Vaporeon vs Empoleon

[Kitty]

Vaporeon

 

 

Special Ability: Water Absorb - Turns water into HP

 

Level 100

 

Any Move Set

 

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Empoleon

 

 

Special Ability: Torrent - Ups water moves in a pinch.

 

Level 100

 

Any Move Set

[Grunt Issun]

Well, Empolepon resists hits well, as well as has a good non water moveset, so Empoleon

[Kitty]

Vaporeon can learn non water type moves as well.

 

Iron tail is good (Because on my LG Game my Level 100 Jolteon knows it and can take out a Pokemon easily), but it has to hit first.

 

Vaporeon can learn Ice moves and that would get Empoleon.

Also it can learn Shadow Ball I think.

[Grunt Issun]

Hmm, I see your point, however, steel types resist ice, making it a normal damage attack, however Vaporeon disablesn the ability of empoleon.

[Xazeon]

I'm going to say that Empoleon has the following moveset and item:

 

Item: Life Orb

 

Moveset:

Surf

Ice Beam

Grass Knot

Agility

 

And Vaporeon has the following moveset and item:

 

Item: Choice Specs

 

Moveset:

Surf

Ice Beam

Hidden Power Electric

Signal Beam

 

Empoleon would take 70.5% - 83.2% of damage from the Hidden Power. Now it's Empoleon's turn.

 

Vaporeon would take 43.9% - 51.9% of damage from Grass Knot.

 

Vaporeon uses Hidden Power Electric again and Empoleon faints.

 

 

My vote for Vaporeon; but that's just one moveset.

[Grunt Issun]

But the hidden power could also be rock, do the calculation now

[Kitty]

I know I'm gonna hate asking this but I'm curious.

 

What's all this Hidden Power Electric and stuff?

 

(If it's game related I only have up to LG and FR because of not having a Nintendo DS.)

[Xazeon]

But the hidden power could also be rock' date=' do the calculation now

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*facepalm*

 

I know I'm gonna hate asking this but I'm curious.

 

What's all this Hidden Power Electric and stuff?

 

(If it's game related I only have up to LG and FR because of not having a Nintendo DS.)

 

http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/hidden_power#electric

[Kitty]

Thanks Xazeon

[Βyakuya]

Umm...I'll draw the conclusions:

 

-Vaporeon's Ability is helpful, but a smart trainer would not use water moves for Empoleon, but it would be sorta hard

 

-Empoleon is also a steel type, but is balanced by the Water side of Empoleon.

 

-For opinions, the Eeveelutions are very cool

 

-Empoleon has a hard defensive stat as well as an attack stat. However, Vaporeon is know to use sp. atks. There is no difference between them

 

I believe vaporeon is better

[Grunt Issun]

seriously, the type of the hidden power could be ALMOST anything

[Xazeon]

seriously' date=' the type of the hidden power could be ALMOST anything

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Did you even read this?

[Grunt Issun]

Oh I see, But lets say it doesnt have hidden power, instead it has hydro pump, now Empoleon probably wins, right?

[Great Unclean One: VK]

It's easier to funk Vaporeon then to funk empoleon.

 

I know, I've tried.

[Grunt Issun]

Beastiality!

[Great Unclean One: VK]

Beastiality!

 

Nooo.....

 

All I did, get a Vaporeon plush doll, and funked it.

 

For Empoleon, the same thing.

 

Only difference, Vaporeon feels more right.

[Grunt Issun]

wow...you must be lonley...i mean seriously, go join the circus or somthing

[Βyakuya]

ummm....I see a ban reason.........well, it can be true

[Xazeon]

Oh I see' date=' But lets say it doesnt have hidden power, instead it has hydro pump, now Empoleon probably wins, right?

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Hydro Pump would do anywhere between 45.1% - 53.3% of damage. Since we're assuming Empoleon's not going to switch out, it would use Grass Knot and that would do anywhere between 43.9% - 51.9% of damage. So it all depends on who's faster.

[Grunt Issun]

Hmm, I see. that reminds me, my feraligator once outsped a monferno, or some other fire type, it makes no sense!

[Xazeon]

Hmm' date=' I see. that reminds me, my feraligator once outsped a monferno, or some other fire type, it makes no sense!

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Ferraligatr's base Speed stat is 78 while Monferno's base Speed stat is 81. Monferno was probably at a lower level than Feraligatr.

[Grunt Issun]

Only a few, but I guess that makes all the differance, I think it was like a 5 or 6 level differance

[Eury]

The only thing Vaporeon can do to Empoleon is wall it, and it has trouble doing that.

 

Specs Grass Knot from Empoleon does 45.1% - 53.1% to Standard Wish Support Vaporeon.

 

Vaporeon's Surf is going to do 14.5% - 17.5%, HP [Electric] does 29.6% - 34.9% and Ice Beam only does 4.8% - 5.6%.

 

After Leftovers and a possible Wish, Grass Knot is anywhere between a 2-5HKO.

 

Empoleon is the obvious winner.

[Xazeon]

The only thing Vaporeon can do to Empoleon is wall it' date=' and it has trouble doing that.

 

Specs Grass Knot from Empoleon does 45.1% - 53.1% to Standard Wish Support Vaporeon.

 

Vaporeon's Surf is going to do 14.5% - 17.5%, HP [Electric'] does 29.6% - 34.9% and Ice Beam only does 4.8% - 5.6%.

 

After Leftovers and a possible Wish, Grass Knot is anywhere between a 2-5HKO.

 

Empoleon is the obvious winner.

 

HP Electric only does 29.6% - 34.9% damage? Smogon lied to me then.

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ahh!! two pokemon whose names end in 'eon'!! difficult...choice....

 

ima go with the eeveelution