DeathSDelano Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 But i did beat them once with an alien deck if that counts ^.^ i love my aliens they can be so cheap sometimes especially when Overload never dies. Heck the game i won against sabers he had his Urbellum ram my Overload destroy both(i had 2 Code As on the field) which was useless (he played BTH Facedown) use Code A summoned up Warrior it gets BTH'd as i planned i get 2 A codes one on each Code A as an alien monster was destroyed. Summoned overlord and swung for game :D though i still lost the match even irl with my thrown together alien deck thing that is crap it annoys the crap out people that duel it when i get the set up i want that makes overload always coming back xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Well, Stun D.D. can do the job. However, I have been realizing they don't mix well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 i just demolished this guy's deck with my aliens he gave up after my 2nd turn each duel. And also i had 2 Overlords both Duels XD [spoiler=duel]this is log windowShunkai|>joined the duel.Shunkai|>loaded their deck Out of this World.Shunkai|>ready to duel.Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.WillieT17|>joined the duel.WillieT17|>ready to duel.WillieT17|>loaded their deck WOW That brings Back Some Memories.WillieT17|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>heyShunkai|>Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.WillieT17|>BUZZ!.WillieT17|>hiWillieT17|>shuffled their deck.WillieT17|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>rolled 5.WillieT17|>shuffled their deck.WillieT17|>rolled 4.Shunkai|>looks like ill startWillieT17|>Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>drawn a cardWillieT17|>drawn a cardWillieT17|>drawn a cardWillieT17|>drawn a cardWillieT17|>drawn a cardWillieT17|>drawn a cardShunkai|>come to Draw Phase.WillieT17|>u chooseWillieT17|>okShunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>move Alien Warrior from hand to fieldShunkai|>move a card from hand to fieldShunkai|>end their turn.Shunkai|>my favorite non-synchro monster =3WillieT17|>drawn a cardWillieT17|>move a card from hand to fieldWillieT17|>move Mausoleum of the Emperor from hand to fieldWillieT17|>activated effect of Mausoleum of the Emperor.WillieT17|>changed their LP from 8000 to 6000.WillieT17|>move Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon from hand to fieldWillieT17|>activated effect of Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.WillieT17|>move Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV4 from hand to fieldWillieT17|>come to Battle Phase.WillieT17|>Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon attacks their Alien Warrior at #1.Shunkai|>changed their LP from 8000 to 7000.Shunkai|>move Alien Warrior from field to graveyardShunkai|>activated effect of Alien Warrior.Shunkai|>2 A counters on you red eyesWillieT17|>added 1A counter on Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.WillieT17|>added 1A counter on Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.WillieT17|>okWillieT17|>Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV4 attacks their Opponent LP.Shunkai|>changed their LP from 7000 to 5400.WillieT17|>end their turn.Shunkai|>come to Draw Phase.Shunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>activated effect of Alien Overlord.Shunkai|>i remove the 2 A counters on red eyesShunkai|>move Alien Overlord from hand to fieldShunkai|>to Special Summon thisWillieT17|>okShunkai|>activated effect of Alien Overlord.Shunkai|>1 A counter on each of your monstersWillieT17|>removed 1A counter on Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.WillieT17|>added 1A counter on Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV4.Shunkai|>move Mysterious Triangle from hand to fieldShunkai|>activated effect of Mysterious Triangle.Shunkai|>destroy red eyesWillieT17|>activated effect of Royal Decree.Shunkai|>its a spell card WillieT17|>move Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon from field to graveyardShunkai|>looking into their deck.Shunkai|>move Alien Warrior from deck to fieldShunkai|>u can flip over decreeShunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>move Mysterious Triangle from field to graveyardShunkai|>move Krebons from hand to fieldShunkai|>move Emergency Teleport from hand to fieldWillieT17|>i noShunkai|>activated effect of Emergency Teleport.Shunkai|>looking into their deck.Shunkai|>move Krebons from deck to fieldShunkai|>move Emergency Teleport from field to graveyardShunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>come to