Xand Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 I don't buy structure decks, i see them being in my mind "Worthless boxes full of cards that are made out of fake cardboard".....Sorry, its just my opinion, I'd rather buy the cards I want online or try to pull them out of the booster. hatever I think will be rare...Which I was even amazed I pulled the 50 dollar Trishula out of a pack for 20 dollars, I'm happy with that decision I made... @Max: I was wondering if you could list cards in the rarity of the rarest to the non-rarest all the way from the 1st pack to the end, if you can. I'd appreciate it. List Form. Synchro's FusionsUltraSecretSuperRareCommonIf you can't, its alright. My collection is after all the rarest cards, i don't care if I have the deck built or not, I kinda stopped in RL, its about 2 years since I played in RL. A few months online with you and Lex, but I stink, so I'm just giving up, its not the appropriate thing to do, but hey, we are not anime characters, get free food and play cards all day. Hmm..so u would rather collect rare cards than the norm...as for structure decks i kinda agree...well thats cause they made it kinda boring where everyone can have the same cards as you see in the show. I still think it would have been better if they came out with a multiple amount of cards that were all different...it would make the rl version way better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 @Lex: What are you talking about, new show, or made up fan show? Well it's basicly the English voice actors of Yugi (Dan Green) and that of Yusei (forgot his name) dueling. It's because Fairies only had one other Tuner, "Trust Guardian", and that could only be used for Level 7 or higher Summons. So it was useful, but a little restrictive. But still, putting it into a Structure Deck without Synchro's is a bit of a tease tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 But still, putting it into a Structure Deck without Synchro's is a bit of a tease tbh. Maybe, but the fact it's a Tuner is an aside to the fact it is the main searcher of the "Agents". It just happened to fit what was needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Oh, so something like "LSD" being a Tuner was just for being a plotdevice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Oh, so something like "LSD" being a Tuner was just for being a plotdevice? Exactly. Perhaps they planned to use it in the anime, but that was scrapped, while the card itself was kept as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 They probebly scrapped it because the Deck was ACTUALLY USABLE. In the contrary to most of the characters' Decks.That or they where just being random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 They probebly scrapped it because the Deck was ACTUALLY USABLE. In the contrary to most of the characters' Decks.That or they where just being random. It's a possibility that Team Unicorn were originally 'Team Angel' or something and used RFP Fairy Decks (since their Beast Decks use a lot of RFP cards); this was then written out in favour of the Beast Mill. But you're right. It might be the fact they wrote it a little and by the end of the fourth turn were saying, "Yusei has to lose at this point! There is no way to make it so that he wins!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 That's actually the same with Team Unicorn, he only won because his opponent's was a moron he 'tricked' his opponent into attack. But seriously, I won the duel against Team Unicorn with 1 of thier Synchros. How owning is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 That's actually the same with Team Unicorn, he only won because his opponent's was a moron he 'tricked' his opponent into attack. But seriously, I won the duel against Team Unicorn with 1 of thier Synchros. How owning is that? "Ooh, if I end my turn, we'll win and have a chance at winning the greatest tournament the world has ever seen...""If you attack, you'll get some perverse pleasure out of it...!""ATTACK!" That's pretty owning; but I managed to RFP all three of their "Corn" monsters, which was satisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 His stupidity still amazes me. That was quite nice. I might've been lucky, but my opponent didn't even manage to Summon 1 of their "corns", well beside that 1 that was already on the field. Honestly, it suprises me how powerfull Zombie Chaos Decks are. Strange that noone in the game uses them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 His stupidity still amazes me. If it were me, the conversation would go something like this: Yusei: "In this duel, we've both been forced to our limits, and you've