3ds, ds lite, or etc? I have an old ds, the very first one that came out, and it'd still cost me 75 dollars to get it fixed, the one that can play advance games......I got it for final fantasy games...It don't have something that Ds Lite has and it has something DS lite doesn't have, and not sure what..... So, pokemon games, wish I could figure out how to build my own without modding a game cartridge, make it for the computer..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Pokémon Black/White. They are for the DS (but can also be played on the ones you mentioned).And I also still have the original DS, and mine just works excelent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Well I'can remember some wild Alakazams, so I presume they will have a method. Yes, but weren't they in Gen I's Cerulean Cave, where wild Raichu also appeared...alongside the apparently Safari Zone-exclusive Chansey? Well I never really considered N as my Rival (more like a recurring trainer and then the King of the evil organisation that I have been owning since the beginning). And I don't mind him being Naive that much actually, remember beside him being (I think) 17ish he never really developed any social skills as Gethsis only let his minions & misused Pkmn near him. Hence him having the social skills and beliefs of a preschooler. I consider him closer to a rival mainly because unlike Blue or Silver, Cheren stops challenging you after Twist Mountain; and N is the holder of the other Stone. He also pits his belief against your own, compared to the other bosses who simply view you as an annoyance to be defeated. N sees you as an anomoly, something to be completely eliminated in order for him to succeed. In some respects, he is the rival that you defeat to become Champion (like Blue). And Gethsis... The only thing I liked about his was his battle theme and his team (beside Buffelant). He wasn't the best villain that I have to admit. He... Didn't really think things through.Well do remember that this games is set (I'd say 5) years after the events of D/P/Pl. And Diamond doesn't seem like the most competent person out there (I didn't like Gen IV that much tbh). So much could have happened. But yes, Cynthia (who actually is borrowing Caithlin's house) could've easily stopped him. His Bouffelant got Close Combat-ed in my game... And yes, he didn't think things through to the end, nor consider everything involved. Plus the Shadow Triad got absolutely no development. Well it's not that the subs are bad in Bacciano! and DBZ's case, it's just that imo thier dubs are surperior to the original (which is certainly tru about Bacciano!, which was a really good anime imo). Oh right, I thought you were referring to subs like the ones you sometimes get with 4th and 5th season Yu-Gi-Oh! (DM), in yellow text; which are...dubious...at best. I see, so what pokemon game are you playing, as it sounds like one that is, and what is it for, nds, 3ds, ds lite, or etc? I have an old ds, the very first one that came out, and it'd still cost me 75 dollars to get it fixed, the one that can play advance games......I got it for final fantasy games...It don't have something that Ds Lite has and it has something DS lite doesn't have, and not sure what..... So, pokemon games, wish I could figure out how to build my own without modding a game cartridge, make it for the computer..... Black Version. Isn't that simply a case of modding an emulator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yes, but weren't they in Gen I's Cerulean Cave, where wild Raichu also appeared...alongside the apparently Safari Zone-exclusive Chansey? Yes... Ok, I get your point. I consider him closer to a rival mainly because unlike Blue or Silver, Cheren stops challenging you after Twist Mountain; and N is the holder of the other Stone. He also pits his belief against your own, compared to the other bosses who simply view you as an annoyance to be defeated. N sees you as an anomoly, something to be completely eliminated in order for him to succeed. In some respects, he is the rival that you defeat to become Champion (like Blue). Mhh, if you put it that way. He does look more like an rival then your 'actual' rivals. His Bouffelant got Close Combat-ed in my game... And yes, he didn't think things through to the end, nor consider everything involved. Plus the Shadow Triad got absolutely no development. Iron Fist boosted Hammer Arm'd in mine. True, beside knowing that apearantly Gethsis saved them. There is nothing known about them, they should get some more development. Expecially seeing as Gethsis apearantly saved them, they still obay N's commands. Oh right, I thought you were referring to subs like the ones you sometimes get with 4th and 5th season Yu-Gi-Oh! (DM), in yellow text; which are...dubious...at best. I am not familiar with those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Iron