Headmaster Monokuma Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Once the tutor-apprentice thread thing comes back on again (they are currently in their 47th' date=' so wait until 48th), you can join and you will have someone to teach you a bunch of stuff. Despite my knowledge, I'm planning on joining the tutor-apprentice thread in their 48th run, because I don't feel I know enough of the OU metagame to consistently win.[/quote'] That sounds like something I could use, but I really don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Once the tutor-apprentice thread thing comes back on again (they are currently in their 47th' date=' so wait until 48th), you can join and you will have someone to teach you a bunch of stuff. Despite my knowledge, I'm planning on joining the tutor-apprentice thread in their 48th run, because I don't feel I know enough of the OU metagame to consistently win.[/quote'] I need to use that. I suck at teh Pogeymanz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Smogon has a pretty good community, and I like 'em so far. Good and intelligent debaters, as well. Oh, and http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-152310-post-3694565.html#pid3694565 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Smogon has a pretty good community' date=' and I like 'em so far. Good and intelligent debaters, as well. Oh, and http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-152310-post-3694565.html#pid3694565[/quote'] Oh you. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Sadly, my Mixed ScarfVire set has been declined from Smogon. Their points were obviously valid, and I knew from the beginning it was a gimmick set. :D However, as long as Salamence is away, I'm running it. Because it does a lot more decent than they would've thought, despite all of its drawbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 waitwut Was Salamence moved to Uber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Damn this page glitch. God damnit. If anyone needs the set: Electivire @ Choice ScarfMild Nature, 176 Atk, 80 SpA, 252 Spe~ Thunderbolt~ Flamethrower~ Ice Punch / Hidden Power [ice]~ Earthquake / Cross Chop However, because of the non-offensive nature and lack of resisting priority, I'd switch the nature to Naughty (+Atk, -SpD), just so you can get more power from Ice Punch and EQ/CC, and you can also resist priority moves better because you are opting against using a -Def nature. This thing, with Naughty nature, can survive two Choice Banded Scizor's Bullet Pawnches, assuming no SR damage beforehand. It's obvious that the set runs on using 4x weaknesses against your opponent. This thing can take down Gyarados with TBolt; Scizor, Metagross, some Jirachi, and other Steels with Flamethrower; Dragonite, Salamence and Dugtrio with the Ice move, and; Heatran and Magnezone with Earthquake or Tyranitar with Cross Chop. It's extremely gimmicky, and I would not run it if you have a better revenge killer in mind. It has netted me at least one or two kills per game, due to it dealing with almost every non-wall OU Pokemon effectively (except Kingdra). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 *Ahem* Ice and Eury know, but anyone else that has/had issues with Striker (Now War Torn) click Humility in my sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-209915-post-4288679.html#pid4288679 YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 waitwut Was Salamence moved to Uber? No' date=' he is currently in Suspect testing. There are two major metagames with OU Pokemon; standard and suspect. When a Pokemon is being tested for brokenness, in this case Salamence, it is allowed in the STANDARD metagame but considered uber in the SUSPECT metagame. Both metagames are played normally, and Smogonites who play both metagames note differences, and come to a decision on whether 'Mence is really Uber or not. Originally, I said that 'Mence should totally be OU. But when I played the ladders a bit more, I realized that a Salamence with 1 DD is almost impossible to stop, and if you try to stop him and he ends up being MixMence, you are f[b'][/b]ucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 waitwut Was Salamence moved to Uber? No' date=' he is currently in Suspect testing. There are two major metagames with OU Pokemon; standard and suspect. When a Pokemon is being tested for brokenness, in this case Salamence, it is allowed in the STANDARD metagame but considered uber in the SUSPECT metagame. Both metagames are played normally, and Smogonites who play both metagames note differences, and come to a decision on whether 'Mence is really Uber or not. Originally, I said that 'Mence should totally be OU. But when I played the ladders a bit more, I realized that a Salamence with 1 DD is almost impossible to stop, and if you try to stop him and he ends up being MixMence, you are f[b'][/b]ucked. Poor Salamence. D: It was probably a rumor, but I heard Scizor might become a suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 waitwut Was Salamence moved to Uber? No' date=' he is currently in Suspect testing. There are two major metagames with OU Pokemon; standard and suspect. When a Pokemon is being tested for brokenness, in this case Salamence, it is allowed in the STANDARD metagame but considered uber in the SUSPECT metagame. Both metagames are played normally, and Smogonites who play both metagames note differences, and come to a decision on whether 'Mence is really Uber or not. Originally, I said that 'Mence should totally be OU. But when I played the ladders a bit more, I realized that a Salamence with 1 DD is almost impossible to stop, and if you try to stop him and he ends up being MixMence, you are f[b'][/b]ucked. Poor Salamence. D: It was probably a rumor, but I heard Scizor might become a suspect. Definitely a rumor. Scizor is a good Pokemon, but it can't threaten a majority of the metagame like Salamence can. It's just a really good revenge killer, which justifies its number one spot in Standard usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 waitwut Was Salamence moved to Uber? No' date=' he is currently in Suspect testing. There are two major metagames with OU Pokemon; standard and suspect. When a Pokemon is being tested for brokenness, in this case Salamence, it is allowed in the STANDARD metagame but considered uber in the SUSPECT metagame. Both metagames are played normally, and Smogonites who play both metagames note differences, and come to a decision on whether 'Mence is really Uber or not. Originally, I said that 'Mence should totally be OU. But when I played the ladders a bit more, I realized that a Salamence with 1 DD is almost impossible to stop, and if you try to stop him and he ends up being MixMence, you are f[b'][/b]ucked. Poor Salamence. D: It was probably a rumor, but I heard Scizor might become a suspect. Definitely a rumor. Scizor is a good Pokemon, but it can't threaten a majority of the metagame like Salamence can. It's just a really good revenge killer, which justifies its number one spot in Standard usage. Coo. There was another one too but I can't remember...I think it was Skarmory I'm not sure though...but Magikarp is an obvious candidate for Uber. I mean, it's just WAY to powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 *Ahem* Ice and Eury know' date=' but anyone else that has/had issues with Striker (Now War Torn) click Humility in my sig.