Mr.WHAM Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I know nothing about Zexal, but from what I hear here, the protagnist is an idiot. And Exceeds don't even seem to be worth it, I mean considering how ridicoulosu a rank 10 exceeds effect might be. I mean just think, what would happen if you Exceed a yubel, Redmd & Armed Dragon LV10...that effect better be AMAZING. And basically a gauranteed win if I gave up 3 powerful monsters like that. Whether or not Konami realizes it, these Exceed monsters are probably going to make Chaos Emporer Dragon loook pretty Nice...well maybe not him, but definatle something tolerable like card crush virus or heavy storm, maybe even Dark Striker Fighter...oooh I smell big overpowered changes coming. And plot devices. The only reason that boy cannot duel is for plot. It'd be nice if he discovered a way to use the cards effectively with what they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I need an effect fix, just the OCG and I'll add the drawback if needed... When this card is Normal Summoned, you can activate the following effect: If your opponent Normal Summoned or Special Summoned 2 or more times in one turn, you can select 1 card they control and remove it from play. When this card is Special Summoned, you can activate the following effect: Select 1 card in your opponent's Graveyard and add it to their hand. Then add 1 card from deck to your Hand. If this card is Normal Summoned and than Special Summoned in one turn, remove it from play at the End Phase. If this card is Summoned 2 or more times during 1 turn, remove it from play during the End Phase.* If this card is Normal Summoned, this card gains the following effect: Once, if your opponent Summons 2 or more monsters during their turn, you can remove 1 card they control from play.* If this card is Special Summoned, this card gains the following effect: Once, you can select 1 card in your opponent's Graveyard and add it to their hand. Then, add 1 card from your Deck to your hand. ^ My version. I know nothing about Zexal, but from what I hear here, the protagnist is an idiot. Oh he is. And Exceeds don't even seem to be worth it, I mean considering how ridicoulosu a rank 10 exceeds effect might be. I mean just think, what would happen if you Exceed a yubel, Redmd & Armed Dragon LV10...that effect better be AMAZING. And basically a gauranteed win if I gave up 3 powerful monsters like that. Consider the Level 10+ Synchros. There are less than ten (the "Aesirs", "Shooting Star", "Scar-Red Nova", "Trident Dragion", "Vylon Omega", "AoJ Decisive Arms"), they are specific in their requirements and most of them are central to the anime. The same will be with the Rank 8+ Exceeds. They will be featured in the anime, then a few more will be released as semi-splashable beatsticks. They will be powerful, but will not justify their summoning conditions. If you have to give up two or three Level 8s, then you will prefer to keep the field presence than overlay the lot. Whether or not Konami realizes it, these Exceed monsters are probably going to make Chaos Emporer Dragon loook pretty Nice...well maybe not him, but definatle something tolerable like card crush virus or heavy storm, maybe even Dark Striker Fighter...oooh I smell big overpowered changes coming. "Chaos Emperor", "Crush Card", "Heavy Storm" and "Dark Strike Fighter" are all broken, hence why all of them are banned. Several Synchros have hit the banlist or have been Limited recently. Exceeds require at least two monsters on the field, they need to be the same Level, and the materials are not sent to the Graveyard, a key feature of modern meta Decks. Once you reach Rank 5 and above, they start to become underpowered. And plot devices. The only reason that boy cannot duel is for plot. It'd be nice if he discovered a way to use the cards effectively with what they have. It's to explain YGO mechanics, since YGO never had an intro episode/arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Yeah. The underpowering of these cards seems to be a big neg on them. And unless they change the conditions for the ranks, which I highly doubt, then when you hit a rank 10, even with its generic specificity, it produces problems for users. As for the 10R synchros, they do take work to use, but they are damn worth it. Once you have one on the field, its easy to win the game in 3 or less turns. As for brokenness, crush card is broken but with today's decks,it can be stopped as wirh heavy storm. But CED & DSF will never stop being broken. No matter how you look at it, hence why many duelists love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 @Max: You know, how do you know how to word effects so darn well? I'm just wondering, I've tried to do it better, but you seem to know how to work it just right...Maybe you should open a effect training thing like Icy tried..