Groudon vs Kyogre.

[Eury]

Ehh some would say kyogre since' date=' water beats ground. Yet Groudon would still put up a good fight, since he has fissure. So in theory, 70% of the time kyogre would kick his ass, because of the super effectiveness, but 30% of the time groudon would win, since fissure is a one hit kill. And out of luck. Without fissure, it would be more of a 10% chance really. So in total: Kyogre.

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Ehh some would say kyogre since' date=' water beats ground. Yet Groudon would still put up a good fight, since he has fissure. So in theory, 70% of the time kyogre would kick his ass, because of the super effectiveness, but 30% of the time groudon would win, since fissure is a one hit kill. And out of luck. Without fissure, it would be more of a 10% chance really. So in total: Kyogre.

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groudon has solorbeem to.

 

Both of you obviously don't know how to play pogeymanz. Nobody teaches Groudon Fissure or Solarbeam, ever.

 

Groudon is better' date=' because it's three times faster [/thread']

 

I hope you're joking.

 

Of course XD You don't know the "It's red, so it must be three times faster" joke?

 

...no.

[Night]

Ehh some would say kyogre since' date=' water beats ground. Yet Groudon would still put up a good fight, since he has fissure. So in theory, 70% of the time kyogre would kick his ass, because of the super effectiveness, but 30% of the time groudon would win, since fissure is a one hit kill. And out of luck. Without fissure, it would be more of a 10% chance really. So in total: Kyogre.

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Ehh some would say kyogre since' date=' water beats ground. Yet Groudon would still put up a good fight, since he has fissure. So in theory, 70% of the time kyogre would kick his ass, because of the super effectiveness, but 30% of the time groudon would win, since fissure is a one hit kill. And out of luck. Without fissure, it would be more of a 10% chance really. So in total: Kyogre.

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groudon has solorbeem to.

 

Both of you obviously don't know how to play pogeymanz. Nobody teaches Groudon Fissure or Solarbeam, ever.

 

I'm only gving an example, and no i dont play that shit, i used to not anymore.

[PenguinZ]

Ehh some would say kyogre since' date=' water beats ground. Yet Groudon would still put up a good fight, since he has fissure. So in theory, 70% of the time kyogre would kick his ass, because of the super effectiveness, but 30% of the time groudon would win, since fissure is a one hit kill. And out of luck. Without fissure, it would be more of a 10% chance really. So in total: Kyogre.

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Ehh some would say kyogre since' date=' water beats ground. Yet Groudon would still put up a good fight, since he has fissure. So in theory, 70% of the time kyogre would kick his ass, because of the super effectiveness, but 30% of the time groudon would win, since fissure is a one hit kill. And out of luck. Without fissure, it would be more of a 10% chance really. So in total: Kyogre.

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groudon has solorbeem to.

 

Both of you obviously don't know how to play pogeymanz. Nobody teaches Groudon Fissure or Solarbeam, ever.

 

 

 

 

I know how to play pokemon. I am a expert. I do teach groudon solerbeam and fissure. I almost always win with it to.

[Eury]

Groudon should never learn any Special Attack, as his SpAtk stat is mediocre compared to his Atk stat.

 

IMO, a Groudon should know:

~ Swords Dance

~ Earthquake

~ Dragon Claw

~ Stone Edge / Fire Punch

 

inb4that'sobviouslyfromsmogon

[Thesius]

Ehh some would say kyogre since' date=' water beats ground. Yet Groudon would still put up a good fight, since he has fissure. So in theory, 70% of the time kyogre would kick his ass, because of the super effectiveness, but 30% of the time groudon would win, since fissure is a one hit kill. And out of luck. Without fissure, it would be more of a 10% chance really. So in total: Kyogre.

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Ehh some would say kyogre since' date=' water beats ground. Yet Groudon would still put up a good fight, since he has fissure. So in theory, 70% of the time kyogre would kick his ass, because of the super effectiveness, but 30% of the time groudon would win, since fissure is a one hit kill. And out of luck. Without fissure, it would be more of a 10% chance really. So in total: Kyogre.

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groudon has solorbeem to.

 

Both of you obviously don't know how to play pogeymanz. Nobody teaches Groudon Fissure or Solarbeam, ever.

