HORUS Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Master5024, never in any duel i have played, have i EVER run out of cards in my deck. never. logmon, if youre playing those cards, you are NOT going to win. bad. Byakuya, i wasnt saying you were bad, i was saying i beat you. JemJosher, if you cant beat a dark magician deck, you are having problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Dragon90 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I think having more then 40 cards is a fine thing, if the other cards work in your deck. I think the ideal deck has 40-55 cards in it, I have a friend who has around or over 50 cards in his deck and he's invincible, I've never been able to beat him, I think my other friends have struggled to beat him as well. I admit you can win faster with a smaller deck, but you also use up your cards faster and you can also some situations can come up where there's nothing in your deck because you strictly said "Oh no can't have more than 43 in my deck, I might not beat my opponent in 5 turns this time!" Also your card number can depend on the playing style of your deck, for example if you are more defensive player who likes to make yourself impossible to attack and then waits for your opponent to watse his good cards then having more cards might be a good thing. I just think the number of cards in your deck is a matter of what kind of player you are, some people like to win fast, others slow, and some people just like the cards they have, if they win like that there is nothing wrong with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 for those of you who say that someone they know has a 50+ card deck and that you cant beat them, that means both your and your friend's deck suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Dragon90 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 for those of you who say that someone they know has a 50+ card deck and that you cant beat them' date=' that means both your and your friend's deck suck.[/quote'] That is a matter of opinion Horus, it's similiar to when you said "If you can't beat a Dark Magican Deck you suck." That's where you go over the line, saying people and their decks suck when you haven't even dueled them before is ignorant and stupid, wish I could duel you to shut you up, but I can't because I don't like Gameking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 welllll the thing is that it is NOT my opinion that 50+ card decks are worse than 40 card decks, it is a fact that they do not do as well. and dont give me the "a 50 card gadget deck would beat a 40 card random deck" if you play a meta styled deck with 40 cards, it will be better than a meta styled deck with 50 cards. say you have a Monarch deck with 40 cards. if you add 10 cards, it will not be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Dragon90 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Wow Horus, you just keep on sounding more and more ignorant and my respect for your opinion is fading, okay Horus how about this, in my structure deck it gives advice on how you can beef up your deck and if you added those cards you would have at least 50, and if 40 was really the way to go then the rule book would probably say you need at 40, but you can have as many as you want, but using around 40-45 is the ideal amount of cards you should have for a greater success rate." But it doesn't and don't say "they don't say that because they want you to buy more cards" weak excuse, no deck is ever perfect, unless you've really found an unstoppable way of winning (Which is pretty much impossible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Slime Lord Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 While no one is forcing anyone to use 40 card decks, its just recommended. If you don't want to take the advice, don't take it. No problem. I have tried using a 50 card deck and a 40 card. I've used a 50 card deck for the longest time, and as someone who as used both, I can tell you that 40 card decks are much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 speed dragon, it says that because the target audience for structure decks are young children who are new to the game, who dont know 40 is better. look, i'm not forcing anyone to play with less cards, i'm saying its better. you can play however you like. but you will get flamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serrenox Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 speed dragon' date=' it says that because the target audience for structure decks are young children who are new to the game, who dont know 40 is better. look, i'm not forcing anyone to play with less cards, i'm saying its better. you can play however you like. [b']but you will get flamed.[/b] Which is breaking a rule of YCM. I totally agree with you on the 40-card-decks, but don't flame people for their opinion... You surely couldn't of thought that everybody would agree with you... But yeah, smaller decks allow you to draw faster, but larger decks may have better/more combos as it has more cards to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 okay...we wont flame...we will harshly criticize xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Dragon90 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Listen Horus all I am trying to say is that degrading someone's deck just because they have 1 or 2 more cards then you would like in yours is not something that should be considered a major thing on how people should think of their deck and yes I know this has been said before it takes the fun out of the game when you have to count your cards to make sure you don't have more then 40. Please enough of the "it's not my opinion it's fact!" stuff, because when it comes down to it it really