Lexadin Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I think I'd stopped caring by that point... At least in the Fortune Cup, you had interesting characters... With some also have sort-of interesting Decks. Which reminds me, the sidequest thingy you have to do for Randsburg in WC11 makes no sence imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted November 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Which reminds me, the sidequest thingy you have to do for Randsburg in WC11 makes no sence imo. Now that you mention it... Randsburg dresses like, but is not really, a knight. Shelley dresses like, but is not really, a knight. So neither are actually knights at all, they just dress like them. So they couldn't have a 'duel of knights' like they planned anyway. Also, what's stopping Shelley from just making a Ground Deck? Her Deck's trumps are her monsters (and her really, really, really annoying first turn 'Quickdraw' + Level 3 = 'Fleur de Chevalier') and Traps, so if she just whips out the 'Speed Spells' and puts in some normal ones she'd have a Ground Deck. And you wouldn't have to duel her in Randsburg's place. The result of which duel is that you, who beat Randsburg, also beat Shelley. So you are better than both. But you don't know which of them is best in relation to each other. You're right. It makes no sense whatsoever. ...Well done WC11... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Now that you mention it... Randsburg dresses like, but is not really, a knight. Shelley dresses like, but is not really, a knight. So neither are actually knights at all, they just dress like them. So they couldn't have a 'duel of knights' like they planned anyway. Also, what's stopping Shelley from just making a Ground Deck? Her Deck's trumps are her monsters (and her really, really, really annoying first turn 'Quickdraw' + Level 3 = 'Fleur de Chevalier') and Traps, so if she just whips out the 'Speed Spells' and puts in some normal ones she'd have a Ground Deck. And you wouldn't have to duel her in Randsburg's place. The result of which duel is that you, who beat Randsburg, also beat Shelley. So you are better than both. But you don't know which of them is best in relation to each other. You're right. It makes no sense whatsoever. ...Well done WC11... And it was after I already duelled 3 times. So it didn't even help me finish those 'mini-quests' for the packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted November 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 And it was after I already duelled 3 times. So it didn't even help me finish those 'mini-quests' for the packs. Yeah. I never understood having to beat everyone three times either. I've beaten them once. I'm better than them. Gimme cards! Currently trying to make my Death and D. Summon ideas work for Exceeds... EDIT: Also am completely reworking my "Skyborne" archetype having seen the lastest round of crud Konami has filled the Duel Terminals with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Yeah. I never understood having to beat everyone three times either. I've beaten them once. I'm better than them. Gimme cards! Well, beating them in Tag Duels is going suspiciously smouth atm... Must have the only A.I with I as my Tag Partner. Currently trying to make my Death and D. Summon ideas work for Exceeds... Cause if you just overlay cards in the Grave it would be even more broken then the original Xyz's. EDIT: Also am completely reworking my "Skyborne" archetype having seen the lastest round of crud Konami has filled the Duel Terminals with. 'Duel Terminal - Ouroboros, Wicked Dragon of Destruction!!'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Well, beating them in Tag Duels is going suspiciously smouth atm... Must have the only A.I with I as my Tag Partner. What's their name? I must have them! Cause if you just overlay cards in the Grave it would be even more broken then the original Xyz's. Nothing like that. I'm simply working on Xyz Summoning from the Grave and Banished Zone. 'Duel Terminal - Ouroboros, Wicked Dragon of Destruction!!'? Oh yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 What's their name? I must have them! I'm not shure if it's just a bug, or that I've been lucky. But Lazar seems to do wonders. Nothing like that. I'm simply working on Xyz Summoning from the Grave and Banished Zone. *snaps fingers* Forgot that your Death... Archetype works like that. Oh yes... So basicly you have to change those archetypes because of the Verz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I'm not shure if it's just a bug, or that I've been lucky. But Lazar seems to do wonders. I'll try him. After all, he was relatively difficult to defeat. *snaps fingers* Forgot that your Death... Archetype works like that. It's mainly a case of working out how to work in self-destruction effects that don't allow too much abuse. So basicly you have to change those archetypes because of the Verz? It's more after looking at how powerful the new Xyzs are (Special Summoning from the Deck, Protecting themselves and destroying other things, and Summoning themselves with reduced materials), I've decided to break the "Skybornes" and "Skybounds", and in turn up the ante on their Condition Effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I'll try him. After all, he was relatively difficult to defeat. He at least seems to understand the concept of my Burn Deck. And his Anti-Synchro cards come in quite handy tbqh. It's mainly a case of working out how to work in self-destruction effects that don't allow too much abuse. Ah yes. Just like with mill these days. It's more after looking at how powerful the new Xyzs are (Special Summoning from the Deck, Protecting themselves and destroying other things, and Summoning themselves with reduced materials), I've decided to break the "Skybornes" and "Skybounds", and in turn up the ante on their Condition Effects. Mhh, perhaps that would be wise indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 He at least seems to understand the concept of my Burn Deck. And his Anti-Synchro cards come in quite handy tbqh. Against him, it was mainly a case of 'Special Summon "Jester Confit", Tribute for "Caius"', so I'm sure that'll be powerful on my side as well. Ah yes. Just like with mill these days. It's also judging which Decks will use it in light of any effects they might have in the Extra Deck, or use getting from the Extra Deck to the Grave or Banished Zone. Most Synchro Decks won't use them (full Extra Deck), but others with less of an Extra Deck could abuse them, and just throw them to gain advantage. Mhh, perhaps that would be wise indeed. Well, it's got to the point where their Condition Effect is 'Cannot be used for a Summon, except by its effect.' just to prevent them from being used for staples and semi-staples. It also means I can make them viciously fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Against him, it was mainly