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@Lex and Max: So, in the Newer games, the elite four is a lot easier then the R/B/ and yellow....Well, thats nice to know.....

 

All the modern games are easier than R/B/Y, since those come from the era when all games were viciously difficult, and proud of it.

 

 

@Lex: Ah, thank you.....I'm wondering, would plasma be good for a new "type". I'm trying to hack a pokemon game and I'm going to need 1 new "Type" and plenty of new pokemon.....If I can get this all to work, as its already turning out to be a Donkey's D***......ugh...

 

Not really. The only thing that comes to mind would be 'Light', since almost everything else in the world has been covered by the current 17 Types.

 

 

@Lex: Unless you are talking about human anatomy, then it would be different, as we have plasma in our bodies......

 

'Plasma' is an ionised gas (a gas in which all the atoms have lost their electrons) formed under very high temperatures and electrical potential. 'Blood Plasma' is an electrochemical mixture that provides a solvent for blood.

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@Max: Yea, i was telling Lex that i was reffereing to blood plasma and not the one made by electricity......Boh gave me good pokemon types anyhow, but thanks for telling me converse then wkia about blood plasma......Wiki helps in very little ways, its not funny......

 

Also, what type would "Skeleton", "Human" and "Blood" be under? Seriously, if you say water I'll punch you JK.....

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All the modern games are easier than R/B/Y, since those come from the era when all games were viciously difficult, and proud of it.

 

I gues that's true. I've never played R/B/Y so I wouldn't know.

 

Not really. The only thing that comes to mind would be 'Light', since almost everything else in the world has been covered by the current 17 Types.

 

I agree with Max in that.

 

Also, what type would "Skeleton", "Human" and "Blood" be under? Seriously, if you say water I'll punch you JK.....

 

Skeleton: Rock (fossils) and Ghost.

 

Human: Can be any type. But mostly Fighting and Psychic.

 

Blood: You do know this is Pokémon we are talking about? Anywho I'd say Ghost or Dark.

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@Lex:

All I'm saying is that pokemon company will probably have 1 new type to come out so they can make more pokemon, I'm sure.....

 

All I want is to be able to cover these pokemon of my idea......

 

Besides, the fossils can be rock, but there is no pokemon type except fighting which I hate, it needs to be reworded so it covers more IMO......Too specific b/c everyone refers to fighting pokemon as all the rock ones, like Machoke, Geodude, Aerodactyl, and etc.....IMO, it should be called "Fossils", thats all.......Then it could cover any pokemon that looks old, wicked, legendary, and etc......But then Machoke, machop, Geodude, and others would need something new......Hence the term "Rock" would come in.....its just my opinion, nothing more.......

 

All I'm saying is, they need to broaden it more, I'm sure you all are open minded and like the way it is, but tell you the truth, I really don't think some Pokemon fit in the "Type Bracket" they have them in........

 

So, hence why when I make my Rom, I want it more Broad, b/c I'll have new types of pokemon.....

 

Meaning of Fossils from Wiki:

 

Fossils (from Latin fossus, literally "having been dug up") are the preserved remains or traces of animals (also known as zoolites), plants, and other organisms from the remote past. The totality of fossils, both discovered and undiscovered, and their placement in fossiliferous (fossil-containing) rock formations and sedimentary layers (strata) is known as the fossil record.

 

So, yea, it could be a "fighting ghost" as a skeleton pokemon, but really, people want new, and what's the best way to give new is to have new types and new pokemon.....

 

Yea, fossils can be rock, but they are also preserved bones, some which found real life organism's preserved in sap, meaning the skin to, so really, fossils can cover lots.......It just wouldn't cover pokemon that be considered fighting, hence leaving it there is the best way I think......

 

So, all i was going to add was the type "Fossil" and its weakness of course could be like Fighting, Grass, Water, Fire, and lts of others.....So, really, its not changing anything but the new pokemon I'm adding.....