is your opinion because if it was true you would not have encountered this much opposition. Finally I would encourage you to not judge a book by it's cover or I guess I should say don't judge a deck by it's card number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 if you have like 45 or 47 or something its fine. its 60+ card decks i have a problem with. i like this: Please enough of the "it's not my opinion it's fact!" stuff, because when it comes down to it it really is your opinion because if it was true you would not have encountered this much opposition. just because there is more opposition, doesnt mean its not true. maybe everyone else is wrong??? like, if there was 20 people in a room, and 15 of them thought the sky was red, is it true? no. but actually, if you go to more advanced player forums, everyone uses decks of less than 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 yeah but you run outta cards faster. this is the WORST argument against 40 cards decks... if you play with a LOT of drawing cards (i.e. 3 dekoichis, 2 pot of avarice and 3 crystal seer) and throwing your hand like a dumb, obviously you'll run out of deck... but if you play smartand you don't set all your cards at once, you'll never be run out, except against my deckout deck ^^ i don't see the point of defending the undefendible, a deck with 10 strategies means that you always will draw half of one strategy, and pieces of two or three more... so if you have so much faith on a deck like that, use it on local tourneys or a SJC and tell me your standings... and i'll tell you my standings on my locals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Dragon90 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 if you have like 45 or 47 or something its fine. its 60+ card decks i have a problem with. Now we can finally agree on something I also actually have a problem with 60+ card decks, I try to limit my cards to 50, 60 is way to many. EDIT: I just thought about this a little more and I've decided acutally I kinda agree with you now Horus, I just remembered how a could get to the cards I really wanted when I was just starting out, so actually I think I need to do a little adjusting to my decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 okay just remember...we're going easy on you. on real forums for advanced forums, you post a top class apprentice monarch deck with treeborn frog, and you add in call of the haunted, they will rate it badly just because of the call of the haunted. thats how it is in the advanced player's world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Slime Lord Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Not to sound like a n00b, but what is so bad about Call of the Haunted in an Apprentice Monarch Deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 ah. glad someone asked. call of the haunted is a continuous trap card, so when youve got treeborn in the grave, you wont be able to summon it, and you lose the huge advantage treeborn frog gives you. i did at one point run call in my apprentice monarch until eli told me not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Im suprized noone asked what circle was yet, anyways i dont even bother with call in my main deck, mostly because i don't even bother with the graveyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logmon1 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 My current deck has 60+, threw in some cards earlier. But, It works. You know why? Every card has at least one or two combos I can pull off with any other card. Hell, earlier today a won a duel without even DRAWING a single monster at all. I kept my opponent from attack with cards like Dark Door and Threatening roar while they wasted their lifepoints with things like premature burial to pull off these "Uber Combos" Just Deserts, the end, done. P.S. I have 18 traps, some doubles. Draining Shield> You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted January 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Draining Shield, Dark Door, and Just Desserts suck. the only reason you could possibly be winning is that your opponent sucks worse than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logmon1 Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 How the hell does Draining Shield and Dark Door suck? Especially when you have two of both in your deck. Just deserts is only used on those people who place a bunch of face-up defense mode monsters and think they're "god-like" I really hate people who use 3000 DEF monsters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted January 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Saku is 4 to 5 times better than Draining Shield, and the dark door is easily destroyed, or bypassed. 3000 DEF monsters are worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logmon1 Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 I don't have Saku, hell, I don't even have a polymerization, traded it for a Miorror force, which was then stolen from me. Also, I don't have the money to go out and buy cards, too busy saving up for a 360. I got a Rise of the Dragon Lords Structer dect for christmas. First new cards in six years or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted January 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 what use is polymerization and why would someone trade mirror force for a worthless common card? i dont even buy cards, i trade for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 P.S. I have 18 traps' date=' some doubles. Draining Shield> You[/quote'] 1 jinzo/royal decree = 18 useless cards... even e-hero wildheart or tenkabito can make your life painful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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