discovered a side to dueling you didn't even realise existed."Me: "You're right. I end my turn!"Yusei: "What?! You're going to make me lose on a technicality?!"Me: "It's as legitimate a victory condition as any other. We win!" That was quite nice. I might've been lucky, but my opponent didn't even manage to Summon 1 of their "corns", well beside that 1 that was already on the field. "Thunder Unicorn" got "Dimensional Prison"-ed, and "Voltic Bicorn" and "Lightning Tricorn" were both Summoned into "Bottomless Trap Hole"... Honestly, it suprises me how powerfull Zombie Chaos Decks are. Strange that noone in the game uses them. I hadn't thought of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 If it were me, the conversation would go something like this: Yusei: "In this duel, we've both been forced to our limits, and you've discovered a side to dueling you didn't even realise existed."Me: "You're right. I end my turn!"Yusei: "What?! You're going to make me lose on a technicality?!"Me: "It's as legitimate a victory condition as any other. We win!" Lol, same with me. "Thunder Unicorn" got "Dimensional Prison"-ed, and "Voltic Bicorn" and "Lightning Tricorn" were both Summoned into "Bottomless Trap Hole"... Nice, you must've gotten lucky to have them ready on the field though. I hadn't thought of that. Yeah, it was the 1st thing that crossed my mind after I got the good Zombie Structure Deck. And when I got a "DAD" & "Chaos Sorcerer" things just fell into place.That and I couldn't get any good "Worm" or "GB" cards for some reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Lol, same with me. The 'technicality' part is from the English dub. Obviously 4Kids (or Yusei) doesn't believe in alternate win conditions... Nice, you must've gotten lucky to have them ready on the field though. My draws were quite lucky. First turn against "Wisel"; drew "Dimensional Prison" and "Dark Bribe". :) Yeah, it was the 1st thing that crossed my mind after I got the good Zombie Structure Deck. And when I got a "DAD" & "Chaos Sorcerer" things just fell into place.That and I couldn't get any good "Worm" or "GB" cards for some reasons. That's what I hate so much about YGO games: They assume you want to collect the cards like in real life. No western gamer wants that! They want to have everything at their disposal...as in, NOT what they have in real-life(!)...so they can build the best Deck they can without spending £1000 on it and having to go to weekly tournaments costing £10 just to improve! When you look at it, £30 for the game, over 100 opponents, and 6000 cards seems like a real bargin... And you're right; they only allow you access to the 'Hidden Arsenals' and late "GX" boosters right at the end of the game! Why?! Are they scared we might build a particularly lethal "Venom" Deck if we're given 'Tactical Evolution'?! Plus the cards you're given in-game are worthless. Several Commons (from a set you bought the last time you saved), and maybe a couple of Rares you can't use. "Oh, thank you very much for "Neo-Spacian Air Hummingbird" and "Synchro Blast Wave"! I'm sure they'll work perfectly with my "Gladiator Beasts"(!)" And the Prize Cards idea. A great idea in all but one aspect. Unlike every other memory game in existance; they DON'T ALLOW YOU TO SEE THE CARDS BEFOREHAND!! Meaning of course, that it's pure luck if you get one or two pairs, or nothing at all! That's not the point of a memory game! They might have called it 'Random Chance', since that's basically what it is! I could go on...but it's late so I'll hold myself back for everyone's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Hmm..so u would rather collect rare cards than the norm...as for structure decks i kinda agree...well thats cause they made it kinda boring where everyone can have the same cards as you see in the show. I still think it would have been better if they came out with a multiple amount of cards that were all different...it would make the rl version way better... Well, kind of, If I ever get rich enough, win the lotto, then I might get investive and buy 2 decks I like.....Ancient Gear Deck and Ice Barrier Deck. That's Kind of why I like Trishula at the moment, it works with the Ice Barrier's, kind of...but I'm headed off to town, ttyl all of you later... @Max: Well, structure decks can be worth while I guess, but really, that is the only usefulness I see in them, and I'm broke anyhow, I rarely buy cards unless I'm sure I'll get what I'm looking for, now.... @Lex: Oh, well, okay, the voice actors are dueling, that's, just strange... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 The 'technicality' part is from the English dub. Obviously 4Kids (or Yusei) doesn't believe in alternate win conditions... I think both. My draws were quite lucky. First turn against "Wisel"; drew "Dimensional Prison" and "Dark Bribe". :) I have to admit that mine where lucky aswell. I was able to set at least 1 of my "BTH" in every duel. And getting "DAD" and/or "Chaos Sorcerer" in almost every match aswell. And that's special seeing as I only had 1 of both most of the time. That's what I hate so much about YGO games: They assume you want to collect the cards like in real life. No western gamer wants that! They want to have everything at their disposal...as in, NOT what they have in real-life(!)...so they can build the best Deck they can without spending £1000 on it and having to go to weekly tournaments costing £10 just to improve! When you look at it, £30 for the game, over 100 opponents, and 6000 cards seems like a real bargin... And you're right; they only allow you access to the 'Hidden Arsenals' and late "GX" boosters right at the end of the game! Why?! Are they scared we might build a particularly lethal "Venom" Deck if we're given 'Tactical Evolution'?! Exactly, if I had everything to my disposal from the beginning. I would've build a "Worm" Ground Deck (and perhaps also a Speed Deck, but I doubt it'll work without "FF") and a "GB" Speed Deck instead of a cr@p Base Deck/Speed Deck & a Chaos Zombie Base/Speed Deck. Plus the cards you're given in-game are worthless. Several Commons (from a set you bought the last time you saved), and maybe a couple of Rares you can't use. "Oh, thank you very much for "Neo-Spacian Air Hummingbird" and "Synchro Blast Wave"! I'm sure they'll work perfectly with my "Gladiator Beasts"(!)" And the Prize Cards idea. A great idea in all but one aspect. Unlike every other memory game in existance; they DON'T ALLOW YOU TO SEE THE CARDS BEFOREHAND!! Meaning of course, that it's pure luck if you get one or two pairs, or nothing at all! That's not the point of a memory game! They might have called it 'Random Chance', since that's basically what it is! I could go on...but it's late so I'll hold myself back for everyone's sake. Actually I did got a "Dark Bribe" from someone & a "Worm Zero" from the 'memory' game. So I didn't mind those that much. Oh, well, okay, the voice actors are dueling, that's, just strange... Well they use thier voices. So it sounds somewhat awesome.[spoiler=Spoiler]And Yugi wins! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Went out and bought a pack of 'Gold Series 4' today, and a quad of 'Phantom Darkness'. The 'Gold' booster yielded probably the least-valuable Gold Rares in the set ("Morphing Jar", "Pot of Avarice" and "Toon Table of Contents"); whereas karma clearly decided to help me out with the 'Phantom Darkness' ones since they gave me "Fires of Doomsday", "Destiny Hero - Dunker", "Dark Eruption", "Darknight Parshath" and "Darklord Zerato"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Huh, they kinda ballance each other out then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Huh, they kinda ballance each other out then. Exactly. Average day all round(!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Lol, that's... Just the same as with me. I really need to start doing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I forgot about the fact I had ordered "Meklord Astro Mekanikle" (or as it should be known 'Divine Machine Emperor Infinity Cubic'). I didn't realise it was a Level 12, or a lot more rubbish than in the anime. I thought it would at least keep its destruction-negation effect, considering it's a b*tch to summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 It doesnt have that? What kind of Bullcr@p is that?! Nerving, ok, but thats like paralizing a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 It doesnt have that? What kind of Bullcr@p is that?! Nerving, ok, but thats like paralizing a card. If you're interested, its burn effect has been moved to the Standby Phase, and prevents you from battling if you use it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 *smashed head against deck* WHY!!!! I personally though it was perfectly ballanced as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 *smashed head against deck* WHY!!!! Because that's how JUMP cards are made! You take the original effect...and cut it down by more than half. So you end up with a hollow shell of a card that now makes no sense to use. It's the same with "Beast Machine King Barbaros Ur". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Max, do you have any Fiend-Type monster decks? I can't find my list for my old one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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