 

@Lex: (About Blood Pokemon) Well, yea, but hey, why not, they take real life animals and use that as there pokemon anyhow......

 

Seriosly, Ekans and Arbok = Certain types of Snaker

All Bird Pokemon, like Farfetch'd and Pidgey, and the Owl Pokemon are rip off creatures from real life birds.....

Aerodactyl=Destinct Dino-Bird.....

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I gues that's true. I've never played R/B/Y so I wouldn't know.

 

Here's a little comparison between Gen I and IV.

 

Red/Blue

 

First Gym:

Geodude Lv.12

Onix Lv.14

 

Possible Team (All Lv.14):

Squirtle (Tackle, Tail Whip, Bubble)

Pidgey (Gust, Sand-Attack, Quick Attack)

Rattata (Tackle, Tail Whip, Quick Attack, Hyper Fang)

Butterfree (Tackle, String Shot, Confusion)

Pikachu (Thundershock, Growl, Thunder Wave)

Nidoran (m) (Leer, Tackle, Horn Attack, Poison Sting)

 

You only have one Pokemon that has a super-effective move (Bubble), and it's only Power 20. Otherwise, you have one Pokemon with a normal effective move (Confusion), which is weak to the Gym Leader's type. The other four all have not-very-effective, or uneffective moves and some are weak to the Rock-Type.

 

 

Diamond/Pearl

 

First Gym:

Geodude Lv.12

Onix Lv.12

Cranidos Lv.14

 

Possible Team (All Lv.14):

Piplup (Pound, Growl, Bubble, Water Sport)

Staravia (Tackle, Growl, Quick Attack, Wing Attack)

Shinx (Tackle, Leer, Charge, Spark)

Zubat (Leech Life, Supersonic, Astonish, Bite)

Psyduck (Scratch, Tail Whip, Disable, Water Gun)

Machop (Low Kick, Leer, Focus Energy, Karate Chop)

 

Now you have three Pokemon that have super-effective moves, Power 20, 40 and 50. You also have an evolved Pokemon, which has a stat advantage, despite the lack of offensive moves. Shinx can attack Cranidos with Power 65, while Zubat has the now Dark-Type Bite, along with Supersonic and Astonish. Machop also has Low Kick, which powers up with heavier opponents, something all of Roark's Pokemon are.

 

Notice also that all six Pokemon have four moves, compared to only two in Red/Blue. Another factor is that the Gym Leader's highest Level monster is now a standard Basic Pokemon, compared to the high-stats-for-its-Level Onix. One final change in difficulty is the double fact that your Pokemon can carry items (such as HP-restorers) and you can bring items in from a game that is more complete, like TMs. In that case, your team could look something like this:

 

Piplup (Water Pulse, Ice Beam, Brick Break, Aerial Ace)

Staravia (Aerial Ace, Quick Attack, Steel Wing, U-Turn)

Shinx (Spark, Shock Wave, Iron Tail, Strength)

Zubat (Sludge Bomb, Giga Drain, Aerial Ace, Steel Wing)

Psyduck (Brine, Psychic, Ice Beam, Shadow Claw)

Machop (Brick Break, Rock Slide, Poison Jab, Earthquake)

 

It's not just the fact that Pokemon learn more moves. It's the fact that you, as the player, have a huge number more options as to what your Pokemon learn, and what they can do in battle.

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@Max: Did you know you can catch Mew in R\B\ and Yellow? It is, and I use to do it where I had a team of Mew's raised to level 80 it took me a long while b/c I did it on yellow and I didn't want to cheat, I did for the sake of Mew, my all time fav. pokemon.....I hated when the elite four froze him or burned him though.......Now I'm actually collecting all the pokemon, all I need is tangela to finish it.....

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@Max: Did you know you can catch Mew in R\B\ and Yellow?

