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[Debate] Do people have the right to suicide?

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religion is for fools

 

actually religion

is for the perception of those who cannot trust themselves with greater tasks then they think they can handle.

people put there "faith" in "god" because one of two things

their force them to at a young age, to believe in god

and because when people are failing in something, or need help mentally, they want to know that they can trust someone to "help" them through things

 

so basically

your just talking to a random nobody lol =/

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its your opinion bloodrun, even you dont believe in him, he's always on your side, ready to help you...if you the song "Foot Prints in the Sand".

 

John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

 

that's my opinion...

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its your opinion bloodrun' date=' even you dont believe in him, he's always on your side, ready to help you...if you the song "Foot Prints in the Sand".

 

John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

 

that's my opinion...

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ok no offense to anyone! for what im about to say

 

if god really loved me or could really help me

where was he when my little sister was getting raped,

where was he when my best friend was getting attacked

where was he when the plane crashed into the world trade center killing innocent children

where was he when my mom was diognosed with cancer

where was he my next door neighbor was robbed and beaten

where was is he! when all those people in africa are starving

when are our own country is fighting each other over something he says is sin (homo sexuality)

can you answer me this?

where is he when we feel un protected, when we are lost in the lie that is god, when we are no longer able to be free in the land of the free, and do what we like, with home ever we like?!

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Oh horrible! Are those true? Every person encounters their greatest challenges. I think it is like that you are traveling inside a very deep cave where you are the only one. You walk and walk until you find the exit. You sacrifice things but in the end of the passage you find the light shining upon you at last you find the goal. It is the same as the Newton's 3rd Law of Motion, for every action there is an equal reaction. For every bad that will happen, there is a good that will happen also. The same as Full Metal Alchemist, the equivalent rate.

 

There is a story, once there is a plane crushed on an island and he lived there alone. He built a small hut for protection, foods for hunger. Then one day, the hut burned, all of his things and he said, "God why do you let this happened to me!" Rescuers came and he said to them, "how you you able to find me?". A rescuer replied, "we saw the smoke came from this place". The burn made the smoke. How happy he was when he was rescued. This is how good is God...

 

Peace to you

I hope I have not of offended you...

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Oh horrible! Are those true? Every person encounters their greatest challenges. I think it is like that you are traveling inside a very deep cave where you are the only one. You walk and walk until you find the exit. You sacrifice things but in the end of the passage you find the light shining upon you at last you find the goal. It is the same as the Newton's 3rd Law of Motion' date=' for every action there is an equal reaction. For every bad that will happen, there is a good that will happen also. The same as Full Metal Alchemist, the equivalent rate.

 

There is a story, once there is a plane crushed on an island and he lived there alone. He built a small hut for protection, foods for hunger. Then one day, the hut burned, all of his things and he said, "God why do you let this happened to me!" Rescuers came and he said to them, "how you you able to find me?". A rescuer replied, "we saw the smoke came from this place". The burn made the smoke. How happy he was when he was rescued. This is how good is God...

 

Peace to you

I hope I have not of offended you...

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no offense but i cannot put my trust into something

that has let me down for so many years

i can not let my self for something that does not exist

i can not let my mind wonder on about a book that was just written by men with no proof what so ever that there is a god

except for words

i am niether an atheist nor a christian

i do how ever believe, that if there is information providing proof on one subject, then i will "follow" that subject, untill a greater but equall proof is shown with the other subject

so i guess i can say i believe evolution

 

to end this conversation

to let myself fall for the believe in god, to let my self believe that in the end he can help me

would be a greater devastation on my part

i have tried this before

and in the end

it just brings more pain =/

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that's life...do not cross the road carelessly' date=' make your decision wisely, do your best every time, think positive...

 

i respect your opinion and also you...

sorry...

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it is ok

my family has tried to make convert to christianity

but i have not

when i see a time or need to

i shall go to church and reluctantly but willing

give myself to "god"

 

friends?

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i think no because world is wonderful. It is a god given gift to us. To enjoy the things all around us. Problems and hindrances are given to us by God to test us. God never gives us challenges that we cannot solve. These challenges will make us strong in times of true difficulties. Enjoy your life to the fullest. Death is inevitable. If it is your time' date=' then its your time. He'll always saves you. A person who casts death to himself/herself is not a courageous person.

