The Black Fang [Fire Emblem Club]

[Bringerofcake]

Well' date=' we can always fit in Eric. Cavalier, not exactly good, BUT his father is udner control of the Black Fang.

 

He may be a bit cowardly, but we can find how to have him go in search of the Black Fang, to find out more about it, and then he gets gragged into it.

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Actually, I'm not opposed to this. In support convos we can have him gain courage and eventually leave him ruling Laus properly.

[Blake]

We could have Darren, and the other Lausians(?) as well.

[DL]

Yeah, that could be good. o.o

 

In fact, too good to pass up!

 

 

But, problem is, WHO're gonna be his supports?

 

Meh, we'll figure that out later.

 

And it takes out ONE cavalier to look for.

 

oh, also, what about that incredibly expensive Pegasus Knight?

[Blake]

I say the Pegasus sisters come as part of a Merc. Troup at different times. As I have said MANY times.

[DL]

She's part of the group? O.o

 

THAT, I did not know.

 

Well, aside from Eric... IDK any other cavaliers....

 

Question, do they HAVE to ride stuff?

 

 

Also, there's Heath.

 

He was a Mercenary.

[Bringerofcake]

We could have Darren' date=' and the other Lausians(?) as well.

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Nah. There's got to be a father-son betrayal somewhere. Since the Fang isn't going to do that, then Eric might.

He'd have to come lategame, then.

 

Question' date=' do they HAVE to ride stuff?

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No, they don't. We just need replacements. We need riding units SOMEWHERE, but we don't have to replace them with the same type of unit. Is anyone good enough with paint to make a new portrait of a made-up character?

[Supreme Gamesmaster]

So... has anyone bothered doing anything other than brainstorm characters it might be cool to play as? Draw up statsheets and growth rates, write up scripts, wrangle support pointers...?

 

If so, it should probably go to the first page. If not, then suddenly I have a job. Either way, methinks it's a good question to ask, politically.

[Bringerofcake]

So... has anyone bothered doing anything other than brainstorm characters it might be cool to play as? Draw up statsheets and growth rates' date=' write up scripts, wrangle support pointers...?

 

If so, it should probably go to the first page. If not, then suddenly I have a job. Either way, methinks it's a good question to ask, politically.

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I've been working out the first few chapters' scripts, but other than that, we've mostly been trying to figure out who we CAN play (as I doubt that Oswin has a good reason for joining the Black Fang), not just who "it might be cool to play as".

 

However, the problem I'm encountering is the tutorial. Gamemaster, judging by your applying post, you probably could answer this:

 

According to the Character Editor module, there is data for the Lyn's tale characters in and out of tutorial. Am I correct in my guess that the out of tutorial data is used if you start Eliwood/Hector's tales right off, without completing the tutorial first?

 

EDIT: I almost forgot: Does a module exist to eliminate the CGs from Chapter Events, or do I need to manually remove them?

[MarshyK-XS]

sorry for going off the previous topic

 

I am now upto part 3 chapter 13 amd have a senario. I have lost edward and am on turn 11 (Battle saved) do i do the mission again and waste anoher 45 minutes on their or do i go on?

 

~MK

[Supreme Gamesmaster]

So... has anyone bothered doing anything other than brainstorm characters it might be cool to play as? Draw up statsheets and growth rates' date=' write up scripts, wrangle support pointers...?

 

If so, it should probably go to the first page. If not, then suddenly I have a job. Either way, methinks it's a good question to ask, politically.

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I've been working out the first few chapters' scripts, but other than that, we've mostly been trying to figure out who we CAN play (as I doubt that Oswin has a good reason for joining the Black Fang), not just who "it might be cool to play as".

 

However, the problem I'm encountering is the tutorial.

It's giving me a hard time, too; the only thing I can do is excuse it with humor.

 

Gamemaster, judging by your applying post, you probably could answer this:

 

According to the Character Editor module, there is data for the Lyn's tale characters in and out of tutorial. Am I correct in my guess that the out of tutorial data is used if you start Eliwood/Hector's tales right off, without completing the tutorial first?

That's certainly my guess. Unfortunately, I can't test that; mine ROM isn't pre-beaten, and I can't use Eliwood's/Hector's stories immediately.

 

EDIT: Actually, no; based on the support pointer editor, it seems that the non-tutorials are always used outside tutorial mode, regardless of whether the tutorial was played. Eliwood, for example, can only support non-tutorial Lyn, so...

 

EDIT: I almost forgot: Does a module exist to eliminate the CGs from Chapter Events, or do I need to manually remove them?

Oftentimes in FEVIII, if there's a long cutscene before or after a chapter, it will have a separate editing module similar to the chapter itself; that can be edited in Nightmare and probably deleted with proper use of a text editor. I haven't found similar files in my FEVII chapter set, though, so I'd assume a conversation editor module would suffice for the same job (mine don't work, so I wouldn't know). I don't know of any dedicated cutscene removers, though.

MarshyK-XS, do the mission again. NEVAR LOSE UNIT EVAR.

[MarshyK-XS]

okay will do he was one of my favs

 

~MK

[Bringerofcake]

So... has anyone bothered doing anything other than brainstorm characters it might be cool to play as? Draw up statsheets and growth rates' date=' write up scripts, wrangle support pointers...?