Battle Phase.Shunkai|>Alien Warrior attacks their Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV4 at #2.WillieT17|>move Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV4 from field to graveyardShunkai|>n due to A counter horus loses 300 atk when battling alien warriorWillieT17|>changed their LP from 6000 to 5800.WillieT17|>changed their LP from 5800 to 5500.Shunkai|>Alien Overlord attacks their Opponent LP.Shunkai|>Krebons attacks their Opponent LP.Shunkai|>Krebons attacks their Opponent LP.Shunkai|>thats 4600 pionts of damageWillieT17|>changed their LP from 5500 to 900.Shunkai|>come to Main Phase 2.WillieT17|>YESShunkai|>synchro timeShunkai|>move Alien Warrior from field to graveyardShunkai|>move Krebons from field to graveyardShunkai|>move Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier from extra deck to fieldShunkai|>activated effect of Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier.Shunkai|>move Alien Overlord from hand to graveyardShunkai|>return royal decreeWillieT17|>move a card from field to handShunkai|>synchro againShunkai|>move Krebons from field to graveyardShunkai|>move Alien Overlord from field to graveyardShunkai|>move Stardust Dragon from extra deck to fieldShunkai|>end their turn.WillieT17|>hey u have to discardWillieT17|>drawn a cardWillieT17|>drawn a cardWillieT17|>drawn a cardWillieT17|>drawn a cardShunkai|>i did i discard overload #2WillieT17|>drawn a cardShunkai|>i have 2 overloads in graveWillieT17|>ok round 2?Shunkai|>1 from summon other was costShunkai|>sureShunkai|>has performed a soft reset.Shunkai|>exchanging cards between maindeck and sidedeck.Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.WillieT17|>ok i go 1st cuz i lostShunkai|>kWillieT17|>shuffled their deck.WillieT17|>shuffled their deck.WillieT17|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>you didnt SRWillieT17|>drawn a cardShunkai|>or it didnt show up hereWillieT17|>drawn a cardWillieT17|>drawn a cardWillieT17|>drawn a cardShunkai|>HelloShunkai|>You soft reset did not show upWillieT17|>o Shunkai|>it still says you have 900 LPWillieT17|>i got a good hand thoughWillieT17|>changed their LP from 8000 to 7000.WillieT17|>changed their LP from 7000 to 8000.WillieT17|>how about now?Shunkai|>i havent drawn yet and i was siting here telling ya and okShunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>u may start and i like my hand O.oWillieT17|>come to Draw Phase.WillieT17|>move a card from hand to fieldWillieT17|>s***WillieT17|>end their turn.Shunkai|>come to Draw Phase.Shunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>move a card from hand to fieldShunkai|>move a card from hand to fieldShunkai|>end their turn.WillieT17|>drawn a cardWillieT17|>flip Royal Decree faceup.WillieT17|>activated effect of Royal Decree.Shunkai|>doesnt bother me WillieT17|>move Mausoleum of the Emperor from field to graveyardWillieT17|>move Mausoleum of the Emperor from hand to fieldWillieT17|>activated effect of Mausoleum of the Emperor.WillieT17|>changed their LP from 8000 to 6000.WillieT17|>move Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon from hand to fieldWillieT17|>activated effect of Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.WillieT17|>move Blue-Eyes White Dragon from hand to fieldWillieT17|>activated effect of Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon.WillieT17|>move Blue-Eyes White Dragon from field to graveyardShunkai|>cant summon himWillieT17|>move Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon from hand to fieldShunkai|>read the cardShunkai|>it requires Blue eyes UltimateShunkai|>not regular blue eyesWillieT17|>omgWillieT17|>that suxs assWillieT17|>move Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon from field to handWillieT17|>move Blue-Eyes White Dragon from graveyard to fieldShunkai|>thats why he is not used muchWillieT17|>wow thats coming out of the deck after thisShunkai|>are you gonna attack or notWillieT17|>come to Battle Phase.WillieT17|>Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon attacks their Face-down monster at #1.Shunkai|>move Sangan from field to graveyardShunkai|>activated effect of Sangan.Shunkai|>looking into their deck.Shunkai|>move Alien Ammonite from deck to handShunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.WillieT17|>Blue-Eyes White Dragon attacks their Opponent LP.Shunkai|>changed their LP from 8000 to 5000.WillieT17|>end their turn.Shunkai|>come to Draw Phase.Shunkai|>drawn a cardShunkai|>prefectShunkai|>move Alien Ammonite from hand to fieldShunkai|>activated effect of Alien Dog.Shunkai|>move Alien Dog from hand to fieldShunkai|>move Alien Dog from hand to