Nexev Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 No I mean the other soul societies aren't mounting an offense. Anyway I think Kenpachi might have been Maeda Toshimasu. Wild guess though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 No I mean the other soul societies aren't mounting an offense. The other soul societies might not know, for various reasons. The Vasto Lorde are keeping the flow of souls constant, for feeding reasons, so there's no noticeable difference. We know from the Japanese Soul Society that there isn't much interaction between the different SS's, so everything might have passed for normal. Or we could take it one step further and say that all the other Soul Societies have already succumbed to the disease and are doing the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 There is something else of importance. Hollows don't cause dumbness, so if the SS is hollowfied they'd be just as smart. Which means nothing more than it's going to be really hard to survive the hollowification. Probbaly be like a bioshock thing. Of course that is not really an argument, just a statement. But are they hollows, or vizards? If they are Vizards all that's different is the magic mushroom. But how come no one needed the Hoy... mcguffin to make vizards? Aizen didn't have it in Pendulum, Urahara didn't use it on Ichigo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 The disease as outlined in the previous posts alters your reiryoku directly, turning you into a Hollow with Shinigami powers. The "black reiryoku" can either be inserted directly by a Vasto Lorde's Cero Negros ("black Cero", if you couldn't guess) or through an affected person's reiatsu. This reiatsu intertwines with your own, corrupting it until you are overwhelmed. It is this that causes the contagiousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Wouldn't a Cero kill them? So it might need a different attack name. Anyway, I assume this effects personallity. To what scale? In addition does it hinder intelligence? If not the hollows would probbaly build a twisted mockery of Soul Society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Wouldn't a Cero kill them? So it might need a different attack name. Anyway' date=' I assume this effects personallity. To what scale? In addition does it hinder intelligence? If not the hollows would probbaly build a twisted mockery of Soul Society.[/quote'] It's a different type of Cero, one that bypasses the spirit and targets the reiryoku itself. But I guess that warrants a different name. To answer both of your questions: It would cause severe emotional turmoil. Compare it to Ichigo's struggle against his inner hollow and imagine going through that constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Ah, so not a straight takeover. I think MAyuri will be normal though. After all, it's Mayuri, he'd probbaly capture the inner hollow for study. What's scary is that he's a complete monster and still got into Soul Society. Meaning he wasn't always that evil. Something changed him. Same for Aizen, though funk him. Gin I am not even sure is evil, it would be way to obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Severe emotional turmoil combined with a lack of self-control. Yes, it's not a complete, 100% takeover from the start, but it can easily become one. It's what happens in most cases. In Mayuri's case, it does look like he was always like that. They probably let him in out of necessity. The guy still creeps me out, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baragon Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Right. I've hit 50 posts. Do I need to repost my application, or...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signosis Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Right. I've hit 50 posts. Do I need to repost my application' date=' or...?[/quote'] Heck no! Welcome to the Organization, buddy! Glad to have ya here, I really am. xD So far the topic is on what the background of the rp is going to be based on...which I haven't commented on. xD @topic: Well, why can't it be like one of those stories where you go after the bad guys, but they just turn out to be pawns right after the other, never really finding the true bad guy. xD On second thought, that might take forever, but we could play a little Death Note into this. xD What I mean is that Mayuri found the disease, but on purpose, not by chance. But I guess what I'm trying to get at is that I don't want Mayuri as the main bad guy...it'd be too easy, ya know? ...The disease reminds me of Aizen's hollowfication experiments (and a bit of the Sigma virus), only that the subjects go through more of a hell than the Visards. Too cliched... but I guess it could tie into the world war idea that was presented earlier. Ooo, Native American Shinigamis... xD If I suddenly have any ideas or spoofs, I'll let y'all know. Btw, my hotmail username is [email protected]. You could find it on my profile, but meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted May 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Right. I've hit 50 posts. Do I need to repost my application' date=' or...?