Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I fear that n00bs will abuse Xyz monsters like they do with Synchros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I like making them, which I do use them on YVD every so often. But, I will not use the real ones. And I wouldn't be surprised. The higher level monsters are nearly useless sometimes in the new Meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I wonder how many n00bs will make a Yuma Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Who cares? They would all lose in the end, anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Who cares? They would all lose in the end, anyways. Still, the trend. Yugi Deck, Jaiden Deck, Yusei Deck, and now Yuma Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I get what you are saying, but it wouldn't work out that well. One day, Yuma will have more than 15 cards in his Extra Deck. Can you bold the OCG problems I have in this? I am practicing. This card is also treated as a Spellcaster-Type monster. Once per turn: Decrease your Life Points by 1000; Destroy one card on the field. If you have no cards in your hand; Select 1 card in our opponent's hand; Destroy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 This card is also treated as a Spellcaster-Type monster. Once per turn: ??? Decrease your Life Points by 1000; Destroy one card on the field. If you have no cards in your hand; Select 1 card in our opponent's hand; Destroy it. There you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Okay thank you!I know there was something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I'm heading off for the night. See ya in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I don't know any Main Deck Level 10+ LIGHT monsters off the top of my head... It's similar to my connection with the main characters; living in the same flat block at Kotori, so we sort-of know each other. Interesting. Broken as hell(!), but interesting. According to the wiki, there are 6 TCG Cards worthy of my attention and 1 Anime excusive.TCG: Both "Arcana Force Ex" cards, all of Anubis' "Sphinxes" and "Hamon".Anime exclusive: "Candelato, the Beast of Light" Mhh, interesting coincidence. I gues noone wants to be too close to Yuma. Well it does need 2 "Worm Kings/Queens" to be summoned, but I might weaken it's effect a bit. ...Probably need to edit that... Lol. I don't know if it will be suitable, but hey. Background: Searching for Duelist Pack singles to complete my collection, I got to Yusei 1, specifically "Synchro Strike". Now, in the sponsored links, there was an ad saying 'Great Deals on Synchro Cards' or something similar. Since I had found YGOMint from a similar link, I thought I'd give it a go. Turns out it just led to a page with links to eBay and the like, that happened to have 'Synchro' in their title. But one item caught my eye. It was a lot titled 'Jack Atlas Deck *Just Add Synchros!*'. So I thought I would check it out, see if there was anything going cheap. Looking through the Deck-list, I decided to dismantle it, exposing the ignorance of either the person who was selling it or those who would buy it... (For Euros, increase the prices by about 1.1 times, and for dollars 1.6) [spoiler=And this is what resulted]I don't know why, but this eBay lot that attempts to copy Jack Atlas' Deck (under the title ‘Jack Atlas Deck *Just Add Synchros!*’) is making me laugh (and shout) so much. I'll dismember it slowly. Monsters: Vice Dragon (Gold Rare)Lancer Archfiend (Rare)Creation Resonator (Rare)Synchro MagnetFlare Resonator x 2Power InvaderMagic Hole Golem x 2Attack GainerSynchro SoldierTwin-Shield DefenderArchfiend Interceptor x 2Power SupplierSword Master x 2Extra VeilerVice BerserkerStronghold GuardianEarthquake Giant x 2Level Eater Where to begin…? Well, perhaps with what’s not supposed to be there. “Stronghold Guardian”, “Earthquake Giant”, and “Level Eater” are all cards used by Yusei, not Jack. Short enough. However, the list of what’s missing is quite longer. There’s no “Dark Resonator”, “Sinister Sprocket”, “Piece Golems”, “Mad Archfiend”, “Red Dragon Archfiend/Assault Mode”, “Trap Eater”, “Twin-Sword Marauder”, “Dark Tinker”, “Majestic Dragon”, “Strong Wind Dragon”, “Ogre of the Scarlet Sorrow”, “Battle Fader”, “Dark Bug”, “Dread Dragon”, “Trust Guardian”, “Power Giant”, “Power Breaker”, “Top Runner”, “Barrier Resonator” or “Force Resonator”. That’s 22 separate omissions! This couldn’t be less like his Deck! Moving on… Spells: Blind Spot Strike x 2Double Cyclone x 2Cursed ArmamentsDarkworld Shackles Oh dear. Now, while “Cursed Armaments” and “Darkworld Shackles” are nice cards in their own right, they were not used by Jack in either his anime or manga incarnation. And “Blind Spot Strike” and “Double Cyclone” were again, Yusei’s cards. So what’s missing? “Cost Down”, “De-Synchro”, “Double Summon”, “Megamorph”, “Mind Trust”, “Mystical Space Typhoon”, “Polymerization”, “Resonator Engine”, “Scarlet Security”, “Red Dragon Vase”, “Resonator Call” and “Resonant Destruction”. Twelve errors. Traps: Descending Lost StarStar SiphonHalf CounterChain WhirlwindMagical Arm Shield x 2MiniaturiseAssault SpiritsLimit ReverseSpacegateRed Screen It’s better than the Spells, this time it actually has cards that he used(!) Except of course, “Star Siphon” and “Half Counter” (Aki), “Chain Whirlwind”, and “Limit Reverse” (Yusei), “Magical Arm Shield” (Joey!) and “Miniaturise” (unused in the anime). So that’s 4 of 11 (fail grade)… As for the omissions… “Prideful Roar”, “Revival Gift”, “Lineage of Destruction”, “Half or Nothing”, “Nightmare Archfiends”, “Assault Mode Activate”, “Interdimensional Matter Transporter”, “Crimson Fire”, “Tuner Capture”, “Fiendish Chain”, “Changing Destiny”, “Synchro Deflector”, “Red Carpet” and “Shadow Spell”. Another fourteen left out. And of course, with the title saying ‘Just Add Synchros!’ there is no Extra Deck, not even taking into account Jack has used the Fusion Monster “Multiple Piece Golem”. So how much is this completely inaccurate sack of crap with only one card above Rare? £14.99, with 80p shipping. £15.79! Using Greylight prices, the cards are only worth £13.39 (so that’s more than £1 you’re being ripped of) with £9.37 of that coming from the Gold Rare “Vice Dragon”. You might now be asking how much it would cost to fix this complete shambles. Well…first I’ll take away any cards that don’t fit and imagine selling them to try and recoup some of the costs(!) Then, I’ll find the cheapest price for the missing cards and see what happens. I’ll skip the calculations and give you the totals. To bring this Deck into what Jack actually uses, you’d have to spend; £20.93 on Main Deck Monsters, £7.45 on Spells and £10.59 on Traps. And since some of the cards, to get the lowest price, are from the U.S., shipping costs must be added on. £2.41 to be exact. However, you will regain £2.10 from the sale of the misplaced cards. Thereforce, a grand total of £39.28 just to make this Deck accurate! As in, a 'Jack Atlas' Deck! Phew. But that’s not all! As the title commands, you need to add the Synchros! So let’s do that as well! Thankfully Jack doesn’t use as wide a selection of Synchros as Yusei, so the list is relatively short. But still rather expensive. “Red Dragon Archfiend” (£3.09), “Red Nova Dragon” (92p), “Multiple Piece Golem” (30p), “Chaos King Archfiend” (£2.16), “Majestic Red Dragon” (61p) and “Exploder Dragonwing” (£6.18) all add up. And since these are also imports, shipping (£1.03) is also counted. That’s £14.29 for Jack’s trumps. So, to conclude, let’s add this all up to see how much this eBay lot would actually cost to make useable and accurate! (Not counting the Synchro staples that will cost more) eBay Lot: £15.79 ; Corrections: £39.28 ; Extra Deck: £14.29 Grand Total: £69.36 Almost £70… And given the Extra Deck addition is about the same as the original Deck, I’d rather have the Synchros than the overpriced Commons… P.S. This analysis was based on YuGiOh Mint’s freakishly low prices. If I were to use Greylight, where a single Ultra Rare “Red Dragon Archfiend” is worth £15.95 (ie more than the whole import Extra Deck), the cost would be almost five times higher. True, though it was not all that amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 According to the wiki, there are 6 TCG Cards worthy of my attention and 1 Anime excusive.TCG: Both "Arcana Force Ex" cards, all of Anubis' "Sphinxes" and "Hamon".Anime exclusive: "Candelato, the Beast of Light" Problem is, all of them have been featured cards in the anime before, so it wouldn't make sense to use them again. Mhh, interesting coincidence. I gues noone wants to be too close to Yuma. Well it does need 2 "Worm Kings/Queens" to be summoned, but I might weaken it's effect a bit. No, he is a moron. I suppose, but in a "Worm" Deck, "Zero" will be banishing like nobody's business. True, though it was not all that amusing. I know. It was more interesting than funny. Just noticing that some people are truly ignorant of some things. Although I have found something that trumps it in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Problem is, all of them have been featured cards in the anime before, so it wouldn't make sense to use them again. True, but I don't really have the luxery of having Manga exclusive LIGHT cards, unfortunatly. So if I want a Mind-controlling card, I'll have to settle with those. I'm leaning towards "Hamon" and "Candelato" rather then the "Sphinxes" and "AF EX" cards. No, he is a moron. I suppose, but in a "Worm" Deck, "Zero" will be banishing like nobody's business. Exactly. True, would it be better if it only returns 1 banished "Worm" to activate it's effect? I know. It was more interesting than funny. Just noticing that some people are truly ignorant of some things. Although I have found something that trumps it in the meantime. Yeah, it was indeed quite interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 True, but I don't really have the luxery of having Manga exclusive LIGHT cards, unfortunatly. So if I want a Mind-controlling card, I'll have to settle with those. I'm leaning towards "Hamon" and "Candelato" rather then the "Sphinxes" and "AF EX" cards. I could look through my back-log and see if I have any Level 10 LIGHTs you might be interested in. True, would it be better if it only returns 1 banished "Worm" to activate it's effect? Yes. But you might also want to add a clause that monsters