 

 

 

 

I know how to play pokemon. I am a expert. I do teach groudon solarbeam and fissure. I almost always win with it to.

 

You're not an expert if you teach Groudon solarbeam and fissure.

 

And if you ever win with that set, your opponent sucks.

[Clair]

Groudon should never learn any Special Attack' date=' as his SpAtk stat is mediocre compared to his Atk stat.

 

IMO, a Groudon should know:

~ Swords Dance

~ Earthquake

~ Dragon Claw

~ Stone Edge / Fire Punch

 

inb4that'sobviouslyfromsmogon

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That's obviously from Smogon. >_>

 

Sure, it may seem funny to teach Solarbeam with infinite sun, but it still is a bad choice. For all of the reasons mentioned above.

 

Auto-OHKOs are cheap. Using them means you have no real talent.

 

...you expert, you. ;D

[PenguinZ]

I have talent, just sometimes I am to lazy to use it.

[Thesius]

I have talent' date=' just sometimes I am to lazy to use it.

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Failed attempt of trying to look better? =/

[PenguinZ]

no. unfailing attempt to tell the truth.

[Clair]

no. unfailing attempt to tell the truth.

 

Okay.

 

You have a Groudon.

 

I send out Kyogre.

 

What do you do?

[Thesius]

no. unfailing attempt to tell the truth.

 

Okay.

 

You have a Groudon.

 

I send out Kyogre.

 

What do you do?

 

Solarbeam!

[PenguinZ]

depends. I would slowly try to defeat you or use solorbeem. if I am lazy at that moment I would use solorbeem.

[Clair]

depends. I would slowly try to defeat you or use solorbeem. if I am lazy at that moment I would use solorbeem.

 

I win. <3

[PenguinZ]

depends which pokeball is thrown first. if yours is I win.

[Clair]

depends which pokeball is thrown first. if yours is I win.

 

Never mind.

 

I thought you knew how to play.

[Ghost-O]

Kyogre. It looks cooler' date=' and I like Water types better. Plus, even without Water, it can hit Groudon with Ice.

 

However, Groudon is still very cool, and I like him a lot. And shut yo mouth, Dark, Groudon can threaten Kyogre with Earthquakes if its locked into a weakened Surf or some such. It doesn't have the most spectacular defenses, after all.

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funker beat me to it.

[PenguinZ]

depends which pokeball is thrown first. if yours is I win.

 

Never mind.

 

I thought you knew how to play.

 

I do, that is what happens. I could check, but I guess you have something against groudon-likers. I have been playing sense I was 5.

[Clair]

depends which pokeball is thrown first. if yours is I win.

 

Never mind.

 

I thought you knew how to play.

 

I do' date=' that is what happens. I could check, but I guess you have something against groudon-likers.

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I have something against self-proclaimed experts who aren't really experts, is all.

[PenguinZ]

I don't think I am a expert, I think I am good, not great. I have been beaten many times, and do not know everything about it.

[Thesius]

depends which pokeball is thrown first. if yours is I win.

 

Groudon's Solarbeam is a 2HKO, and Kyogre's Ice Beam is a 1-2HKO, depending if you were EV'd in health or not.

 

Kyogre's are generally faster than Groudon's, because people don't usually max out speed EV's in them.

 

So Kyogre goes first, 1-2HKO, then your Groudon attacks with Solarbeam, then Kyogre wins. =/

 

Checked all of this on a Damage Calc. not sure if it is accurate or not.

[Ghost-O]

Jolly Groudon barely has a chance. >_>

[PenguinZ]

Jolly Groudon barely has a chance. >_>

 

I have defeated kyogre... but it does matter which goes first to.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

I luv Groudon, but sadly Kyogre wins in terms of games.

[Eury]

Jolly Groudon barely has a chance. >_>

 

I have defeated kyogre... but it does matter which goes first to.

 

Then all the Kyogres you faced obviously weren't trained right.

[Clair]

My Shoddy Buddy Mr. Sir and I have tested this. ^^

 

No matter what he did, Groudon couldn't escape from Specs Water Spout.

 

If he didn't equip Scarf, it would be an easy OHKO.

 

If he did equip Scarf, Kyogre's Drizzle would override Groudon's Drought, making SOLARBEEM impossible to use.

 

In terms of games...

 

Kyogre > Groudon.