a case of 'Special Summon "Jester Confit", Tribute for "Caius"', so I'm sure that'll be powerful on my side as well. Well he uses a Tribute Deck aswell. So you should be fine. Just watch out when he summons 'Vanity's Fiend'. It'll slow you down quite a bit. It's also judging which Decks will use it in light of any effects they might have in the Extra Deck, or use getting from the Extra Deck to the Grave or Banished Zone. Most Synchro Decks won't use them (full Extra Deck), but others with less of an Extra Deck could abuse them, and just throw them to gain advantage. Considering (from what I've heard) everyone has a full Extra Deck, even the people who use a Burn Deck... Well at least in the high class dueling. So keep that in mind. Well, it's got to the point where their Condition Effect is 'Cannot be used for a Summon, except by its effect.' just to prevent them from being used for staples and semi-staples. It also means I can make them viciously fast. Mhh, they can Special Summon themselfs from your Deck by 'Ritual Summoning' themselfs, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Well he uses a Tribute Deck aswell. So you should be fine. Just watch out when he summons 'Vanity's Fiend'. It'll slow you down quite a bit. I'm "Monarch"-ing at the moment, so it shouldn't matter too much. And if push comes to shove, I can just Tribute it. Considering (from what I've heard) everyone has a full Extra Deck, even the people who use a Burn Deck... Well at least in the high class dueling. So keep that in mind. It would be Tier 2 Decks that would thrive on Death Xyzs. Decks like Geminis, "Ninjas" and "Wind-Ups", since they have the space in their Extra Decks, and the need for a little extra pace, which an Extra Deck effect could provide. Mhh, they can Special Summon themselfs from your Deck by 'Ritual Summoning' themselfs, right? They used to. Now, they attach the Materials they use, and place themselves on the field (bit of anti-meta never hurts). The "Skybounds" (the ones being placed) have a mix of Continuous effects, and stronger, Material-fuelled effects; usually circling unapplying themselves for your opponent's effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I'm "Monarch"-ing at the moment, so it shouldn't matter too much. And if push comes to shove, I can just Tribute it. Well then feel free to use him. It would be Tier 2 Decks that would thrive on Death Xyzs. Decks like Geminis, "Ninjas" and "Wind-Ups", since they have the space in their Extra Decks, and the need for a little extra pace, which an Extra Deck effect could provide. Mhh, makes sence. Well then go ahaid. They used to. Now, they attach the Materials they use, and place themselves on the field (bit of anti-meta never hurts). The "Skybounds" (the ones being placed) have a mix of Continuous effects, and stronger, Material-fuelled effects; usually circling unapplying themselves for your opponent's effects. So basicly Xyz's, but then ballanced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 So basicly Xyz's, but then ballanced? Not exactly. The attached monsters' Levels must still equal the Level of the placed monster, so it's like a Main Deck Synchro that acts like an Xyz. I have no idea what to call it... Vorpal Summon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Not exactly. The attached monsters' Levels must still equal the Level of the placed monster, so it's like a Main Deck Synchro that acts like an Xyz. I have no idea what to call it... Vorpal Summon? Mhh, sounds interesting. Perhaps.........Vorpal Summon sounds nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Mhh, sounds interesting. Perhaps.........Vorpal Summon sounds nice. Okay, name sorted(!) Now it's a case of making them all work together perfectly. Which is an issue since they don't use the Graveyard, so that's one type of effect locked out. EDIT: New D. Xyz to have a look at: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/269304-mini-archetype-umbrals/page__fromsearch__1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Okay, name sorted(!) Now it's a case of making them all work together perfectly. Which is an issue since they don't use the Graveyard, so that's one type of effect locked out. EDIT: New D. Xyz to have a look at: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/269304-mini-archetype-umbrals/page__fromsearch__1 Mhh, they are interesting cards Max. Though out of principle I cannot rate any Xyz's. And just checking, with the 'This card cannot be applied for your opponent's cards or card effects.' basicly means it's uneffected by anything your opponent tries to do with it. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Mhh, they are interesting cards Max. Though out of principle I cannot rate any Xyz's. And just checking, with the 'This card cannot be applied for your opponent's cards or card effects.' basicly means it's uneffected by anything your opponent tries to do with it. Right? I understand. Yeah. It stops your opponent from activating most effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Would these effects include 'Mirror Force'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Would these effects include 'Mirror Force'? Yes, because that needs to recognise an attack to activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Yes, because that needs to recognise an attack to activate. Then it's a really powerfull effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Then it's a really powerfull effect. Indeed. Hence why it's a Nomi, from the Banished Zone Rank 5. An attempt at a simple Death Monster effect: Effect: 1 DARK Monster + 1 Warrior-Type MonsterMust be Fusion Summoned from the Graveyard. During the Battle Phase: This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed. If this card battles, but does not destroy your opponent's monster: Send that monster to the Graveyard during the End Step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Indeed. Hence why it's a Nomi, from the Banished Zone Rank 5. An attempt at a simple Death Monster effect: Effect: 1 DARK Monster + 1 Warrior-Type MonsterMust be Fusion Summoned from the Graveyard. During the Battle Phase: This card's ATK and DEF cannot be changed. If this card battles, but does not destroy your opponent's monster: Send that monster to the Graveyard during the End Step. I know. Mhh, seems like a decent card. Considering its conditions that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Mhh, seems like a decent card. Considering its conditions that is. Thoughts? Because you seem to have some reservations about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Thoughts? Because you seem to have some reservations about it. Nah, it's fine as it is. It's just that I have a slight dislike to the 'Death Summon' archetype ever since they beat Lex's 'Worms'. Even with them no longer be my favs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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