seattleite Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 It was very close for the 90+ ones. :DWell' date=' yeah, you could probably say my SSJ4 materials are a bit OPed - if you have appropriate cards to use that.I'm not so knowledgable in ALL new cards - or even ALL old ones...But I'd say I never saw anything like the "SS-Gemini" effect I gave these cards - not just "quite unique". :DAre you SO sure about basic vs original???I didn't just take this wording from the ceiling... - I did see it somewhere.Erm, did you "try" to summon "full-power" Gogeta???It's quite hard to do, I'd say. :DFinishing note - OK, it's your contest, so you're the judge. :D[/quote'] I am 100% sure that it is original ATK. You might have seen that as older OCG on an older card, but it isn't correct.Your cards didn't get full points for creativity because even though I haven't seen that effect much (the requirement of SS to get ATK) , the actual effect didn't have much depth to it. It seemed you wanted to create a simple high ATK monster but that also wouldn't be destroyed so easily, so you said it would be unaffected by S/T cards. If you wanted something that couldn't be destroyed as easily but was still creative I would recommend placing "counters" on the card, preventing it from being destroyed by removing a counter, or maybe something with battle positions. Those are only a few of the ideas. And for Gogeta, I don't put into account of difficulty to summon as much as potential. This card has the potential to completly beast and maybe OTK with megamorph or the like, and your opponent can't really do anything. Yes, it was very very close between you guys! You all did a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRenji Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Thanks, man. This contest was cool. Yeah, I think my 2nd one's draw effect might be too OP'd. Anyway awesome contest! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleite Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Thanks YamiGriffin. I can't give out that many reps a day so it might take some time for you to get your reps guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koshej Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 I am 100% sure that it is original ATK. You might have seen that as older OCG on an older card' date=' but it isn't correct.Your cards didn't get full points for creativity because even though I haven't seen that effect much (the requirement of SS to get ATK) , the actual effect didn't have much depth to it. It seemed you wanted to create a simple high ATK monster but that also wouldn't be destroyed so easily, so you said it would be unaffected by S/T cards. If you wanted something that couldn't be destroyed as easily but was still creative I would recommend placing "counters" on the card, preventing it from being destroyed by removing a counter, or maybe something with battle positions. Those are only a few of the ideas. And for Gogeta, I don't put into account of difficulty to summon as much as potential. This card has the potential to completly beast and maybe OTK with megamorph or the like, and your opponent can't really do anything. Yes, it was very very close between you guys! You all did a good job.[/quote']OK, whatever.I just wanted to create a "SS Gemini" effect - regardless what it really did to the card.So it's not the +ATK or immunity that matters for me - but rather the "double summon"...:POn a side question:OK, imagine I took away the +1000 ATK thing and still left the immunity, - would it then be better in your opinion???I also could give all the SSJ4's a similar effect to Gogeta's - like "Power" counters or constant LP payment to keep the card.To sum up - do you know that it took me like 5 minutes to make all 3 cards - well, not including the time I spent on looking for nicer pics? :DGood contest anyways. :DWaiting for more challenge! 8) 8) 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANBU Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Tachikoma Version 1.0Usefulness 9/10 (It’s a nice effect and goes well with your set. Although very good for fusions it has little use outside of that) yeah that's kinda where i was going with that ^^'Balanced 10/10 (Yeah' date=' nothing wrong here.) Creativity 8/10 (I like the effect, but it is almost copied from Fusion Gate) [b']lol i didn't even look at any cards when doing it..