returned by the effect are unable to leave the Graveyard for a turn. Yeah, it was indeed quite interesting. Exactly. I have found someone on eBay trying to sell a 'YuGiOh Yusei Fudo Deck', when it is literally just the 2008 Starter Deck which contains 4 cards used by Yusei. £12.48 for that, while I could buy the Deck in the sealed box (with guide and playmat) for £7.99... It's just people preying on parents' ignorance of their childrens' hobbies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I could look through my back-log and see if I have any Level 10 LIGHTs you might be interested in. That would be apriciated. Yes. But you might also want to add a clause that monsters returned by the effect are unable to leave the Graveyard for a turn. Noted. Exactly. I have found someone on eBay trying to sell a 'YuGiOh Yusei Fudo Deck', when it is literally just the 2008 Starter Deck which contains 4 cards used by Yusei. £12.48 for that, while I could buy the Deck in the sealed box (with guide and playmat) for £7.99... It's just people preying on parents' ignorance of their childrens' hobbies. Yeah, it's kinda sad. Just like people who sell/trade fake cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 That would be apriciated. Okay. Yeah, it's kinda sad. Just like people who sell/trade fake cards. Hm... What's sad is when people buy them thinking they are real. I only bought one fake card off eBay, knowing it was fake. Because it looked so silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Okay. K thanks. Hm... What's sad is when people buy them thinking they are real. I only bought one fake card off eBay, knowing it was fake. Because it looked so silly. I only got some fake cards when we (my family) was on vacation in Portugal, my Mother bought them thinking they where real. I took 1 look at a Trap that has ATK & DEF and I said to my Mother: "These are fake." The shopkeeper who sold them wasn't to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 K thanks. A quick search uncovered this pair. Effect: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by Tributing 3 LIGHT monsters you control. This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard. This card is unaffected by the effects of Trap Cards that do not target it. Each time a Trap Card is activated, put 1 Yang Counter on this card. You can remove any number of Yang Counters on this card to banish 1 face-up card your opponent controls whose Level is equal to the number of removed counters. (Spell and Trap Cards are treated as Level 1) When this card is destroyed, banish a number of cards your opponent controls equal to the number of monsters banished by this card's effect. Effect: This card cannot be Special Summoned, except by its own effect. You can banish 3 Level 5 or higher LIGHT monsters you control to Special Summon this card from your hand. Your opponent cannot Set cards until the end of their 2nd turn after this card is Special Summoned. If a LIGHT monster you control would be destroyed, you can banish 1 LIGHT monster in your Graveyard instead. (This effect is treated as Spell Speed 3.) I only got some fake cards when we (my family) was on vacation in Portugal, my Mother bought them thinking they where real. I took 1 look at a Trap that has ATK & DEF and I said to my Mother: "These are fake." The shopkeeper who sold them wasn't to be found. If I can get my scanner working, I'll scan my fake in, so you can see it. It's better than most fakes like the ones you encountered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 A quick search uncovered this pair. Effect: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by Tributing 3 LIGHT monsters you control. This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard. This card is unaffected by the effects of Trap Cards that do not target it. Each time a Trap Card is activated, put 1 Yang Counter on this card. You can remove any number of Yang Counters on this card to banish 1 face-up card your opponent controls whose Level is equal to the number of removed counters. (Spell and Trap Cards are treated as Level 1) When this card is destroyed, banish a number of cards your opponent controls equal to the number of monsters banished by this card's effect. Effect: This card cannot be Special Summoned, except by its own effect. You can banish 3 Level 5 or higher LIGHT monsters you control to Special Summon this card from your hand. Your opponent cannot Set cards until the end of their 2nd turn after this card is Special Summoned. If a LIGHT monster you control would be destroyed, you can banish 1 LIGHT monster in your Graveyard instead. (This effect is treated as Spell Speed 3.) Mhh, both cards seem fitting. But I'm tempted to lean more towards "Eternal Sol Dragon".Just wondering, when you imagined these cards being used. Did you see them as 'evil'? If I can get my scanner working, I'll scan my fake in, so you can see it. It's better than most fakes like the ones you encountered. K, I'll see if I still have my fakes. Als some cards had like 5000ish ATK, while being only Lvl 6ish or a Trap <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Mhh, both cards seem fitting. But I'm tempted to lean more towards "Eternal Sol