fieldShunkai|>activated effect of Alien Dog.Shunkai|>activated effect of Alien Dog.Shunkai|>place 2 A counters on each of your monstersWillieT17|>added 1A counter on Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.WillieT17|>added 1A counter on Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.WillieT17|>added 1A counter on Blue-Eyes White Dragon.WillieT17|>added 1A counter on Blue-Eyes White Dragon.Shunkai|>now i remove 2 A counters from Red eyes Shunkai|>activated effect of Alien Overlord.Shunkai|>move Alien Overlord from hand to fieldWillieT17|>removed 1A counter on Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.WillieT17|>removed 1A counter on Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.Shunkai|>activated effect of Alien Overlord.WillieT17|>okShunkai|>1 A counter on each of your monstersWillieT17|>added 1A counter on Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.Shunkai|>move Emergency Teleport from hand to fieldShunkai|>activated effect of Emergency Teleport.WillieT17|>added 1A counter on Blue-Eyes White Dragon.Shunkai|>looking into their deck.Shunkai|>move Krebons from deck to fieldShunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>shuffled their deck.Shunkai|>synchroShunkai|>move Krebons from field to graveyardShunkai|>move Alien Overlord from field to graveyardShunkai|>move Emergency Teleport from field to graveyardShunkai|>move Stardust Dragon from extra deck to fieldWillieT17|>okShunkai|>Now i remove 1 A counter from Blue eyes and 1 From red eyesShunkai|>activated effect of Alien Overlord.Shunkai|>move Alien Overlord from hand to fieldWillieT17|>removed 1A counter on Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.Shunkai|>activated effect of Alien Overlord.WillieT17|>removed 1A counter on Blue-Eyes White Dragon.Shunkai|>A counter againWillieT17|>added 1A counter on Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon.WillieT17|>added 1A counter on Blue-Eyes White Dragon.Shunkai|>synchroShunkai|>move Alien Ammonite from field to graveyardShunkai|>move Alien Dog from field to graveyardShunkai|>move Armory Arm from extra deck to fieldShunkai|>activated effect of Armory Arm.Shunkai|>moved Armory Arm to spell zone 2.Shunkai|>Equiped to StardustShunkai|>now stardust has 3500Shunkai|>come to Battle Phase.Shunkai|>Stardust Dragon attacks their Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon at #1.WillieT17|>move Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon from field to graveyardShunkai|>-700 + armory arms 2nd effect you take MEtal dragons attack as damageWillieT17|>changed their LP from 6000 to 5300.Shunkai|>activated effect of Armory Arm.WillieT17|>changed their LP from 5300 to 2500.Shunkai|>-2800 as well Shunkai|>Alien Overlord attacks their Blue-Eyes White Dragon at #2.WillieT17|>i didShunkai|>blue eyes loses 900 atk when battling overload with 3 A countersShunkai|>so he has 100 less atk than overloadWillieT17|>move Blue-Eyes White Dragon from field to graveyardWillieT17|>changed their LP from 2500 to 2400.Shunkai|>Alien Dog attacks their Opponent LP.WillieT17|>changed their LP from 2400 to 900.Shunkai|>What you think of that turn though you are still around barelyShunkai|>end their turn.WillieT17|>drawn a card Link to 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Nathanael D. Striker Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Why is the duel log in the spoiler title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 i have no clue i closed the spoiler O.o and there is no spoiler= O great now we have to put titles -.- and fix'd it also someone said this card was extremely OP'd and need more drawbacks though i don't see why lore:This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by Tributing 3 WATER monsters you control. Once per turn, you can send 1 Spell or Trap card you control to the Graveyard to send all cards on the field to the Graveyard except this card. During the turn you activate this effect you cannot Summon or conduct your Battle Phase. i mean seriously you have to give up Summons n Battle Phase to use its effect and it already requires 3 cards to summon also just in i beat an Anti-meta deck with my aliens1st duel was close, 2nd duel wiped him out on my 2nd turni blew up his opression before he got to play it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 @ Whamo: The only way I've found to severly damage "X-Sabers" is to use meta against them. "Glad Beasts" and "Blackwings" can out-run them and turn their tactics against them, especially if you can keeping bouncing "Glad Beast Gyzarus" back onto the field to keep that clear, while using a pair of "Glad Beast Lash Whips" to empty their