TMD (Barushi) Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Updated. -19- Blazewing Butterfly 3Dandylion 2Dark Valkyria 2Future Samurai 3Gigaplant 3Orichalcos Shunoros 2Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter 1Tuned Magician 3 -12- Black Garden 3Book of Moon 2Gemini Spark 2Giant Trunade 1Mystical Space Typhoon 1Silent Doom 2Terraforming 1 -9- Bottomless Trap Hole 2Call of the Haunted 1Interdimensional Matter Transport 2Mirror Force 1Solemn Judgment 1Starlight Road 1Ultimate Offering 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMD (Barushi) Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Bump. Updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 - black garden + hand destruction+ryko-oricalcos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMD (Barushi) Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 - black garden + hand destruction+ryko-oricalcos Reasons why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 ryko mill for monsters for samurais effect. he gets to detroy a card you control' hand destruction for more draw power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 - black garden + hand destruction+ryko-oricalcos Reasons why? I agree with him, more or less. See, the problem with Geminis + Shunoros is that the former are trying to become Effect Monsters as quickly as possible, while the latter works with Normal Monsters. Not only does that impede the summoning of Shunoros, it also means those monsters aren't protected by his effect. Now I'm not saying that it's bad to include Shunoros, but that he needs to be used more sparingly. And...Ryko is Ryko. As for Black Garden, your deck doesn't rely on it too much. I'm not sure if Hand Destruction is what you want to include - I was thinking maybe Heavy Storm/Giant Trunade - and then I noticed you already have Trunade. How did I miss that? Anyway, Hand Destruction would probably be better if you had more monsters, since that's usually what you want to discard with it. Now that I think about it, you could neg Black Garden and put in another monster, like Evocator Chevalier, perhaps? On the other hand, you'd have no use for its effect, so you could just replace it with a real Vanilla instead, and make it an Allure target, too. So then...Mad Dog of Darkness/Archfiend Soldier (one of those has more DEF). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMD (Barushi) Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 - black garden + hand destruction+ryko-oricalcos Reasons why? I agree with him' date=' more or less. See, the problem with Geminis + Shunoros is that the former are trying to become Effect Monsters as quickly as possible, while the latter works with Normal Monsters. Not only does that impede the summoning of Shunoros, it also means those monsters aren't protected by his effect. Now I'm not saying that it's bad to include Shunoros, but that he needs to be used more sparingly. And...Ryko is Ryko. As for Black Garden, your deck doesn't rely on it too much. I'm not sure if Hand Destruction is what you want to include - I was thinking maybe Heavy Storm/Giant Trunade - and then I noticed you already have Trunade. How did I miss that? Anyway, Hand Destruction would probably be better if you had more monsters, since that's usually what you want to discard with it. Now that I think about it, you could neg Black Garden and put in another monster, like Evocator Chevalier, perhaps? On the other hand, you'd have no use for its effect, so you could just replace it with a real Vanilla instead, and make it an Allure target, too. So then...Mad Dog of Darkness/Archfiend Soldier (one of those has more DEF).[/quote'] I only use them as effect monsters when I need them to be. I can choose whether to make them effect monsters or not. So if I summon Shunoros to the field I can protect the gemini monsters that aren't effect monsters with his effect. I'll neg one though for Ryko, because I can't always rely on Shunoros and I get him to my hand more often than I get the geminis that I need. Actually it does, it's needed for Shunoros as Tokens get summoned to their field when I summon and although it kind of conflicts with Shunoros' effect I can always Trunade it, or set another Black Rose Garden to get rid of the field and wait for my opponent to attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 so i would take out a caius for an archfiend soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMD (Barushi) Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 so i would take out a caius for an archfiend soldier. lol why? they're both dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Monsters:22Blazewing Butterfly x3Dark Valkieria x3Caius the Shadow Monarch x2Future Samurai x3Honest x2Shining Angel x2Energy Bravery x2Knight of the Red Lotus x2Tune Magician x3 Spells:10Hand Destruction Allure of DarknessGemini Spark x2TrunadeHeavy StormSmashing x3Nobleman of Crossout Traps:8Bottomless x2Starlight x2Dark BribeUltimate OfferingMirror ForceDust Tornado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMD (Barushi) Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Monsters:22Blazewing Butterfly x3Dark Valkieria x3Caius the Shadow Monarch x2Future Samurai x3Honest x2Shining Angel x2Energy Bravery x2Knight of the Red Lotus x2Tune Magician x3 Spells:10Hand Destruction Allure of DarknessGemini Spark x2TrunadeHeavy StormSmashing x3Nobleman of Crossout Traps:8Bottomless x2Starlight x2Dark BribeUltimate OfferingMirror ForceDust Tornado It wouldn't be called Shunoros Garden then. =/ anyways im updating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 k thats cool i was posting this to see what u though lol. RED LOTUS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMD (Barushi) Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 k thats cool i was posting this to see what u though lol. RED LOTUS? Hm.. Never thought of him. Has nice stats and I can just tribute set him and flip summon him the next turn.. hm.. me likes. dunno what to take out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 maybe a saggiand i was talking about the special summoning ability KNIGHT OF THE RED LOTUS LOOKS LIKE A GEMINI ARMAGEDDON KNIGHT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMD (Barushi) Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 maybe a saggiand i was talking about the special summoning ability KNIGHT OF THE RED LOTUS LOOKS LIKE A GEMINI ARMAGEDDON KNIGHT I know, but if I SS it it'll get it's attack halved, but they do get a token so.. hm.. I'll test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Why Saggi? Do you not have any other DARK Normal Monsters? And did you have Terraforming in there before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMD (Barushi) Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Why Saggi? Do you not have any other DARK Normal Monsters? And did you have Terraforming in there before? Yeah. It's the only normal monster I have lol. Thought it might help with getting Black Rose out to nuke the field. Plus it's an allure target. Yes. I had it in there before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMD (Barushi) Posted June 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Updated again. Need help figuring out what to take out for Pollinosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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