Dragon".Just wondering, when you imagined these cards being used. Did you see them as 'evil'? They are both incarnations of Yang, the energy that forces renewal. As in, they create, but to do so, they must destroy. The Light of Destruction is a similar concept. So in a way, they are evil, as they are the source of death and destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 They are both incarnations of Yang, the energy that forces renewal. As in, they create, but to do so, they must destroy. The Light of Destruction is a similar concept. So in a way, they are evil, as they are the source of death and destruction. I remember you saying something simulair when I was busy with my fic (which I'll probebly won't do anymore, too much trouble), K I'll treat them as evil for time's being.I think I'll go with "Eternal Sol Dragon" for now. Seeing as Helios, Master of Light" is too hard to Summon with a "Worm" Deck and "ESD"s effect fits more with the "Worms" imo. Also I checked my own cards and the only lvl 10 LIGHT Main Deck monster I had was "Guardian Angel - Emperor Divaniël". Which only effect (beside having the shared gods effect) is that it can Summon Tokens. Which isn't quite fitting imo. Also, would it make sence that I was chosen by that card's real incarnation to eliminate all Darkness in the world. And seeing as the "Numbers" increase the Darkness in once's heart, my "No." card cancels the 'overdose' of Light out and makes me simply want to eliminate everything?I was also thinking about maybe giving myself either a split personality, 1 is my ussual face a friendly person that works in the same reporting agency as Akari (I checked her name), who has a habit of overusing the word 'beautiful'. The other is a derailed agent of Light, (I'm not shure about how and why yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I remember you saying something simulair when I was busy with my fic (which I'll probebly won't do anymore, too much trouble), K I'll treat them as evil for time's being.I think I'll go with "Eternal Sol Dragon" for now. Seeing as Helios, Master of Light" is too hard to Summon with a "Worm" Deck and "ESD"s effect fits more with the "Worms" imo. Okay. Also, would it make sence that I was chosen by that card's real incarnation to eliminate all Darkness in the world. And seeing as the "Numbers" increase the Darkness in once's heart, my "No." card cancels the 'overdose' of Light out and makes me simply want to eliminate everything?I was also thinking about maybe giving myself either a split personality, 1 is my ussual face a friendly person that works in the same reporting agency as Akari (I checked her name), who has a habit of overusing the word 'beautiful'. The other is a derailed agent of Light, (I'm not shure about how and why yet). It might be an idea to consider that your "Number" was 'manufactured' by forces unknown to combat the darkness through sheer force of active energy, ie a rogue "Number" within the archetype. Again, this could be a result of your "Number's" rather different creation. Instead of possessing you as the normal "Numbers" do, it forced its own mind onto yours and to avoid detection, simply lets your mind be in control most of the time, except when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 It might be an idea to consider that your "Number" was 'manufactured' by forces unknown to combat the darkness through sheer force of active energy, ie a rogue "Number" within the archetype. Again, this could be a result of your "Number's" rather different creation. Instead of possessing you as the normal "Numbers" do, it forced its own mind onto yours and to avoid detection, simply lets your mind be in control most of the time, except when needed. I like those ideas. Yeah, that's how I'll make everything work. I'll be an 'undercover' agent of Light then.Also should I give my "Number" card an abstact number? I was thinking about giving it something like 00. That is, presume that the final "Number" card will be 100. Though I still need to work out how I would eliminate the Darkness then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Well, haven't been in this club for awhile, so, what's going on? @Lex: Thank you, spriting is a lot harder then you think, its a nuisance to sprite b/c of all the different colors and etc, but its okay b/c when you finish it, it looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Currently Max and me where discussing my fictional ZeXal Character. And I have to admit, I always though spriting was quite hard. So it must be incredibly hard if it's more difficould then I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 @Lex: Its not really difficult until you color it, then its a pain in the rear.... You see, this is all a sprite is. A drawing of yours, then you add brightness until you barely see it, then scale it down to sprite size, then outline it in paint, then color. So, its okay.....But I stink at drawing.....so, its harder for me..... Your fictional Zexal Character? Huh? Funny, I unhid my dragon and it grew up instantly....in a blink of an eye, I call that fast...weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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