 

If so, it should probably go to the first page. If not, then suddenly I have a job. Either way, methinks it's a good question to ask, politically.

[/quote']

 

I've been working out the first few chapters' scripts, but other than that, we've mostly been trying to figure out who we CAN play (as I doubt that Oswin has a good reason for joining the Black Fang), not just who "it might be cool to play as".

 

However, the problem I'm encountering is the tutorial.

It's giving me a hard time, too; the only thing I can do is excuse it with humor.

 

Gamemaster, judging by your applying post, you probably could answer this:

 

According to the Character Editor module, there is data for the Lyn's tale characters in and out of tutorial. Am I correct in my guess that the out of tutorial data is used if you start Eliwood/Hector's tales right off, without completing the tutorial first?

That's certainly my guess. Unfortunately, I can't test that; mine ROM isn't pre-beaten, and I can't use Eliwood's/Hector's stories immediately.

 

EDIT: Actually, no; based on the support pointer editor, it seems that the non-tutorials are always used outside tutorial mode, regardless of whether the tutorial was played. Eliwood, for example, can only support non-tutorial Lyn, so...

 

EDIT: I almost forgot: Does a module exist to eliminate the CGs from Chapter Events, or do I need to manually remove them?

Oftentimes in FEVIII, if there's a long cutscene before or after a chapter, it will have a separate editing module similar to the chapter itself; that can be edited in Nightmare and probably deleted with proper use of a text editor. I haven't found similar files in my FEVII chapter set, though, so I'd assume a conversation editor module would suffice for the same job (mine don't work, so I wouldn't know). I don't know of any dedicated cutscene removers, though.

MarshyK-XS, do the mission again. NEVAR LOSE UNIT EVAR.

 

Hum. That is a problem. Actually, I can probably circumvent most of the problems that the tutorial presents (similar to how you can use Pure Water instead of a Vulnerary in Prologue and it accepts that as a "healing").

[MarshyK-XS]

nearly finished part 3, finally. On the end game chapter.

Oscar - lvl 10 silver night awesomeness

also

 

Mia - True blade awesomeness

 

~MK

[DL]

Ah, just replacements... well, as my knowledge on BF characters is a bit... low, I can't help much, although Eric was an 'elightment' moment.

 

Wait, what if Oswin was discharged from the army for being too old? (thought)

 

or some other discharge.

 

That way, he goes join the Black Fang and ends up joining Llyod and Linus' group.

[Bringerofcake]

Ah' date=' just replacements... well, as my knowledge on BF characters is a bit... low, I can't help much, although Eric was an 'elightment' moment.

 

Wait, what if Oswin was discharged from the army for being too old? (thought)

 

or some other discharge.

 

That way, he goes join the Black Fang and ends up joining Llyod and Linus' group.

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Bit of a stretch, IMO. Oswin is too good of a knight to get pissy with Hector and flout his orders.

[DL]

No, like, an honorable discharge. Like, he received a grievious wound, and they took him off the battlefield.

 

So oswin, still with love for war, decided to leave to look for some way to help Ostia AND fight at the same time.

[Bringerofcake]

Personally, that sounds more like Wallace to me. Especially with his sort of dialog and character.

[DL]

Then Wallace it is.

 

Although we could just have Wallace get lost and wander over there. (joke)

 

 

Oh, also, we can get Pent and his wife, and Hawkeye, later on.

 

 

EDIT: Out of boredom, I came up with a support conversation for Eric and Rebbeca O.o

 

Logic:

 

I want him to talk to some 'commoner'

 

Nobles view Sacaeans as 'lesser', so probably someone from Sacae.

 

Someone who would be defenseless against close range attacks.

 

Rebecca fits the bill! O.O

 

Anyone want to see it?

[Bringerofcake]

Go for it. Meanwhile, I've put the finishing touches on the opening few dialouges and tutorial texts. I'll post them at some point, and get your feedback.

[DL]

Can't wait to see them.

 

Also:

 

[spoiler=Support (riiight)]

Rebecca: (walks to Eric) Um... hello.

Eric: ...What is it you want?

Rebecca: Oh... um, you're name's Eric, right?

Eric: I'm surprised a commoner like you knows my name. Now, again, what do you want?

Rebecca: Well, you see, being an archer, I prefer to stay away from the enemy's reach, but, everyone's too busy... so I was wondering, could you hold them off while I strike them with my arrows?

Eric: ...You wish me to risk my life for a commoner? Do I seem so foolish?

Rebecca: But, are you not fighting enemies either way?

Eric: Well... that's... either way, there are enemies to fight. Farewell. (leaves)

Rebecca: Wait for me! (follows)

 

 

 

It's a bit rough, since I came up with it while laying in bed at 9: 30 at night, but, it can work, as a C or B support.

 

But I wonder, is there a chance we could add Rebecca as a playable character without being too... how shall I say, out of character?

[MarshyK-XS]

Finally have reached part 4. Mia at true blade and brom at marshall kicks butt!

 

~MK

[DL]

Yes, Mia PWNS all as a trueblade. She became stronger than Edward D:

 

Nephenee also was quite epic.