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Stating something based off of no logical evidence as fact (The existence of god). Smells like Fascism.

 

Immortality is possible, I have figured it out, but we are not technologically able to do it. To clone ones DNA, and replace every cell in your body with the cloned DNA of when you are/were 22 (the perfect age genetically) every 7 years would be impossible. You would age from 22-29, and then your cells, after one mitosis, would be reverted to the same as when you were 22 again. DNA only splits a certain amount of times, thus resulting in "death" when it is not programmed to split anymore, but to replace the DNA that says, split 11 more times (brain) with the DNA that says split 12 more times, letting it split to 11, and then replacing it with the 12 in a repeating cycle, would result in immortality.

 

Thus death is not inevitable.

 

God does not test me. I am the Arbiter of my own life, my world, the world I create by perceiving with my senses and with my mind and consciousness. The body gives me the brain, and I think the thoughts, and when (if) I die, the body dies, thus all thought, will, and perception will cease as well.

 

What makes courage a "Good" virtue? The opinion of society and individuals. It is not fact that virtue exists.

 

The one part I agreed with. Enjoy life to the fullest. Umm, Yay? :)

 

actually religion

is for the perception of those who cannot trust themselves with greater tasks then they think they can handle.

people put there "faith" in "god" because one of two things

their force them to at a young age' date=' to believe in god

and because when people are failing in something, or need help mentally, they want to know that they can trust someone to "help" them through things[/quote']

 

It is for those who cannot handle or understand Logic, or those who are taught to be in that infectious mindset from birth.

 

Religion makes one happy, gives them purpose, but since I think very Logic Minded, I cannot handle the idea of believing in something that I know isn't true, since Physics is the fundamentals of our universe. Logical thinking and physical evidence can prove that.

 

Religion on the other hand, has no physical proof or logic behind it, and seems to fit perfectly under the idea of promoting one ruler, submitting to that ruler as it sees fit. Religion is a tool of Politics, which is known to be involved with many things that the religion it sets forth to keep people in line would deem unethical. The Crusades, Female Genocide in the Roman Empire, colonialism, European Seperation, Ignorance. (must I list the effects of ignorance)

 

"Religion is the spark to the flames of ignorance." Just add Oxygen and foolhearty people, and voila!

 

It is the same as the Newton's 3rd Law of Motion' date=' for every action there is an equal reaction. For every bad that will happen, there is a good that will happen also. The same as Full Metal Alchemist, the equivalent rate.[/quote']

 

Good and bad are opinions. If I were to go make a piece on a train bridge (graffiti), I would not be punished, for Art is not, and cannot be criminal. [Except by the Capital/ruling class, which we need not delve into in this debate]

 

where was he when my little sister was getting raped' date='

where was he when my best friend was getting attacked

where was he when the plane crashed into the world trade center killing innocent children

where was he when my mom was diognosed with cancer

where was he my next door neighbor was robbed and beaten

where was is he! when all those people in africa are starving

when are our own country is fighting each other over something he says is sin (homo sexuality)

can you answer me this?

where is he when we feel un protected, when we are lost in the lie that is god, when we are no longer able to be free in the land of the free, and do what we like, with home ever we like?! [/quote']

 

It [God] was sulking in the lie that is his name. That name, the Nominal God, resulted in much more than this. It resulted in Murder, thievery, harming another, to be considered immoral, and then leads you to believe that it can have control over it. But things still happen.

 

"If God is willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.

If he is able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

If he is both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

If he is neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

-Epicurus

 

religion is for fools

 

Sell me the Infection

Its only for the weak

On Bleeding Knees

Oh I accept my fate

 

- In Flames

 

The infection is religion. Religion is for the weak. For those who's minds are not wired for logic' date=' but for slavery, for control, for Faith.

 

*cough*
Hate to tell you, he is right in a sense. xD

 

I'm not really a religious person but i learned a lot about God in my highschool years

 

They taught you about god in High School. If this was a public school in the United States I am outraged. If it was private, then well, now you know why I am against private schools.

 

And Guts, I am not at all attempting to offend you at all, since I have not debated you before, I feel it necessiary to state that.

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