[/b]OCG is 4/5 (The wording could be made SO MUCH easier and be cut down a lot. Instead of ”show your Opponent 1 card in your hand. If the shown card was a Machine-type monster”, just put “show 1 Machine-Type monster in your hand.” ..yeah I forgot about that.. Also “Once per turn if there is a Machine-type monster on your side of the Field..” can be removed because tachikoma is a machine monster) ...i forgot to include the (excluding this card) clause.. yeah.. i made it as kinda a fusion tech.. I guess the fusions effect was kinda weak.. lol maybe up it to this card's Original ATK? since your gonna need to pay lifepoints in most of the non-banned SS from Graveyard cards anyway.. anyway first card contest i won ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleite Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 OK' date=' whatever.I just wanted to create a "SS Gemini" effect - regardless what it really did to the card.So it's not the +ATK or immunity that matters for me - but rather the "double summon"...:POn a side question:OK, imagine I took away the +1000 ATK thing and still left the immunity, - would it then be better in your opinion??? [b']It would get a better score for balance, but not creativity.[/b]I also could give all the SSJ4's a similar effect to Gogeta's - like "Power" counters or constant LP payment to keep the card. Yeah, just be careful with that. Look at what I said about Gogeta.To sum up - do you know that it took me like 5 minutes to make all 3 cards - well, not including the time I spent on looking for nicer pics? :D So does that mean you think you deserve your score?Good contest anyways. :DWaiting for more challenge! 8) 8) 8) Don't worry, I will probably have more contests in the future ;) . Probably not giving out points but reps, definately. And thanks for being a good sport about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedFlameApe Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 u said they cant support any existing archetype. shadowfire isnt an existing archetype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleite Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 u said they cant support any existing archetype. shadowfire isnt an existing archetype ...which is why I accepted them. Here's the deal Seto. You submitted an archetype' date=' outside the TCG, which there isn't anything wrong with, but both your cards said they needed to be SS by another Shadowfire Monster, and neither could Special Summon shadow fire monsters (except the first one, which could only summon itself. But what would summon the first copy?) I looked up your thread and took those into account [b']as an exception[/b], normally your cards would have been deemed unsummonable and gotten like a 1/10 for usefulness and a low Synergy score. Next time, if you're gonna submit an archetype, make sure everything those cards need are in the ones you submit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koshej Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 OK' date=' whatever.I just wanted to create a [b']"SS Gemini" effect[/b] - regardless what it really did to the card.So it's not the +ATK or immunity that matters for me - but rather the "double summon"...:POn a side question:OK, imagine I took away the +1000 ATK thing and still left the immunity, - would it then be better in your opinion??? It would get a better score for balance, but not creativity. Does it mean you still don't appreciate my "Special Gemini" idea???I also could give all the SSJ4's a similar effect to Gogeta's - like "Power" counters or constant LP payment to keep the card. Yeah, just be careful with that. Look at what I said about Gogeta. Actually, Gogeta wasn't SO powerful - all you need is a constant Level 4- Summoning - and I'm stuck with using OTHER monsters to attack you. Not to mention such a simple thing like Scapegoat...To sum up - do you know that it took me like 5 minutes to make all 3 cards - well, not including the time I spent on looking for nicer pics? :D So does that mean you think you deserve your score? I like that I got so much in general - but I hoped for a bit better.:lol:Good contest anyways. :DWaiting for more challenge! 8) 8) 8) Don't worry, I will probably have more contests in the future ;) . Probably not giving out points but reps, definately. And thanks for being a good sport about it. WAITING!!! 8) 8) 8) Oh, and about Gogeta.The CARD is unaffected - but the DAMAGE is not!So if you have good damage counters - Gogeta is much less of a threat. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleite Posted June 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 "Does it mean you still don't appreciate my "Special Gemini" idea???"I do. That's why it got an 8/10. That is good.---- "Actually, Gogeta wasn't SO powerful - all you need is a constant Level 4- Summoning - and I'm stuck with using OTHER monsters to attack you. Not to mention such a simple thing like Scapegoat..."I don't take into account what your opponent might be able to do as much as the card itself. -----Oh, and about Gogeta.The CARD is unaffected - but the DAMAGE is not!So if you have good damage counters - Gogeta is much less of a threat. :D Again, combine with rainbow life, tribute Gogeta, etc. It's easy to get aroundl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleite Posted June 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 All right, If no one has any more questions or anything Im going to get this thread locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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