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 MW, I just look for errors. Max looks for ways for the effect to be more clear and OCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 @Mr.Striker: Yea, and I try but I can't catch my own errors and stuff....I guess I have to get better or just stop....I am almost 21 and I should be hunting for a future, but my future lies within my brain until the improbable is probable..... Also, why is it that someone else makes an new card and template for it call it a new summon in RC and gets awya with it. But if you do it, then they move it to Any Other Cards....? Little weird, right....I even got permission from Icy to post it there, yet it was moved....any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 I have only made 1 different type of summoning and that is the Savage Summon. Honestly, if it would be made into a real card, it is realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~The Dark one~ Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Username: Pokefanatic Why you want to join: like helping people Favorite Card: to many to count Do you play the game in real life: yesh How you were referred to the club: browsing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Temporary acceptance powers activate! (Accepted) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Lolz, personally I only helped develop 5D's his new Summoning technike. But that's it for me. And welcome Pokefanatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted May 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Welcome Pokefanatic. Having now almost completed "Over the Nexus" (358 victories done), I've gone back to see what I can do with "Stardust Accelerator". Wow. All the Decks are as spammy as they could be back then. And there are only three types of opposing Decks. But it's not all bad. "Bestiari" is Unlimited(!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Lol, at least it's something then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted May 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Lol, at least it's something then. It's just difficult having the cards from the last two years removed. Strategies are at best, restricted. Also, they didn't have their most imaginative people working on it, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 @Mr.Striker: Yea, it's considered realistic in my view, but the name of it got me from upping you. But it also had a hard requirement which I like, but in a contest, I like to go with the easy understanding cards so then I don't have many people asking me why i chose it and everything. Also, your savage summon was unique, but IMO it didn't need it as you could state in the card without the new summon. If necessary, you could have said treat this as a Savage Summon, which I will do for my ulterior monsters....But its all my opinion, Max could probably gladly say otherwise on what I have said... @Max: Is my effect overpowered even though you can only activate the effect once when it is Normal Summoned or activate the other effect only once when it is Special Summoned? Just wondering, I thought it was okay, but you know more about it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MibeR Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Did we talk Master White newest Arche here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted May 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 @Max: Is my effect overpowered even though you can only activate the effect once when it is Normal Summoned or activate the other effect only once when it is Special Summoned? Just wondering, I thought it was okay, but you know more about it..... I couldn't tell. You haven't given us any other information about the monster. Until we know its Level, Attribute, Type and ATK/DEF; there's no way to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 @Max: That's true, I guess I could post the link....Goodbye CardsYou wll probably find them relatively up'd or op'd in your view but others found the first one really likeable.... @Maha Guns: No, my new Archetype I did not discuss here, I just asked for an effect fix got 2 for the price of 1. I thank you Max and Striker for the effect fixes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 My attempts to archive my card collection sometimes end oddly. While going through the "Hidden Arsenal" series and releasing my "Guardian of Order" was the Sneak Peek version, I had the idea of a "Sanctuary Fairy" vs. "Fabled" duel. I then worked it into my Gottliche Bediensteten duellists and turned it into a "Felgrand Fabled" Deck. The resulting duel seems to flow quite well; an aggressive start from each side, a slower section in the middle as one player struggles to stay in it, followed by a last pair of turns where 15 seperate monsters are summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 15 Mons, that's quite a bunch Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 15 Mons, that's quite a bunch Max. Indeed. I also went through the finished duel and found the "Fabled" user only had 7 cards left in her Deck by her final turn, due to her Deck's rampant draw power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Which cards did you use as draw cards in that Deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Which cards did you use as draw cards in that Deck? "Card Destruction", "Trade-In", "Fabled Arca" (a fan-made "Fabled" that allows you to draw, then immediately discard cards), "Fabled Valkyrius" and "Fabled Ragin". <- The main one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Mhh, ok. Wait it's a fic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Mhh, ok. Wait it's a fic? Yes. Hence the use of "Felgrand Dragon". Otherwise I wouldn't have put it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Ah, makes sense. But how did you incorperate "Felgrand", it's quite hard to actually use properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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