Fist boosted Hammer Arm'd in mine. You've made me think about what I used to get rid of Ghetsis...and most of it was Haxorus and Sawk just using brute strength... True, beside knowing that apearantly Gethsis saved them. There is nothing known about them, they should get some more development. Expecially seeing as Gethsis apearantly saved them, they still obay N's commands. They even have full art. It's strange how little we know about them. Ghetsis doesn't even mention them. I am not familiar with those. They are absolutely terrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 You've made me think about what I used to get rid of Ghetsis...and most of it was Haxorus and Sawk just using brute strength... I think I destroyed his Cofagrigus with my Bisharp, his Bouffelant with my Golurk, his Hydreigon was taken out by my Reshiram and/or my Archeops (can't really rememeber which one took it out), I destroyed his Seismitoad with my Serperior, I think I took out his Eelektross with my own Seismitoad and finally his Bisharp with my Seismitoad aswell. They even have full art. It's strange how little we know about them. Ghetsis doesn't even mention them. I hope they'll get a bigger role in Grey... I doubt it though. They are absolutely terrible! Glad I haven't come across them yet then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I think I destroyed his Cofagrigus with my Bisharp, his Bouffelant with my Golurk, his Hydreigon was taken out by my Reshiram and/or my Archeops (can't really rememeber which one took it out), I destroyed his Seismitoad with my Serperior, I think I took out his Eelektross with my own Seismitoad and finally his Bisharp with my Seismitoad aswell. Cofagrigus: Reshiram's Fusion Flare and Haxorus' AssuranceBouffelant: Sawk's Close CombatSeismitoad: Sigilyph's Psychic etc.Eelektross: Haxorus' Dragon ClawBisharp: Sawk's Close CombatHydreigon: Haxorus' Dragon Claw I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Cofagrigus: Reshiram's Fusion Flare and Haxorus' AssuranceBouffelant: Sawk's Close CombatSeismitoad: Sigilyph's Psychic etc.Eelektross: Haxorus' Dragon ClawBisharp: Sawk's Close CombatHydreigon: Haxorus' Dragon Claw I think. Mhh, looks pretty straight forward. So how is completing your Dex going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Mhh, looks pretty straight forward. So how is completing your Dex going? 338 so far, and collecting all the Fossils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 338 so far, and collecting all the Fossils. Thank god I had all (non-Event) Pkmn in my Platinum/Diamond. Otherwise it would've been a pain to collect them all in B/W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Thank god I had all (non-Event) Pkmn in my Platinum/Diamond. Otherwise it would've been a pain to collect them all in B/W. I don't have a second DS to use the Poke-Transfer, so I'm stuck with whatever's avaliable in Black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I don't have a second DS to use the Poke-Transfer, so I'm stuck with whatever's avaliable in Black. I only have 1 aswell. HOWEVER my lil' bro also has one, so I gues you can count that as 2... Perhaps you should ask someone if you can borrow his/her DS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I only have 1 aswell. HOWEVER my lil' bro also has one, so I gues you can count that as 2... Perhaps you should ask someone if you can borrow his/her DS? Yeah, I'm going to visit a few friends soon, and they all play, so I'll be able to get a few holes filled. What I don't understand is why the Poke-Transfer doesn't work for Gen III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yes, but weren't they in Gen I's Cerulean Cave, where wild Raichu also appeared...alongside the apparently Safari Zone-exclusive Chansey? I consider him closer to a rival mainly because unlike Blue or Silver, Cheren stops challenging you after Twist Mountain; and N is the holder of the other Stone. He also pits his belief against your own, compared to the other bosses who simply view you as an annoyance to be defeated. N sees you as an anomoly, something to be completely eliminated in order for him to succeed. In some respects, he is the rival that you defeat to become Champion (like Blue). His Bouffelant got Close Combat-ed in my game... And yes, he didn't think things through to the end, nor consider everything involved. Plus the Shadow Triad got absolutely no development. Oh right, I thought you were referring to subs like the ones you sometimes get with 4th and 5th season Yu-Gi-Oh! (DM), in yellow text; which are...dubious...at best. Black Version. Isn't that simply a case of modding an emulator? A, black version, i see.... --------- It would be if I could figure it out exactly to do scripts and make clouds and outerspace with stars and planets and stuff, yes, I'm going to have ash travel around the worlds to collect other pokemon...As they were all on earth, why not have Professor Weedwhacker(Oak) make a spaceship after Ash is done collecting all the pokemon on the planet, and find others in other planets....., might as well as it still don't make sense they would let a 10 year old boy/girl travel outside on there own.....) I'm working on my story line, but will be continued as soon as I can figure out all the mods/hacks/ and etc.... The Thing I'm interested in which would cost me probably 300 us dollars is Nintendo Ds with the pokemon game like your the pokemon and your fight....whateve that is called.