 

Yes. AR, GS or the three versions of the Mew Glitch. I only used the in-programme glitches since that did the least long-term damage to the game files. Once Gen II was out, I used it again to get a Mew into Gold, Silver and Crystal. In the Gens after that, it was up to PokeSav to make Event Mews and transfer them in.

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@Max: Yea, I do the Mew Glitch, then recently leearn the 3rd variation, where you can catch all the pokemon that way without trading, and believe it or not, I did it.......:D I say though, it was hard b/c I was running out of people to do the glitch....I started using people inside the cave..........

 

I don't want to hurt my pokemon yellow game, so i don't use gameshark cheats as that seems the fastest way to hurt it....

 

Also, I found out, that the duplication cheat will work on 3 of the missingo's that actually allow the game to keep going, b/c apparently it using data already on the game as I think regular missingo is a graphic mess-up in the game.......

 

The 3 missingno's that work for me is the fossil or ghost form ones. I tried it before I did the Mew glitch....

 

I get bored, okay......I played Pokemon Yellow over and over up to 20 times, so I can say I did a lot of other things to make it fun and easier or harder depending on what I want it to do...Dad is amazed and I am amazed the we still have it let alone it and my gbc works......

 

Did you know if you collect 150 pokemon, except one, lets say you have mew, it counts that it is completed.....when it isn't......

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Dad's Gameboy Pocket=Very Good, stored away, works, but out of the package and a little use on it.

My Gameboy Pocket=Got flushed b/c my cousin was trying to wash it for me :(

GBC=Almost half destroyed but everything works and games are great working

Dad's GBC=Almost mint condition, buttons down, and etc.

My Gameboy SP: Almost Great condition, top buttons don't work

My DS, the original very first one ever come in stores @175 dollars-Saved up for it=top buttons don't work and screen scratched.

 

So in other word's, I own stuff, but not in the best condition, and they all still work, in my amazement, except my gamboy pocket of course, that really peod me off, I knew then all she was trying to do was help, but it was the end...It was red.

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@White: I see no reason to add any new types to Pkmn exept, as Max suggested, Light. I understand your point of view. But with the current types. You can pretty much create anything. Except for light that is.

 

As for the blood part, do remember that the game is directed to children of the age 3+/6+ and needs to go through sensoring America first. And seeing as not a single drop of blood has been shed in Pkmn since the 1st Pkmn game, I highly doubt they will create an entire type around it. I'd say Ghost/Water/Dark or something in that direction should fill that bil.

 

@Max: I'm pretty sure you can also catch a Mankey next to Pewter City. So that would be 2 Pkmn. Also, I agree that some new moves have made it easier to win. However do remember that the opponent also can use those moves. Also, Roark has 3 Pkmn now. Though Onix is not his ace, Cranidos, only a single type making it more resistant against both Water and Grass moves then Ground/Rock's, also. Onix has high stats, in Def. Making him a decent Wall. Though when poisoned, it'll fall like everything else. Cranidos is a Cannon. Hitting hard. Now you might think switching might help. Roark's Pkmn also can use Stealth Rock, a move that hurts you everytime you switch in. Also, though Zubat, Staravia and Shinx might have some uses. Their typing brings them to a severe disadvantige against his Rock types. And Cranidos can also use a Psychic move (Zen Headbutt) a 80 Power move that can also flinch. Which would destroy both Machop and Zubat.

Leaving you with only 2 usable Pkmn.

As for the hold items, the only one you get that you can actually would be an Oran Berry, which the leaders Cranidos also carries.

 

Therefor I find that that if there was difficoulty change through the generations, it was only a very minor one. If not one that increased the difficoulty. Also, it's recommendable that one would train the Pkmn that's effective against the next gym more then the other. Otherwise it would just be a waste of time. Though I'm not saying that it should be the only one trained, I'm just saying it's a smarter move.

 

Btw. My lil bro beat Brock in Yellow with a Pikachu using Quick Attack (A LOT).

