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Raiza is the only monarch that deserves to be semi-limited at best. The other ones(including the dark one) can remain at 3. Although Grandmaster should be limited, he won't be. Not enough people use that deck well. I'll give my summary

 

Changes to the banned list:

Take off:Butterfly Dagger-Elma (Restore Guardian decks to be playable)

 

Add:Elemental Hero Stratos(Slow down pc decks ALOT)

Gearfreid the Iron Knight(Prevent BD Elma OTKs, seriously is this in any tier deck?)

Treeborn Frog(Enough said)

Dimension Fusion(After the next set, this is necessary)

 

Changes to Limited-Add:Return from a Different Dimension (OTK alert)

Foolish Burial (Too powerful in 2 or more)

Grandmaster of the Six Samurai (Recycles himself and the support keeps it that way, keeps this deck in check)

Trade in (Decoy decks are overpowered with this at 3)

Creature Swap (Too many combos)

Manticore of Darkness (End infinite loop)

 

Changes to Semi-limited-Add: Destiny Draw (pc is slowed a little more)

Shield Crush (There are enough cards to punish defense)

Raiza the Storm Monarch (too powerful at three)

 

Other than that, this can work

 

I expect to be flamed for this

However Stratos searching any hero when Special Summoned is too much to stay playable.

Butterfly Dagger over Gearfreid is my choice, I prefer another deck to be playable over a card that isn't useful.(There are other warrior beat sticks and Swordmaster isn't worth it)

Dimension Fusion and Return are going to be sooooooo powerful when the next set is released

Grandmaster won't happen until the SS decks are properly played by enough players

Trade in-Just watch when a deck is properly built around this

Raiza in threes are too much for one deck, might be cut to even one if his abuse keeps up. Really, when the Raiza/phoenix wing blast combo goes off its practically an OTK.

 

Thats my explanation and my reasons

Sadly this isn't all of it, but I can't remember the rest.

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Foolish Burial isnt too good' date=' because the card you want to send might have already been drawn, but yeah.

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could be, a lot of cards are situational, specially combos...

 

but there's several deks that use follish burial to put their key monster on the grave and become fasters: frog in monarchs, disc commander in PC, dasher in destiny or normal decks, necro gardna in stall or sky scourge decks... need to say more??

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Ben7922' date=' Guardian decks even with Butterfly dagger, SUCK

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Not really actually

The control and power the Guardians can play at overwhelm several decks

But I didn't mean regional going on national good, they need a guardian that gives draw power to be that good

But they could win locally or bat 500 at a good regionals event if dagger came back

Although each of them have useful combo in their own deck

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no i dont think so. Monarchs have HUGE control. much more than Guardians. face it, guardians are bad. you have to have a certain card on the field before you can summon them, and that card has to be equipped to a monster. with monarchs, you tribute your Survivor, summon raiza, +3, survivor comes back. way better.

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Pot of Greed is a +4 with no downside.

 

snipe hunter isnt as good as it used to be. if your friend runs sniper on you' date=' run [b']Shadow Imprisoning Mirror[/b].

 

Future Fusion will definitely NOT be banned.

 

i dont know

but i find that card really situational... as if everyones gonna run DARK monsters

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Pot of Greed is a +4 with no downside.

 

snipe hunter isnt as good as it used to be. if your friend runs sniper on you' date=' run [b']Shadow Imprisoning Mirror[/b].

 

Future Fusion will definitely NOT be banned.

 

i dont know

but i find that card really situational... as if everyones gonna run DARK monsters

 

there's something called SIDE DECK... sounds familiar??

 

Ben7922, butterfly dagger WON'T - and i repeat- WON'T come back... because is the card with more locking combos than anyone else... and several of them involves gearfied the iron knight... let's see...

 

elma + gearfied + royal magical library = infinity draw (exodia)

elma + gearfried + magical beast cerberus = infinity attack (free OTK)

elma + gearfried + spell absorption = infinity life points

 

need to say more??

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Solar Flare Dragon - Limited. Seriously' date=' every duel my friend wins is because of 2/3 of these.