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 @ Skylie: Remember that the present Pokemon world's space technology is only equivilent to our own, indeed they're slightly behind since they haven't built lunar-capable craft, orbital space stations nor reuseable spacecraft yet. So at best, they're up to early-1970s technology regarding space travel. And that the centre for aerospatial development is on Mossdeep Island in Hoenn. Plus, why choose Ash? He's incredibly weak as an example to send into space. Diamond, Gold or Black would be much better choices; mainly because they are their region's Champions and they've conquered a majority of the legendaries between them. In fact, overall, I would think Steven would be best choice, since he's an expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Sorry, I assumed they started you off with Ash in the other ones, then 'll make my own character, make it more interesting that way, and yes, I'm aware they are only in the 1970's, so Ash will be dead or really really old....I guess, well, either way, thats what I was going for...Well, I work it out some more, like I said, I'm not finished or yet have worked out any tools/stuff I might need, but part of it will have people actually flying in it...Wouldn't that be fun, it'd still be like regular pokemon, just far more Advanced, hey, now I know what to call it.... Pokemon Regions Unboun- Worldly Advances..... If you want, you could help me, its always best to have 2 or more writers, but I won't need much help on it, just the basic knowledge of pokemon of which I don't have which you do have, like what year would it be possible in pokemon for space flight.... If not, then I could make it so the character has technology to live in space and uses a pokemone to fly to other worlds which would have the technology, its all on brainstorm mode until I can figure out how to make space, stars, planets, and all that on a hack if possible..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Yeah, I'm going to visit a few friends soon, and they all play, so I'll be able to get a few holes filled. What I don't understand is why the Poke-Transfer doesn't work for Gen III. Probebly since you can use the Palpark in the Gen III games. Or did you mean why they didn't have somesort of Poké-Transfer in Gen III? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Probebly since you can use the Palpark in the Gen III games. Or did you mean why they didn't have somesort of Poké-Transfer in Gen III? No, as in why the Poke-Transfer only works with Gen IV, despite the DS being back-compatible with Gen III. It would seem like an easy copy-paste of the Gen IV PalPark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 No, as in why the Poke-Transfer only works with Gen IV, despite the DS being back-compatible with Gen III. It would seem like an easy copy-paste of the Gen IV PalPark. I think it's because the newer DSi (XL) and 3DS, don't have the GameBoy slot anymore, they probebly presumed noone still had the 'old' DS(lite)'s. At least, that's my theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I think it's because the newer DSi (XL) and 3DS, don't have the GameBoy slot anymore, they probebly presumed noone still had the 'old' DS(lite)'s. At least, that's my theory. That's what I've been thinking too. But it just makes getting Gen III Pokemon into Gen V that bit more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 That's what I've been thinking too. But it just makes getting Gen III Pokemon into Gen V that bit more difficult. That's true, but nintendo has a habit of overpromoting thier new merchandice, so I gues they didn't think that one too much through. Luckily I can breed all my pre-Gen IV Pokémon in Platinum/Diamond and send the hatchlings to Gen V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 That's true, but nintendo has a habit of overpromoting thier new merchandice, so I gues they didn't think that one too much through. Luckily I can breed all my pre-Gen IV Pokémon in Platinum/Diamond and send the hatchlings to Gen V. Indeed. Also, since I'm looking for a Dark-Type to replace Zebstrika, which would you recommend: A Bisharp or a Krookodile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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