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@Lex: Well, yea, but I don't think light would work b/c light is created from the sun, or other sources, which includes electricity, so you could say Zapdos and other electric type pokemon are light, and that IMO means that electric is a suitable fit as Light wouldn't cover them all.......

 

Well, yea, I understand, but this is a Rom Hack you know, meaning that not little 6 year olds are going to be playing it unless the illegal downloaders off the internet put it on a GBC game and sold it as yellow or something.......

 

Truly, I really don't think a 6 year old has the knowledge to download a Rom Hack and Download a VBA without help. I'm sure they could, but really, its just a fan thing.....

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@Max: I'm pretty sure you can also catch a Mankey next to Pewter City. So that would be 2 Pkmn.

 

Mankey can only be caught in Yellow (you're thinking of the route that leads to the Pokemon League), so you wouldn't have Squirtle or Bulbasaur in its place; in the other games, the only things there are Pidgey and the Nidorans (and they didn't learn Double Kick until Yellow).

 

 

Also, I agree that some new moves have made it easier to win. However do remember that the opponent also can use those moves. Also, Roark has 3 Pkmn now. Though Onix is not his ace, Cranidos, only a single type making it more resistant against both Water and Grass moves then Ground/Rock's, also. Onix has high stats, in Def. Making him a decent Wall. Though when poisoned, it'll fall like everything else. Cranidos is a Cannon. Hitting hard. Now you might think switching might help. Roark's Pkmn also can use Stealth Rock, a move that hurts you everytime you switch in. Also, though Zubat, Staravia and Shinx might have some uses. Their typing brings them to a severe disadvantige against his Rock types. And Cranidos can also use a Psychic move (Zen Headbutt) a 80 Power move that can also flinch. Which would destroy both Machop and Zubat. Leaving you with only 2 usable Pkmn. As for the hold items, the only one you get that you can actually would be an Oran Berry, which the leaders Cranidos also carries.

 

Cranidos is still weak to Water and Grass, and its very low Def. and Sp.Def. means it's easy prey for any Pokemon that can out-run it (and that's not difficult). Roark's Cranidos only knows Headbutt, Pursuit and Leer, so it's no real threat move-wise except for Headbutt. And only Roark's Geodude and Onix actually know Stealth Rock, so if you can get rid of them quickly, you're safe. Also, all three of Roark's Pokemon don't hold any items, so no chance of any of them bringing themselves back from the brink. The fact that he doesn't use any of the options open to him means that the player has an even greater advantage than in the first games, where brute strength and super-effectiveness were your only ways to victory.

 

 

 

Therefor I find that that if there was difficoulty change through the generations, it was only a very minor one. If not one that increased the difficoulty. Also, it's recommendable that one would train the Pkmn that's effective against the next gym more then the other. Otherwise it would just be a waste of time. Though I'm not saying that it should be the only one trained, I'm just saying it's a smarter move.

 

The other big change is the variety of Pokemon available for your first Gym battle. In the first Generation, two in the team are Normal, and know only Normal-Type moves. Other than that, you have a Bug, an Electric and a Poison-Type; only Electric is a good offensive Type. Meanwhile, in Generation IV, you have two Water-Types, a pair of Flying-Types, an Electric and a Fighting-Type, all being good attacking Types. And all learn a much wider range of moves avaliable to them. That's my main point: You have a lot more options when it comes to battling.

 

Going back to Zubat/Golbat, here's what a fully-trained Golbat could know in Red/Blue:

 

Golbat Lv.100 (R/B/Y): Wing Attack (Pwr. 35), Mega Drain, Confuse Ray, Bite

 

Whereas in D/P/Pt, it could have the same moveset as the example Zubat, along with one of the Wise Glasses, Muscle Band, or Expert Belt.

 

 

 

Btw. My lil bro beat Brock in Yellow with a Pikachu using Quick Attack (A LOT).

 

Wow. He's...determined...

