Li††le Mons†er Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 I meant here. Excuse my typo :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:Blu:. Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 oh, hehe, I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Assassin Ninjew Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Decaying, i may not be the owner or coowner, but my advise is one that should be noted and probably taken. I do know the owner quite well and we are good friends. I don't sit on a high horse, but I hold myself to a good standard. All roleplayers should. Especially when taking into account that in the anime it's been stated that with no doll control the doll will kill the master. I'm just trying to prevent you from having the owner and coowner both tell you the same thing I am telling you now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li††le Mons†er Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 You could have fooled me. Also there are also exceptions to every rule. Not all dolls may behave the same. When the anime started out there was only shinigami and hollows. there was no inbetween and as the anime progressed we found out there are expressions and gray areas. Also there is only one doll per bount. This rp defies that as well. Therefor it is more up to the Owners on what is acceptable or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Assassin Ninjew Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Actually in the anime, it never stated you couldn't have a second doll. In fact you probably could have, but you would have had to have a good relationship and a strong control in order to posses both. The fact that they didn't just shows that they were being cautious and didn't attempt to try for a second doll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li††le Mons†er Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 It never says that the doll will ALWAYS kill its partner. Just because it shows it happen once doesn't mean that it happens every time. Just like how it only shows the bount have one doll, you say it may be possible to have more but it is never seen. Plus I can also explain further as to why the doll does not kill the bount if Ryuujinn or Namelessk want me to I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Assassin Ninjew Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 If something of strength finds that the thing controlling it has no control or no strength at all, it will kill it. Not to mention, it has said that it will always kill its master if there is no control. It's been proven everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li††le Mons†er Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 It does not say every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Assassin Ninjew Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 It doesn't say it won't kill the controller if the controller has no control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li††le Mons†er Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 It doesn't say they can have two dolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Assassin Ninjew Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 It gave a chance with the book on how to summon dolls that it was possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li††le Mons†er Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 What book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Assassin Ninjew Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 You don't remember when Kariya gave Koga the book on summoning dolls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li††le Mons†er Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Oh yeah, Well that book puts a lot of emphasis on summoning one doll. Not anymore. And this arguing is pointless because It is not what you say that goes. It is what the owners say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Assassin Ninjew Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Again, I was only trying to help you on not getting an app denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li††le Mons†er Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Well, when NamelessK/Ryuujinn tell me Then I will edit it/make a new one. But thank you for your consideration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namelessk Posted June 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 @Decaying Hope I like you app. Really creative. I get why you made it 0 doll control, and that's cool with me. I don't see anything wrong with you having your doll control your Bount. It's being creative, and I see nothing wrong with that. If you can, I would like you to explain more in your app as to their relationship and stuff. Accepted (1/2) Still put the explanation in there though. Also, about the whole thing of the doll killing the owner, that has been seen twice. When Cain was killed by his doll after first summoning it and when Ugaki was killed by his doll because he had been gravely injured and so lost control of it. In my opinion, it shouldn't be said that all dolls will kill their masters if they cannot control them. Dolls have their own personality like people do. Some might be arrogant and cocky like that while others won't. His doll could have been crafty and instead of killing his master decided to just take over his body to remain in the world instead of always being released and sealed back again. Or, the doll is using his master in a sort of symbiotic relationship to grow more powerful. In my opinion, I say it depends on the dolls personality. Goethe fused with his master when she was near death instead of killing her. I know she was special in terms of being a Bount, but still it shows one doll's personality. He didn't want to leave her side and was truly devoted to her. Also, on account of the two dolls that killed their master, they both were some kind of beast or animal. Cain's doll appeared to be a mantis or something and Ugaki's doll was a mindless beast controlled by tarot cards. They might have acted on their animalistic impulse of survival of the fittest and killed their 'weak' masters because they couldn't control them. Goethe was intelligent and could talk, and maybe Caja is intelligent as well, and so that'll explain why he took control of his master instead of killing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li††le Mons†er Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Oh no! When I edited it a lot of stuff was deleted some how! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Assassin Ninjew Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Actually it was 3 dolls that killed their masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li††le Mons†er Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 There My app is all edited up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namelessk Posted June 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Oh yeah, that other guy, Mabashi. But still, his doll had an animalistic like theme. She was a rat or something while having plant like abilities in terms of the flower part of her. She acted on her animal impulses. She also wasn't all that intelligent, especially not to the level that Goethe's was. Also Decaying Hope, you probably exceeded the word limit on your post. It does that to me on the first post and on other posts when I add in apps. It deletes stuff I posted when I add in a new app into that post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Assassin Ninjew Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 The thing is, even if it was intelligent. It still killed its master for being weak. They only did it because their bonds were bad. the better the bond, the better the relationship.Oh and she was still able to keep control, that is why he didn't attack her. She was injured, not out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namelessk Posted June 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Well, in the rules, I did say any special things you have to put in the history to explain. He explained it in his history and he said exactly why his doll didn't kill the master. I think it depends on personality as well as bonds with the master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li††le Mons†er Posted June 26, 2010 Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Oh by the way Everyone, You can call me Hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namelessk Posted June 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2010 Alright Hope. Glad to have you aboard. Well, once Ryuujinn accepts both of your apps, but still welcome aboard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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