[/quote'] Heck no! Welcome to the Organization, buddy! Glad to have ya here, I really am. xD So far the topic is on what the background of the rp is going to be based on...which I haven't commented on. xD @topic: Well, why can't it be like one of those stories where you go after the bad guys, but they just turn out to be pawns right after the other, never really finding the true bad guy. Typical, and stupid. xD On second thought, that might take forever, but we could play a little Death Note into this. Ha, no. Death Note and Bleach should never meet, and they never will. xD What I mean is that Mayuri found the disease, but on purpose, not by chance. We're making Mayuri create the disease. Okay? What the funk does that have to do with a notebook of death? But I guess what I'm trying to get at is that I don't want Mayuri as the main bad guy...it'd be too easy, ya know? In what way? Mayuri is the Captain of all Intelligence through Soul Society. He could easily funk with their communications and cause havoc throughout it's entirety. Go re-read Bleach or something. ...The disease reminds me of Aizen's hollowfication experiments (and a bit of the Sigma virus), only that the subjects go through more of a hell than the Visards. Too cliched... Because Vizards = Hollows as a whole right? >_> but I guess it could tie into the world war idea that was presented earlier. Ooo, Native American Shinigamis... xD If I suddenly have any ideas or spoofs, I'll let y'all know. You do that. Btw, my hotmail username is [email protected]. You could find it on my profile, but meh. Severe emotional turmoil combined with a lack of self-control. Yes' date=' it's not a complete, 100% takeover from the start, but it can easily become one. It's what happens in most cases. In Mayuri's case, it does look like he was always like that. They probably let him in out of necessity. The guy still creeps me out, though.[/quote'] He creeps me out too, but in an epic sorta "he's pretty awesome" way. The first bit you posted though reminded me of THE GUY IN MY AVATAR. =D Anyway, if we have Mayuri create the virus, instead of stumbling upon it via another SS, would we have him infect another Shinigami of another SS or one within his own SS? Or, stumble upon the other SS and implicate it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Well what Signosis was trying to say is Mayuri being evil would be the least suprising plot event since Gin being evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted May 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Then she should have said that. >_______________> Besides, no one makes for a better villain than he or Histugaya Byakuya. Not Zaraki, because, while he has combat sense, he's a little. . . . stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Wait about... FISHBONE D!!!!!!!!!! NO ONE SUSPECTS THE FIRST ANTAGONIST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted May 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Omg, that would be lulzy. But then it'd be a comedy RP. And most comedy RPs are stupid. But we could toss him in randomly.Before I forget, Baragon, you've been enlisted as a Vice-Captain under the Third Squadron. Your commander (Gin Ichimaru) is Skuldur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 If you so desperately want a definite villain, the leader of the Vasto Lorde in my alpha-plot qualifies. We could say he was the one who created the Cero Negros and was the first to establish control over it once he affected himself. He's the one who's been gathering up a bunch of souls just for a snack. Heck, we could even have him affect Mayuri directly and then throw him (Mayuri) back into Seireitei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signosis Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 How about it's an experiment gone wrong, rather than having Mayuri as the main villain (thank you Nexev for explaining it to Eros -- I haven't been able to get on at all in awhile). So! It's a disease or whatever that has a mind of its freakin own -- and it can control people and leave eggs in them if the experiment has any use of them in the future. It kind of reminds me of Baby off of DBZ GT, but it doesn't have a form -- it was just a..gel-like substance or something. xD I say Yamamoto is the first victim. :D Then the others could wonder wtf is goin on with him. xD We could tie in the leader of the Vasto Lordes somehow, I'm sure. o.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baragon Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 If you do end up using Mayuri, chances are the first person he'd (intentionally) infect would be Nemu. But yeah, using Mayuri would be played out, and expected. Use Momo, or something unexpected, but justifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Signosis, making it an experiment gone wrong would just lead to an anticlimatic end. I'm personally not liking the egg-laying or the hive-mind. It doesn't really fit Bleach. Had it been an original RP, I would've agreed, but not in Bleach. If you do end up using Mayuri' date=' chances are the first person he'd (intentionally) infect would be Nemu. But yeah, using Mayuri would be played out, and expected. Use Momo, or something unexpected, but justifiable.[/quote'] Using anyone except Mayuri is unjustifiable given the situation. Mayuri doesn't have to be the first to be infected, though. He could send someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andx Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Signosis' date=' making it an experiment gone wrong would just lead to an anticlimatic end. I'm personally not liking the egg-laying or the hive-mind. It doesn't really fit Bleach. Had it been an original RP, I would've agreed, but not in Bleach.