Tronta Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 1 mojo1 sangan2 needle worm2 giant rat3 volcanic shell2 library11 3 shallow grave3 eclipse3 moon3 taiyou3 upstart2 hand dest1 card dest1 foolish2 mse1 poa1 trunade3 void2 guard penalty28 2 desert sunlight2 deck 41 so this is in its own little topic because i felt it was a different version. also because this is probably going to be the new model. i still need to test it more, but yea. basically i tried to include some standard otk elements in it, like library and void. i'm not sure how that will play out, but as a tradeoff i dumped all the wabokus and stalls. i might even drop a rat for that acid back. i think i might need it. the deck title this time is Flip Hate. because people tend to hate flips. and because it sounds cool. thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 I am just wondering if you will be decking yourself faster than your opponent with the new Library engine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbidden_card Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 i have deck that my deck for to clean up your opponent deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Quote i have deck that my deck for to clean up your opponent deck What...? At least try to make it semi-understandable... Now GTFO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenharu Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Quote i have deck that my deck for to clean up your opponent deck Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted May 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 <3 this topic already library is a controlled draw. if i'm getting too close to the end, i dont have to use it. plus i feel like it will only be good for another +2 per game, given the frequency of eclipses going off.i've only actually tested this in two games, but it won both times. against inferinities and blackwings. i'm loving void and library! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted May 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 edit:after watching a few games play out, i want to give feather of the phoenix a shot. what to drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenharu Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 Drop a Rat? You were thinking about dropping it for Acid anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dek Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 I always find Thunder to be better than shell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted May 28, 2010 Report Share Posted May 28, 2010 I prefer shell myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted May 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 i dunno. honestly i dont want to mess with the jar search engine. its pretty solid. and i prefer shell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted May 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 bump so with duality and AD changer coming, what should i remove to fit in these new sexy cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I don't know...I dueled this deck...now i hate you....kind of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted June 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 ~<3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Where the F- is Penguin Soldier? He's like, the most pimpin' troll in the tri-county area! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 This looks so inconsistent. You don't prefer Straight Trolling to OTKing? I guess I'll test and come back with results. EDIT: Opening Hand: Magical Stone Excavation, Magical Stone Excavation, Pot of Avarice, Thunder Dragon, Night Assailant, Desert Sunlight -> Book of Taiyou -> Book of Moon -> Hand Destruction { The Shallow Grave, Book of Eclipse } I lost to Beastsworn. Opening Hand: Morphing Jar, Thunder Dragon, Book of Moon, Sangan, Book of Eclipse, Hand Destruction { Giant Rat, Book of Eclipse } -> Hand Destruction. Turn 2 Flipped Morphing Jar, got hit with Chariot. I lost to Gladiator Beasts I much prefer consistency over this jank. No motivation for further testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted June 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 i dont run thunder dragons. i dont quite see what youre doing. it is inconsistent, but mill decks suck balls unless they kill within a turn. giving them a partial mill of 10-20 cards is like giving them the game in this meta. you have to swing for the game right off the bat. in your first game you got a crappy hand. odds of drawing both mse's at the start are terrible. and honestly any deck has bad draws. using two test hands, especially one where you got chariot'd, is hardly a valid test. i like consistency, but i dont find any progress to be had in a slow mill. if you have ideas for making the otk more consistent, that would be lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I prefer Thunder Dragon to Shell, that was the only change. Max Hand Destruction? Dark World Dealings? Rock Bombardment? Spear Cretin? Those are really the only things that could make Morphing Jar more accessible. I still like Waboku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 i was thinking of readding the wabokus to pump to 42. i havent killed myself yet, but i've been cutting it rather close. maxing hand dests in previous tests and been found too minusy.theres no room for dwd if i'm not maxing hand dest.rock bombardment is too slow.spear cretin is simply problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 I love max Hand Destruction in all of my Flip Trolls; it isn't a minus if it gives you enough boost to pull of Jar + Taiyou. How about Citadel? I don't know, at some point it becomes pointless to run this over Blasting the Ruins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 the problem with blasting the ruins is that i'd have to run all 3. which means i'd have to hang on to every one i get. i can run explosion with it... but i just see many situations happenw here i'm funked. plus then i'm not taking full advantage of the shallows. if i run 3 hand dest, what do i drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted June 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 bump!found sweet new tech! check page one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted June 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 no one likes this tech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 best idea for a tech ever no joke does it own as much as it looks like it must? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted June 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 i havent tested it much, but i feel as though its a definite two-of. otherwise i could see it being deaddrawy. the one game i ran it in, it turned a morphing jar activation into a draw 7.seriously, library with jar on the field, guard-taiyou-moon. draw 5, draw 1, draw 1. +0's are sexy. this does get best tech award, right above acid trap hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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