hand a little. Basically, you need to beat them down, viciously. @ Delano: It is overpowered for one simple reason. The fuel needed for its effect. "Neo-Daedalus" requires a specific card and needs to be Summoned with a specific card. This on the other hand can be Summoned with a trio of WATER monsters, which isn't too difficult if you think about the effects of "A Leg Ocean", "Double Summon" and more importantly "Ultimate Offering" and "Inferno Reckless Summon". Both of the latter could easily get your trio of monsters out to tribute. And since it's a Special Summon, that summon could be carried out immediately. So, since it's already rather easier to Summon than "Neo-Daedalus" (which I'm using for comparative reasons), that's already a slight drawback. Then the field nuke. Like I said, "Neo-Daedalus" requires "Umi" to detonate, clearing the field and each player's hands. It also of course blows up the rather important Field Spell. However, this is any Spell or Trap you control. For example, if you summon this with empty S/T Zones, just this monster on your side while your opponent has a pair of monsters and a trio of S/Ts, just Setting a Spell Card will allow you to trigger this and wipe the field clean. And it doesn't matter if you can't conduct your Battle Phase, simply because you've completely emptied your opponent's field. If I, a "Counter Fairy" user where to lose "Voltanis", "Sanctuary in the Sky", "Valhalla" and "United We Stand" and a "Dark Bribe" through this card's effect, it wouldn't matter that you couldn't attack me, I would be at a complete disadvantage, since I would probably have no way to counter-attack left in my hand. Its problem is that you need specific cards if you want to carry out an everything-but-me field nuke. And this is just too easy to trigger. That's why it's overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 @Delano - Superancient Deepsea King breaks the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 5D's Anime Update: Yusei, Jack, Crow, Aki, Bruno and Team Taiyo are all morons. "Sleeping Giant Thud" is claimed to be invincible because it can't be targeted by card effects. Can't be targeted. So...any effect that doesn't target like "Mirror Force" or "Lightning Vortex" (you know, the staples) will happily obliterate the obese leviathan. Idiots, all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 This card's original ATK is equal to the number of Machine-Type monsters in the Graveyard x 200. This card gains the effects of the DARK Monster used to Fusion Summon this card. When this card is destroyed, you can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Machine-Type monster in face-up Attack Position. I need opinions on this. @Topic: Blame Konami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 this idiot i am dueling thinks he can chain assault mecenry's spell/trap destruction effect during the battle phase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 I'm amazed. My "Gladiator Beast" Deck just got demolished...by my own "Counter Fairy" Deck! I mean, it was a total walk-over. And it wasn't as if I couldn't get my strongest cards out, I managed to summon "Gyzarus" twice, both time using its effect. But in the end, it was a "Divine Wrath" that blew "Gyzarus" sky-high, which allowed "Voltanis" to Special Summon itself, obliterating my field completely. One direct attack later, and it was over. @ Striker: I take the fact it's Level 1 is a mistake. I don't think I would use it since "Perfect Machine King", if Summoned quickly can be a incredible beatstick (especially if comboed with "DNA Surgery"), which can then be fused with "Cyber Dragon" (and your opponent's monsters if you have "DNA Surgery") to Summon a 4000/5000 ATK "Chimeratech Fortress Dragon". This card's ATK would only be a threat towards the end of a duel, and even with 15 monsters in the Grave, this will only just break 3000 ATK. Plus, a lot of DARK Machine-Type monsters don't have brilliant effects, and since you've limited to Level 4 and lower ones, the most powerful DARK Machines "Revolver Dragon" and "Blowback Dragon" can't be fused to give this card their effect. "Jinzo-Returner" might be an interesting choice, since when it's destroyed, you could get a "Jinzo" and the Level 4 or lower Machine-Type, possibly leading to a Level 8 Synchro; but it still wouldn't be worth it. In short, it's difficult to summon (considering not even "Ultimate Gear Golem" Decks run "Polymerization") and its ATK and effect are not good enough to justify giving up a "Perfect Machine King". "E-Hero Prisma" might be an option, but even then, you're throwing a "PMK" to the Grave... @ Delano: Some people just don't know the difference between Ignition and Quick effects... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 And i was sitting there telling him heck i even had the Spell Speed rules up on my screen -.- telling him. he kept saying he can because its a multi-ignition effect though there is not such thing <.< in the end he said he had to go despite the fact i won the 1st duel i just said this duel is invalid and told him do not report. Also he was impatient heck i asked him if he wanted chain and waited he said ya done yet. And also numerous times after i done my battle phase he just went to his draw phase and drew when for all he knows i was not done <.< because i did not say i end my turn yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 And i was sitting there telling him heck i even had the Spell Speed rules up on my screen -.- telling him. he kept saying he can because its a multi-ignition effect though there is not such thing <.< in the end he said he had to go despite the fact i won the 1st duel i just said this duel is invalid and told him do not report. Also he was impatient heck i asked him if he wanted chain and waited he said ya done yet. And also numerous times after i done my battle phase he just went to his draw phase and drew when for all he knows i was not done <.< because i did not say i end my turn yet "Gladiator Beasts" of course need that Main Phase 2, otherwise they are very vulnerable. And some people are just morons. Modified card from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Should I make it any Machine-Type monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Should I make it any Machine-Type monster? Yes. And you might want to change it to "Machine King" instead of "Perfect Machine King". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 "Machine King" + Any DARK monster + Any Machine-Type monsterThis card's name is treated as "Machine King". This card's original ATK is equal to the number of Machine-Type monsters in the Graveyard x 400. This card gains the effects of the DARK Monster and Machine-Type monster used to Fusion Summon this card. When this card is destroyed, you can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Machine-Type monster in face-up Attack Position. I did a little tinkering like you suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 I don;t know if Lightning Vortex exists in 5D's but Mirror Force is their best friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted August 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 @ Whamo: So far, the only duelist I've seen with any staples is Zane from GX. His "Cyber Dragon" Deck runs both "M.S.T." and "Call of the Haunted". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 He guys, I'm back. So did anything happen while I was gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted August 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 I got the biggest bargin ever in YGO cards. Check my status. Other than that, I lost to my own "Counter Fairy" Deck using "Gladiator Beasts"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Did that GB Deck include Heraklinos? If so, then I'm impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted August 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Did that GB Deck include Heraklinos? If so, then I'm impressed. Yes, but "Laquri" was crushed by a "Cestus"-equipped "Zeradias" before I could contact fuse him. Basically, with "Sanctuary" on the field, and two "Zeradias" (and my "Archfiend Shield"-equipped 2100 ATK "Laquari"), he rammed "Laquari" with the first before finishing him off with the second. One "Gyzarus" got "B.T.H."-ed and the third was "Divine Wrath"-ed. Only my second one actually managed to do any real damage, but I tagged that out to activate a few more effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Then I must say, that Counter Fairy Deck is quite impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted August 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Then I must say, that Counter Fairy Deck is quite impressive. I agree. With me using it, it's only lost once...to a "Lightsworn" Deck. And that was only one of the three duels of the match. It didn't even lose to a "Jinzo" Deck. "Majestic Mech-Ohka" + "Cestus of Dagla" defeated "Jinzo-Lord" and then was able to be revived, giving me a quick beatstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Nice, do you have the recipy lying around somewhere. I would love to test it in ROA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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