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How many 5th gen pokemon do you think there is going to be?  

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  1. 1. How many 5th gen pokemon do you think there is going to be?

    • under 50
      18
    • over 50
      15
    • under 100
      24
    • over 100
      84
    • more than 150
      83

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Flame Dragon Enthusiast

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Wait, so Ditto's new ability is just insta-Transformation?

Yea, that's about it.

 

And to give more content to this post, I'll tell you what my next little project is. I'm working on a pokemon stat chart (like they have on serebii and pokebeach) and when I'm done I'll take that and group pokemon by typeso when you go to make a team you can see who is best stat wise. Also I'll post the gym leaders as well as the E4 teams.

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Who is that again? And way I don't think so since Serebii says different.http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/exclusives.shtml

 

yea i just checked that and it was some random person on pokebeach

 

and it looks like the Dark/Flying and Wargle were reversed with Wargle being on white and the Dark/Flying vulture black

 

and i am happy that i can get my team

 

except for this thing To get Shubargo and agirudaa YOU HAVE TO Trade the basic forms of them with the other

meaning to get Shubargo yo have to trade a Kapurumo with a Chobomaki via versa

 

Anys i saw that Sazanado's basic stage is found in Victory Road i am not really mad about the 1st Stage being at lv50 though it does make when you want to breed for one a pain

 

and can anyone find a map of Isshu with the routes labeled on it?

 

Also i like these attack : Heavy Bomber The heavier the user compares to target the stronger it is

Vemon Shock power doubles if hits a target that is posioned

 

Also this attack makes no sense

 

Shell breakit breaks own shell and it lowers its DEF n Sp. DEF BUT its ATK DEF n SPD sharply raise

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I don't really see why you can't play two or all three of the styles if you really wanted to, and people that actually switch over entirely won't actually matter when you consider the vast amount of people playing. Not to mention someone like you who seems unsure about switching to the trip system and as such will keep playing singles.

 

Eh, I don't really like the puzzles. None of them are legitimately challenging and tend to halt post-game exploration. And it isn't like all HMs, such as Dive or Waterfall, Surf, Rock Smash or Whirlphool can really be used in puzzles.

 

Dive and Rock Smash can definitely be used in puzzles, but they kind of refuse to make Rock Smash and Strength puzzles.

 

And I guess you're right. I'm just hoping in future gens it doesn't get out of hand and we have six-on-six battles. :/

 

Although I love how triple battles are ran differently than doubles, in terms of where you can and cannot attack. That's one plus for me.

 

http://kotaku.com/56...ures-of-pokemon

lol Trying to stop a Pokemon Fan Site from listing things from a game that is already out? Nintendo, you should enjoy the publicity, not shoot it down :P

 

I don't really know why they don't want pictures. I guess not to spoil the NA audience, but eh. Let's not bash them yet.

 

Who is that again? And way I don't think so since Serebii says different.

 

http://www.serebii.n...xclusives.shtml

 

Serebii may not be entirely correct. But either way, I need the sprites for those exclusives. D:

 

FD, does your sprite list have names with 'em? If so, can you link me? I need to see what Pokemon I'm missing out on if I forego White, although I'll definitely trade for those anyways.

 

Yea, that's about it.

 

And to give more content to this post, I'll tell you what my next little project is. I'm working on a pokemon stat chart (like they have on serebii and pokebeach) and when I'm done I'll take that and group pokemon by typeso when you go to make a team you can see who is best stat wise. Also I'll post the gym leaders as well as the E4 teams.

 

So Ditto doesn't need to use Transform anymore. =)

 

Also, what is Mewtwo's ultra-broken move?

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[spoiler=TM Changes]

 

TM01: Focus Punch --> Claw Sharpen

 

TM03: Water Pulse --> Psycho Shock

 

TM09: Bullet Seed --> Venom Shock

 

TM19: Giga Drain --> Telekinesis

 

TM23: Iron Tail --> ???

 

TM34: Shock Wave --> ???

 

TM43: Secret Power --> Nitro Charge

 

TM47: Steel Wing --> Ankle Sweep

 

TM48: Skill Swap --> ???

 

TM49: Snatch --> Echo Voice

 

TM51: Roost --> ???

 

TM55: Brine --> Boiling Water

 

TM58: Endure --> Free Fall

 

TM59: Dragon Pulse --> ???

 

TM60: Drain Punch -->

 

TM62: Silver Wind --> Acrobat

 

TM67: Recycle --> Get Even

 

TM72: Avalanch --> Volt Charge

 

TM76: Stealth Rock --> Bug Resistance

 

TM77: Psych Up --> ???

