Fall From Grace(WC10)

[liljramos88]

This is my Darklord deck i hope you like it it needs help it seems that its missing something. Please Fix!!!

 

Monsters(20)

2 Archlord Kristya

2 Athena

1 Chaos Sorcerer

1 DAD

2 Dark Grepher

2 Darklord Asmodeus

1 Darklord Superbia

1 Darklord Zerato

2 Dimensional Alchemist

1 Hecatrice

2 Honest

1 PoC

1 The Dark Creator

1 Ryko

 

Spells(15)

1 Allure

1 BfaDD

1 D.D.R

1 Heavy Strom

3 Mausoleum

1 MST

1 Terraforming

3 Trade-In

3 Valhalla

 

Traps(5)

1 CoTH

1 M-Force

1 RftDD

1 Solemn

1 TT

[Tronta]

so much deaddrawing. too many fatties.

[liljramos88]

Wat should I add,negate,or main?

[SephirothKirby]

You are running 15 monsters that are unplayable by themselves in opening hand.

 

That's more than a third of the Deck.

 

Although there are a lot of great Level 7+ Fairies, it is necessary to slim it down.

 

On that note, Hecatrice : Valhalla is 1 : 1.

[liljramos88]

Ok so wat would be a good number of high level monsters to have on my deck. I will like to keep both vahalla and maselioum

[Tronta]

You are running 15 monsters that are unplayable by themselves in opening hand.

 

That's more than a third of the Deck.

 

Although there are a lot of great Level 7+ Fairies' date=' it is necessary to slim it down.

 

On that note, Hecatrice : Valhalla is 1 : 1.

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lolwut? no. it runs like a terraforming and field spell would. 1:2, or potentially 1:3

[liljramos88]

Ok thanks so wat should I add and remove from my deck

[SephirothKirby]

You are running 15 monsters that are unplayable by themselves in opening hand.

 

That's more than a third of the Deck.

 

Although there are a lot of great Level 7+ Fairies' date=' it is necessary to slim it down.

 

On that note, Hecatrice : Valhalla is 1 : 1.

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lolwut? no. it runs like a terraforming and field spell would. 1:2, or potentially 1:3

 

I disagree. Field Spells are very different things, and not all of them are game changing. Hecatrice is still perfectly viable as a monster (albeit below par), and Valhalla is arguably the most crucial card in the Deck. Every "fatty" is borderline useless without its ability to Special Summon, and if you could run 6, you probably would (well actually you probably wouldn't) but the fact that I can run 3, and put 3 more cards in that act as a 1500 ATK LIGHT Fairy that ensure any time I need Valhalla, I can get it, is okay with me.

 

Kristya + Valhalla in Opening can win games.

[Tronta]

oh i see. you meant a 1:1 ratio, not 1-1 as specific numbers.

the conservative build on hec-val is 1-2, but if you're running a larger number of fatties and have a greater dependency, you can go to 2-2 or 2-3, yeah.

 

kristya+valhalla opening may be gamewinning, but topdecking a superfluous valhalla or hecatrice at a bad time can be gamelosing. playing it conservatively is usually better. but if youre running this many you really need 2-2, 1-3 or 2-3.

[liljramos88]

Thanks for clearing. That up.whhat about the mister line up it needs work.

[Tronta]

lets do some math!

with 15/40 cards in your deck being highlevel monsters, the chance of drawing one at any time is, of course, 15/40. roughly speaking of course.

 

the probability of drawing a starting hand consisting entirely of fat monsters is..

15/40 * 14/39 * 13/38 * 12/37 * 11/36 * 10/35

roughly.

which is..

.0013

low chance, but consider that the probability of getting any given starting hand is 1/40*1/39*etc= 3.618E-10. so several hundred possible hands consist entirely of fatties.

furthermore, the odds of getting 2 or 3 fatties in any given starting hand are pretty high. and thats pretty bad.

 

speaking of which, lets do the math on hands where you get at least one summonable monster in the beginning.

1- P(0), where P(0) is the probability of getting 0 normal summonable monsters.

/cracks knuckles

P(0) = (5c0)((40-5)c(6-0))/(40c6)

=(35c6)/(40c6)

=1623160/3838380

=.422

that means that 42% of the time, you will not draw a monster you can summon in your starting hand.

 

1-P(0) = .578

so about 58% of the time you will get at least one.

 

 

those.

odds.

blow.

 

so does my stats, but the numbers are about right i think.

 

 

so looking at your spells, i see mausoleums, terra, valhalla, tradein, hecatrice, etc. now i'm not running the numbers because i'm apathetic, but i would hazard a guess that all of these will only buff your chances of making a play involving a monster on your opening hand to like... 70-90% (keep in mind all of those are combination oriented). and even then, that's awful, because to make those plays you're paying out the ass for lifepoints or hand advantage (see mausoleum).

 

in short, this deck blows.

[liljramos88]

What advice can u give me on an darklord deck I have no idea what to remove?

[Tronta]

3 Archlord Kristya

1 Athena

1 Chaos Sorcerer

1 DAD

2 Darklord Asmodeus

2 Darklord Superbia

2 Darklord Zerato

2 Dimensional Alchemist

2 Hecatrice

1 PoC

2 Tethys

1 The Dark Creator

 

 

is what you have. you'll only ever need 1 superbia, so knock one off. asmodeus doesnt help enough to even be included. and kristya cycles herself so knock it to 2. and probably only one zerato.

 

that being said, try dark grepher, or armageddon knight. they help mill out your darks to where it's easier to recover them via athena/creator/coth.

[liljramos88]

Thank u so much for your idea(your great!).I will change asap.any ideas on the spell and traps.

[liljramos88]

i made changes i may have made the deck worst. so please let me know how it needs help.

[Tronta]

drop 1 hecatrice, you dont need 2. use the space for another grepher or a ryko.

[The ReBeL]

destiny hero dasher and ryko would work wonders in here. maybe a necro garnda and lv eater

[liljramos88]

ok i added Ryko. any other changes? if i do add d-hero dasher what would i negate?

[The ReBeL]

Alchemist or a mausleum

[liljramos88]

ok thanks for the help what do u think of the spells and traps?

[Tronta]

dasher? i dunno.

sheet this isnt my kind of deck anyway. i'm sure there's better help around here somewhere.

[liljramos88]

thanks any other ideas?

[liljramos88]

Bump Any ideas for a side deck