[/quote'] I agree, Bleach needs a definite villain. It wouldn't feel right to not have one. Now if we really wanted to be true to Bleach our villain would be impossibly prepared for every situation that could be thought of and even some that can't be thought up. But it does sound like we're really leaning towards Mayuri as the villain. Now personally I'd rather see the hollowfying as something Mayuri has to do to each person as opposed to a disease that people can contract but that would be too much like Aizen making arrancar. The disease does seem to be getting the most attention so I think we should focus in on what ideas we've really liked or leaned towards. We can go off on tangents forever but if this is ever going to happen we need to work with ideas we already have and like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signosis Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Neh, an idea's an idea, though at times not very good. I need to find a balance between sleepiness and hyper, cuz I can't think very good in either of them. D: @Andx: I went through the thread and found: Mayuri is a definite villian, with the possible help of the Vasto Lorde's; the idea of two Soul Societies; the disease, which Umbra describes thoroughly; and having both SS's infected with few surviors. Questions: Who's the other SS? When does the disease/virus strike? If Aizen's still alive, and is a good guy, what happens to the Visards and Urahara? It was due to the Visards becoming what they are in order for him to be exiled. Arguement: I think Urahara would be better for a bad guy -- why? Because everyone trusts and likes the guy! I'm not exactly sure on exactly why yet, but it'd be totally gut renching, in my case. He's got the brains, too.... @Eros: I didn't exactly mean the book, but how the power passed on to one another, when it came to Death Note. But since that's ruled out, it doesn't matter anymore -- just had to clear that up. xD @Umbra: Yeah, anticlimatic is more DBZ, huh? My bad. ^^' (Sorry for the weird posting, but it made sense to me -- simple. o.o') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 @Ero: you underestimate me. MY skill relies on making completly random things make sense and stuff. For example, if I recall Fishbone D was lower bounty then Acidwire, why? Fishbone D managed to kill his family apperantly since he went for Ichigo's. The ansewer is... there are more than one Fishbone D! Fishbone P is a extremely powerful Vasto Lord, but one with the lowest reitsu, what makes him the baddest JABRONI around is his extreme control over it. It's powerful enough that he can refine it to living hollowlike beings and send it to earth so it can get more meals. That was what Fishbone D was, a infintismly small percentage of Fishbone P's power given form. And with this control he can concivable turn Others into Fishbone D's with a sorta similar trick to how Barragan was killed. He sends some Reitsu at the foe, the reitsu mixes and grows by feeding the users Reitsu, and turns them into a hollow. That's why Ichigo has a stronger hollow form than shinigami, also why the Hollow is far more skilled, cause it's Fishbone P controlling him. Ichigo is the origninal Hollow-virus-infected-thing! It may not be used but it does make some sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 And then in the next chapter of the manga, Fishbone kills Aizen! =O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted May 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 If you so desperately want a definite villain' date=' the leader of the Vasto Lorde in my alpha-plot qualifies. We could say he was the one who created the Cero Negros and was the first to establish control over it once he affected himself. He's the one who's been gathering up a bunch of souls just for a snack. Heck, we could even have him affect Mayuri directly and then throw him (Mayuri) back into Seireitei.[/quote'] I'd like to review your character, because I haven't seen him myself. Post it here if you don't mind. Though I like the thought. Signosis' date=' making it an experiment gone wrong would just lead to an anticlimatic end. I'm personally not liking the egg-laying or the hive-mind. It doesn't really fit Bleach. Had it been an original RP, I would've agreed, but not in Bleach. If you do end up using Mayuri, chances are the first person he'd (intentionally) infect would be Nemu. But yeah, using Mayuri would be played out, and expected. Use Momo, or something unexpected, but justifiable. Using anyone except Mayuri is unjustifiable given the situation. Mayuri doesn't have to be the first to be infected, though. He could send someone else. True, Mayuri doesn't even have to be a villain here. We still need to choose someone influential however, so he'll be our last resort. I don't want to use Yamamoto as the first infected--inb4L4Dreferences--but I don't want him to not be infected either. We could have him thrown overboard by mutiny if we have the disease be suspected by him. As though he is using the disease to become the last Shinigami or some sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 I still saw we use Fishbone P and have Ichigo be the original infected. It actually explains why hollow ichigo is better than the normal one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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