a remove from play deck vs. a blackwing deck (lock)

[dbzdbz11]

how can i use a remove from play deck to beat a blackwing deck?

i have tryed again and again but, while i do get better and better results just about each time i try something new but, i still haven't gotten the win with it and i know it is posable to win with a rfp deck but i can't find the right build to do so. so, does any one know how to do this? please no responses like rfp decks can't beat blackwing decks. only helpfull tips, and i am not putting my deck on because i don't think i need to put my deck on but, if you think it would help i might put it on.

[RyanAtlus]

Run cards like Trap Hole and Bottomless Trap Hole.

Once Blackwings don't control any monsters, they can't use the "When you control a BW, Special Summon this card from your hand" effect.

Depends on the type of BW, but it's a helpful hint for BW in general.

[Xsos_killer]

use macro cosmos ant the spell fit with is and you can made a miracle but not for longer. in his case you need helios trice mesgistus and a D.D.R. and a card to discard helios.

is a good strategy but you need to play rapidly to have an aventage and use helios a the good momment.

[dbzdbz11]

cool ideas

what about grinder golem + inferno tempist + d.d. dynamitex3

i saw it on the wiki

[Canadian]

cool ideas

what about grinder golem + inferno tempist + d.d. dynamitex3

i saw it on the wiki

 

You want an OTK? If so, thats one way of doing it, but I wouldn't recomend it. It's not common to get out and requires at least 3000 life points left (not that big of a deal). It's just pretty slow.

 

Plus, if they side Imperial Iron Wall, you pretty much lose every time.

 

I'd stick with D-Fissure x3 for winning against BWs and have triple Warrior Lady + Assailant.

[dbzdbz11]

cool ideas

what about grinder golem + inferno tempist + d.d. dynamitex3

i saw it on the wiki

 

You want an OTK? If so' date=' thats one way of doing it, but I wouldn't recomend it. It's not common to get out and requires at least 3000 life points left (not that big of a deal). It's just pretty slow.

 

Plus, if they side Imperial Iron Wall, you pretty much lose every time.

 

I'd stick with D-Fissure x3 for winning against BWs and have triple Warrior Lady + Assailant.

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i like Warrior Lady and Assailant and thay have ok def but if my opponent brings out a blackwing synchro what then or that 1 with 2000 atk i mean peircing is painfull?

i use negate attack and that helps but a deck can only hold 3 copies and there are a few other things i can put in to block attacks but i don't allways have those cards ready to be use because i don't draw them or maby giant trunade sent them to my hand or even heavy storm destroyed them.

[Aximil]

but if my opponent brings out a blackwing synchro what then

 

That's EXACTLY what DD Warrior Lady and Assailant are for.

[burnpsy]

or maby giant trunade sent them to my hand or even heavy storm destroyed them.

 

This is why you use Threatening Roar or Waboku instead of Negate Attack.

[MibeR]

use,,anti special summon cards..

 

like rai-oh ,, or just continous trap cards..to negate special summon,,

 

its just pay 800

[.dek]

zomg noob be trollin noobin

 

 

 

Use Mirror Force and Threatening Roar and Waboku.

 

Then use Smashing Ground and Fissure and Lightning Vortex.

 

And Doomcaliber Knight

 

And Rai-oh

 

And Royal Oppression

 

And Gadgets

 

(I'm pretty sure I just gave you a funking deck here)

[dbzdbz11]

but if my opponent brings out a blackwing synchro what then

 

That's EXACTLY what DD Warrior Lady and Assailant are for.

 

or maby giant trunade sent them to my hand or even heavy storm destroyed them.

 

This is why you use Threatening Roar or Waboku instead of Negate Attack.

 

use' date=',anti special summon cards..

 

like rai-oh ,, or just continous trap cards..to negate special summon,,

 

its just pay 800

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zomg noob be trollin noobin

 

 

 

Use Mirror Force and Threatening Roar and Waboku.

 

Then use Smashing Ground and Fissure and Lightning Vortex.

 

And Doomcaliber Knight

 

And Rai-oh

 

And Royal Oppression

 

And Gadgets

 

(I'm pretty sure I just gave you a f***ing deck here)

 

Aximil & SpinnyChairOfDoom all you have done on supperandrew's thread is harass me and give me a negative rating and now you want to post stuf on my thread that is sad that all you want to do is talk to me.

 

burnpsy good cards i like those and i hadn't thought about them as being better then negate attack because they all do pretty much the same thing but, negate attack can't be activated when ever i want like waboku and threatining roar so i will have to start useing those instead.

 

mahandra g i like your idea but, that be better in an anti-meta deck. i know remove from play cards are common in an anti-meta deck though. so i could add it and have it be usefull i just wish i had it.

[Aximil]

Aximil & SpinnyChairOfDoom all you have done on supperandrew's thread is harass me and give me a negative rating and now you want to post stuf on my thread that is sad that all you want to do is talk to me.

 

mahandra g i like your idea but' date=' that be better in an anti-meta deck. i know remove from play cards are common in an anti-meta deck though. so i could add it and have it be usefull i just wish i had it.

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We don't want to talk to you. I just happen to run into your posts a lot. If anything, we're helping you get better at the game. Plus, it's fun to read what horrible peoples think about cards and what "combos" they come up with.

 

And as for that second part, those cards can be part of an anti-meta or a meta deck. My Blackwings actually run Royal Oppresion and one of my GB decks runs that and Thunder King Rai-Oh. The rest of the cards can be splashed into just about anything.

[dbzdbz11]

what about mass removal like inferno tempast but for spells and traps is there anything like that i haven't heard of anything

[Aximil]

what about mass removal like inferno tempast but for spells and traps is there anything like that i haven't heard of anything

 

 

No.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

To kill: Giant Trap hole and Adhesion Trap Hole

To stall: Stumbling, Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror, and skill drain

[-Griffin]

To kill: Giant Trap hole and Adhesion Trap Hole

To stall: Stumbling' date=' Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror, and skill drain

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No.

 

Just use Trap Hole, Bottomless Trap Hole, Starlight (if they run enough to hit with it) and maybe Waboku if they're just too fast for an RFG Deck. Also consider Dust Tornado to add to your MST as a good way to hit the backrow when they set something or hit their Whirlwinds.

[dbzdbz11]

ok cool how about swarming u have to swarm if your being swarmed i mean you can stop swarming but if they have swarmed already what can you do

 

there is ultimate offering and double summon

i like ultimate offering because i can do it again and again

there is also cards like slip summon but i don't think that would help because of the second part of it's effect

i also don't want to use too many cards that let me summon alot because i don't want to lose too many of my rfp cards

[Aximil]

No. Just Lightning Vortex or Torrential Tribute or something to wipe out the swarm.

[Dr. Cakey]

Shut your opponent down: Bottomless, Solemn. Two of the first and one of the second is a lot of summon stopping power.

 

Beat out tough monsters: D.D. Warrior Lady or Assailant.

 

Beat out the swarm: Torrential Tribute, Lightning Vortex, Mirror Force.

 

Oh, and here's a bonus: try using Guardian Eatos as a source of cheap power. I don't know if it'll work or not, but you can try it out.

[dbzdbz11]

Guardian Eatos and solem are 2 cards i wish i had is there an easy way to get them i don't know of any

and mirror force i think i have 1 but i can't find it and i have been looking for a while i am better off getting another but it is a good card thats for sure