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@Max: Honestly I still think that if there was a decrease in difficouldty in Pkmn, it's minimal.

 

But I'll give you this, B/W was a lot easier then R/S/E and D/P/Pl/SS/HG. I hope they'll do something about that in 'Grey'.

 

Yes he has a habit of not giving up.

 

Maybe I didn't explain it very well.

 

Really?

 

I guessed...

 

Also, currently working on an ? ATK card that plays around with a few Equip rulings. Watch this space.

 

EDIT: A couple of stranger things:

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Effect: When a monster is sent to the Graveyard: Send this card (from your hand or side of the field) to that monster's controller's Graveyard. While this card is in that player's Graveyard: That monster cannot be used.

 

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Effect: Can only be Special Summoned (from the Graveyard) by sending 1 Tuner Monster to the Graveyard, and placing 1 non-Tuner monster in an unoccupied Spell & Trap Card Zone whose total Levels equal 9. When this card is first Special Summoned: Equip that non-Tuner Monster to this card. This card gains ATK and DEF equal to the equipped monster's ATK and DEF, and can activate the effect(s) of the monsters used to Special Summon it once. When this card is banished: Banish the equipped monster to your Banished Zone. When this card returns to the field from the Banished Zone: Equip the previously equipped monster to this card (from your Banished Zone).

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@Lexadin: Well, I hope your lil bro keeps that attitude, thats a good attitiude during work, as long as it turns into some sort of good "I'm not giving up attitude" meaning like working........I learned the "not giving

 

Also, well, yea, I wasn't really going to change all the types, I was just merely thinking of adding 1, I'm not even positive on how to even to do it. So, if I can't make it work or get it to work, then I probably leave them as is......

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@Max: Probebly.

 

Yes, they give you way too much advice imo. The only real difficoulty is imo Gethis' Hydreigon.

 

I love the 1st card. Seems like a very usefull card, just not against "Chaos"/DARK Decks.

 

For a Synchro, I quite like this card. Just use a "Beast King Barbaros" or another high Power card and it's a beatstick that's able to return when Banished. And give it a "Cyber Valley" and it's an excelent source of cards. Though you'll need a high/low leveled Tuner to do so, it has many potentials.

 

@White: Eh, it's there with waves. Ussually in games.

 

K, I'll hear from you how it worked.

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@Max: Probebly.

 

Yes, they give you way too much advice imo. The only real difficoulty is imo Gethis' Hydreigon.

 

I remember the catching Pokemon advice they gave you in Gen I. A Lv.5 Weedle with full health appears, and the Old Man simply throws one Poke Ball to catch it. He then goes on to say that it's probably best to lower its health before trying that...

 

 

I love the 1st card. Seems like a very usefull card, just not against "Chaos"/DARK Decks.

 

I think I might change it to 'Cannot be applied for other cards', since that would provide a stronger lockdown.

 

 

For a Synchro, I quite like this card. Just use a "Beast King Barbaros" or another high Power card and it's a beatstick that's able to return when Banished. And give it a "Cyber Valley" and it's an excelent source of cards. Though you'll need a high/low leveled Tuner to do so, it has many potentials.

 

Glad you like it.

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I remember the catching Pokemon advice they gave you in Gen I. A Lv.5 Weedle with full health appears, and the Old Man simply throws one Poke Ball to catch it. He then goes on to say that it's probably best to lower its health before trying that...

 

Yeah, that was epic... Though I saw it in FR/LG aka Gen III.

 

I think I might change it to 'Cannot be applied for other cards', since that would provide a stronger lockdown.

 

That would make it a more reliable card.

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@Max: That is in red and blue I'd think, but to fix the missingno old man glitch in yellow, they changed it to a rattata and a different saying if I could remember....Thats in Pokemon Yellow Special Pikachu Edition anyhow......

 

Yes, he fails to catch a Rattata in Yellow... Some master trainer he turned out to be...

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