[/quote'] Wow. Way to call in your friends. Move on, Mars. D: @Pogeymanz topic: The dawn of Dragonite draws near...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I did that a WHILE ago. If you notice, I posted a leaving response. Besides, I was taking full advantage of the wager that Striker set up. (I won a card contest, I got 2 reps and a Humility thread. He won, he got 2 reps). NOTE: I did not make those rules, he did. Look under his threads and see the contest. EDIT: New Humility thread. I acted completely differently... which will surprise you people, probably. He did this one without an obligation.http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-209985-post-4290067.html#pid4290067 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 He's acted like a complete douche before, and I am not one to give forgiveness. Although, YCM drama is YCM drama, and taking part in it just makes me fail. So, I refuse to take part in the thread further than the three posts I have already made. And no, not reall the dawn of Dragonite. Less base SpA, less base Spe, and altogether imo a worse movepool. ExtremeSpeed is one plus, Superpower is another, but the rest are all minuses. It does not and cannot replace 'Mence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godot Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 *Ahem* Ice and Eury know' date=' but anyone else that has/had issues with Striker (Now War Torn) click Humility in my sig.[/quote'] Wow. Way to call in your friends. Move on, Mars. D: I knew about it before. So he didn't really call me. He's acted like a complete douche before' date=' and I am not one to give forgiveness. Although, YCM drama is YCM drama, and taking part in it just makes me fail. So, I refuse to take part in the thread further than the three posts I have already made. And no, not reall the dawn of Dragonite. Less base SpA, less base Spe, and altogether imo a worse movepool. ExtremeSpeed is one plus, Superpower is another, but the rest are all minuses. It does not and cannot replace 'Mence.[/quote'] @1st Paragraph: THANK YOU. Right after Clair posts, everyone forgives him, which makes them all look like douchbags. I swear... @2nd Paragraph: Wait, so Dragonite is lowing stats? Ehh, 'Mence is better anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I actually did post one more time, because I agree ten-thousand percent about your post that everyone forgives him after Clair posts. In fact, sometimes I feel people just make multiple and multiple doubles to agree with them, although that is not viable in the slightest bit and no one really does that. But you understand my point; sometimes I feel like a few people control the sway of opinion in a thread. Hell, I've had that happen to me before, and I don't like it when I get yelled at for having people ride my dick. It's obviously their choice if they hang on for the ride; not mine. And yeah, Dragonite has a lot lower stats, meaning it can't effectively DDance. It can do a MixMence clone, and I guess it does have a better moveset, but it doesn't have the sheer power to take down walls from the other side of the spectrum. Sure, it can KO Skarm with Flamethrower and KO Blissey with Superpower, but it can't do much to heavy-duty walls like Suicune or specially-defensive Jirachi. Salamence, however, packs both Earthquake and higher offensive stats (base 1 for physical; base 10 for special). So, it definitely poses are more of a threat, and if Salamence gets banned (as we've seen in suspect), semi-stall and eventually pure-stall will rise. I want Gen V to come quicker than ever, purely from a competitive standpoint. I wasn't into competitive battling when the stall era of DPPt arose. I came after, when hyper-offense was big. As such, I cannot deal with stall at all. And I hope Gen V brings some more offensive threats to the table, to bring Salamence back into OU territory and thus end stall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I actually did post one more time' date=' because I agree ten-thousand percent about your post that everyone forgives him after Clair posts. [/quote'] Am I like, the only one who didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 *Ahem* Ice and Eury know' date=' but anyone else that has/had issues with Striker (Now War Torn) click Humility in my sig.[/quote'] Wow. Way to call in your friends. Move on, Mars. D: I knew about it before. So he didn't really call me. @1st Paragraph: THANK YOU. Right after Clair posts, everyone forgives him, which makes them all look like douchbags. I swear... I wasn't referring to you. I didn't say everybody had to agree with me, did I? I don't know why Brushfire is so critical of me, really. =/ Also, I pray that I am not the next Larxene, Ice. @pogeymanztopic: If Mence does get moved to Uber, what replaces him in the OU tier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Clair, don't worry. Brushfire was being the pr*ck, not you. He was attacking those against Striker before you =/ And he called me an arrogant @$$. I'm only arrogant with Striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 @pogeymanztopic: If Mence does get moved to Uber' date=' what replaces him in the OU tier?[/quote'] Flygon ftw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Clair' date=' don't worry. Brushfire was being the pr*ck, not you. He was attacking those against Striker before you =/ And he called me an arrogant @$$. I'm only arrogant with Striker.[/quote'] I know.You've been nothing but cordial to me. ;D @pogeymanztopic: If Mence does get moved to Uber' date=' what replaces him in the OU tier?[/quote'] Flygon ftw? Kingdra ftw? <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 @pogeymanztopic: If Mence does get moved to Uber' date=' what replaces him in the OU tier?[/quote'] Flygon ftw? Kingdra ftw? <3 ...fux. D: Uh...sheet. There's no more Dragons. .................... Gyarados ftw? <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Clair' date=' don't worry. Brushfire was being the pr*ck, not you. He was attacking those against Striker before you =/ And he called me an arrogant @$$. I'm only arrogant with Striker.[/quote'] I know.You've been nothing but cordial to me. ;D XD Yep, that's true ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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