 

TM78: Captivate --> Smooth Over

 

TM79: Dark Pulse --> Ice Breath

 

TM82: Sleep Talk --> Dragon Tail

 

TM83: Natural Gift --> Cheer Up

 

TM93: Wild Volt

 

TM94: Rock Smash

 

 

 

These are just from Serebii, so the ones with ??? either mean that the TM won't be changed or that we don't know (haven't translated) what it'll be changed to.

 

Major ones are in bold. Pissed about losing Dragon + Dark Pulse, but I'm happy we lost SR. I hated an SR-dependant metagame. =)

 

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I hope Vitamins don't have a 100-EV-cap anymore, but I highly doubt they'd do that. EV training would be wayyy too easy.

 

As I stated before, I don't know how I'll like this gen. I never really played Gen II much, and I loved Gen III and loved Gen IV even more. Hopefully that trend continues, but I don't know.

 

Maybe because I don't have the time to read every article about BW at the moment, but I know pretty much everything there is to know... and it just doesn't sound like it's going to be better than Gen IV, in my eyes.

 

That's not even nostalgia goggles talking, either. I usually prefer new-school games to old-school games.

 

But anywho, how do you think Smogon will handle retesting (and then testing) of Pokemon when the BW metagame starts to stabilize?

 

I wasn't into competitive battling when the DP metagame first spurred, so I don't know how they handled it then. But not many people were into competitive battling in RSE because Netbattle was the only efficient way to do it; there was no WiFi. So they had an easier time with less people riding them about doing tiers. :/

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Serebii may not be entirely correct. But either way, I need the sprites for those exclusives. D:

 

FD, does your sprite list have names with 'em? If so, can you link me? I need to see what Pokemon I'm missing out on if I forego White, although I'll definitely trade for those anyways.

I have all the list as sprites soon. Yea, I'm not going to learn the names of the new pokemon just to have to learn new names. But short answer is Serebii says the difference is small.

 

So Ditto doesn't need to use Transform anymore. =)

 

Also, what is Mewtwo's ultra-broken move?

Yep.

 

It's a special move that hits your opponents DEF stat. We have a few of those.

 

I hope Vitamins don't have a 100-EV-cap anymore, but I highly doubt they'd do that. EV training would be wayyy too easy.

 

But anywho, how do you think Smogon will handle retesting (and then testing) of Pokemon when the BW metagame starts to stabilize?

It would be nice to get super easy EVs. Still I agree that odds are is another lie since past things (like T-Wave hitting ground types) have also shown to not be true (or so I read).

 

But anywho, how do you think Smogon will handle retesting (and then testing) of Pokemon when the BW metagame starts to stabilize?

 

I wasn't into competitive battling when the DP metagame first spurred, so I don't know how they handled it then. But not many people were into competitive battling in RSE because Netbattle was the only efficient way to do it; there was no WiFi. So they had an easier time with less people riding them about doing tiers. :/

My guess is play testing. It's going to be fun to watch things shape up. IMO Fire/Ghost dude is up their for pokemon that end up as uber, even without Shadow Tag that, imo, will be banned.

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Ya i like Wargle's Entries XD

 

black:Wargle (628): It fights for its friends’ sake without any regard to danger. It can grab a car and fly all the way up to the heavens with it.

white:Wargle 628: A fearless warrior of the sky. It’s said that the more wounds it has on its body, the more respect it gets from its comrades.

 

though he is not high in my want on my team list but i may play with him sometime

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Dive and Rock Smash can definitely be used in puzzles, but they kind of refuse to make Rock Smash and Strength puzzles.

 

And I guess you're right. I'm just hoping in future gens it doesn't get out of hand and we have six-on-six battles. :/

 

Although I love how triple battles are ran differently than doubles, in terms of where you can and cannot attack. That's one plus for me.

Yeah, one guy pointed out Dive and I realized RS could be used afterwards, but there are still a majority of useless HMs.

 

Sorry, but 6v6 is when I would get extremely interested. 4v4 and 5v5 are just plain weird, but at a point where you would have, say, two rows of three pokemon with a front and back I'd love to play around with it. Skipping 4v4 and 5v5 since they don't really work well would probably be best though.

 

Oh lawd, I love how brokenly balanced this gen is. Free Fall Zapdos.

"Free Fall (which he can learn via TM) puts whoever he's up against in the sky, unable to move. Thunder fucks people up who are in the sky, so basically, if you go first (base 100 speed isn't that slow), put the guy up in the sky, use thunder, rape him there, then he takes the damage from Free Fall (STAB'd to be base power 90), you're gonna do some serious damage."

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El Make Newbie

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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-----

 

Wargle is only in White and I bought BLACK D:

 

*pulls out AR*

 

Hehehehe....

 

I don't even understand this game, and I'm Nuzlocking under extreme conditions, yet I love this game. <3

 

Respect.

 

Anyways, anybody else interested in that High Link thing? Well, it's kind of something useless if you have no friends that play pokemon... but it SOUNDS sorta interesting. :/

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