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if you cant beat solar flare dragons, you epicly fail

 

seriously.

 

deck fissure, 3 hammer shots, smashing ground, 3 lightning vortex, 3 Raiza, 3 Zaborg.

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Orochi, upperdeck picked Gearfreid over BD-Elma

I balanced out the BD-Elma OTKs by banning Gearfried

Feel free to list realistic OTKs without him

 

Pot of greed will never come back as much as I'd like to see it, besides our new version is DH-Disk Commander

 

Kizzi, there are tons of cards to get around stalling/burn decks

 

Snipe Hunter will stay because he may not work(mathematically 1/3rd if the time)

Future Fusion at one is good enough. That is NOT worthy of ban list yet

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I'd say Bad Reaction should be at least limited' date=' mainly because:

 

Bad Reaction + Snatch Steal = You take their monster, they lose 1000 LP every turn.

Bad Reaction + Upstart Goblin = Draw a card, they lose 1000 LP.

Bad Reaction + Rain of Mercy = I think you get it by now....

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I doubt it would be limited because of those. Especially since snatch steal is already banned. If anything its because of gift card. But i still doubt they would even semi limit Bad Reaction

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Orochi' date=' upperdeck picked Gearfreid over BD-Elma

I balanced out the BD-Elma OTKs by banning Gearfried

Feel free to list realistic OTKs without him

 

Pot of greed will never come back as much as I'd like to see it, besides our new version is DH-Disk Commander

 

Kizzi, there are tons of cards to get around stalling/burn decks

 

Snipe Hunter will stay because he may not work(mathematically 1/3rd if the time)

Future Fusion at one is good enough. That is NOT worthy of ban list yet

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ok, anyway elma is good banned and will stay right there... gearfried is not worth to be banned... also, banning butterfly dagger only bans guardian elma, and gearfried bans limit restrain and gearfired the swordmaster... better 1 than 2, isn't it??

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Bans: Snipe Hunter, Raiza

Limited: Jinzo, Shield Crush, Sakuretsu Armor, Dark Bribe

Semi-Limited: Crystal Abundance (though I use 2 of them in my Deck...), Chain Strike (it isn't that good), ........

 

Reasons: Snipe Hunter: Imagine.....loads of cards in the opposing hand! He/she can discard them to destroy ours, it's so annoying!

 

Raiza: One of the most annoying things I've ever seen while playing in Game King. If it comes down during the first part of the game, you can almost lose!

 

Jinzo: Pain in the butt card,....

 

Shield Crush: Do I even have to explain???

 

Sakuretsu: Attack! Boom! It immediately dies!

 

Dark Bribe: Do I even have to explain???

 

Crystal Abundance: Well I have to say its a bit cheating! Although it won me a lot of games, its preferrably "unnoticlingy broken".

 

Chain Strike: Sorry to say but this card is not as cheating as it looks. No reason to explain

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Any card that has an effect that protects them if another type is on the field. Like Magicians Valkiria, Command Knight, and....especially Solar Flare Dragon!!!!! I was playing World Championshop 2008 yesterday and My opponent played two solar flare dragons. I couldnt attack them, and I lost 1000 LP at the end of each of his turns....I was soooo pissed.

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Any card that has an effect that protects them if another type is on the field. Like Magicians Valkiria' date=' Command Knight, and....especially Solar Flare Dragon!!!!! I was playing World Championshop 2008 yesterday and My opponent played two solar flare dragons. I couldnt attack them, and I lost 1000 LP at the end of each of his turns....I was soooo pissed.

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if you can't manage that you DESERVE to be burned merciless... don't you have book of moon, enemy controller, brain control or destroyer cards on your deck?

 

pro2go, your ban list is inconsistent... snipe hunter is not so good to be banned, and raiza will remain untouched since there's control against it, shield crush sucks compared with nobleman of crossout, jinzo is still controllable, sakuretsu is so ridiculouslly controllable... dark bribe is just another counter and gives card advantage to the opponent, so no... crystal abundance could be... but chain strike remains at 1, because the chain burn deck can destroy the opponent in 2 turns easily...

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