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How many 5th gen pokemon do you think there is going to be?  

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  1. 1. How many 5th gen pokemon do you think there is going to be?

    • under 50
      18
    • over 50
      15
    • under 100
      24
    • over 100
      84
    • more than 150
      83


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I like the full body backsprites.

 

Same' date=' but it'll take a while to get used to.

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Yeah, because out of all the changes, that is the strangest one. I actually think it makes the most sense, as the sprites in general have always been getting more detailed. With the available battle area now given the amount of space of one DS screen, why not show the entire Pokemon?

 

My main beef with the Pokemon graphics is still mostly about the animations. When they pop onscreen and do their little thing, I don't expect a big budget production from them, but why is Nintendo being so lazy? The whole, mostly static body of the Pokemon shaking around onscreen/zooming in and out is just an illusion of movement. It looks way better for the Pokemon to simply flap its arms and open its mouth a couple times, maybe with some blinking too. More preferable than looking like it's having a seizure, that's for sure.

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I like the full body backsprites.

 

Same' date=' but it'll take a while to get used to.

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Yeah, because out of all the changes, that is the strangest one. I actually think it makes the most sense, as the sprites in general have always been getting more detailed. With the available battle area now given the amount of space of one DS screen, why not show the entire Pokemon?

 

My main beef with the Pokemon graphics is still mostly about the animations. When they pop onscreen and do their little thing, I don't expect a big budget production from them, but why is Nintendo being so lazy? The whole, mostly static body of the Pokemon shaking around onscreen/zooming in and out is just an illusion of movement. It looks way better for the Pokemon to simply flap its arms and open its mouth a couple times, maybe with some blinking too. More preferable than looking like it's having a seizure, that's for sure.

Lol agreed.

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I like the full body backsprites.

 

Same' date=' but it'll take a while to get used to.

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Yeah, because out of all the changes, that is the strangest one. I actually think it makes the most sense, as the sprites in general have always been getting more detailed. With the available battle area now given the amount of space of one DS screen, why not show the entire Pokemon?

 

My main beef with the Pokemon graphics is still mostly about the animations. When they pop onscreen and do their little thing, I don't expect a big budget production from them, but why is Nintendo being so lazy? The whole, mostly static body of the Pokemon shaking around onscreen/zooming in and out is just an illusion of movement. It looks way better for the Pokemon to simply flap its arms and open its mouth a couple times, maybe with some blinking too. More preferable than looking like it's having a seizure, that's for sure.

 

Gen II sprites were not like that. So those were better...

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Here are some Gen.II Pokemon sprites compared to the recent ones:

Spr_2c_157.gifSpr_3e_157.gifSpr_2c_213.gifSpr_3e_213.gifSpr_2c_206.gifSpr_3e_206.gifSpr_2c_242.gifSpr_3e_242.gifSpr_2c_185.gifSpr_3e_185.gifSpr_2c_230.gifSpr_3e_230.gifSpr_2c_189.gifSpr_3e_189.gif

Spr_2c_169.gifSpr_3e_169.gifSpr_2c_199.gifSpr_3e_199.gifSpr_2c_235.gifSpr_3e_235.gifSpr_2c_168.gifSpr_4h_168.pngSpr_2c_245.gifSpr_4h_245.pngSpr_2c_196.gifSpr_3e_196.gif

Spr_2c_244.gifSpr_4h_244.pngSpr_2c_232.gifSpr_3e_232.gifSpr_2c_225.gifSpr_3e_225.gifSpr_2c_193.gifSpr_3e_193.gifSpr_2c_224.gifSpr_3e_224.gifSpr_2c_221_s.gifSpr_3e_221.gifSpr_2c_250.gifSpr_4h_250.pngSpr_2c_211.gifSpr_3e_211.gifSpr_2c_201-V.gifSpr_3e_201-v.gifSpr_2c_237.gifSpr_3e_237.gifSpr_2c_203.gifSpr_3e_203.gifSpr_2c_154.gifSpr_4h_154_m.pngSpr_2c_207.gifSpr_3e_207.gifSpr_2c_195.gifSpr_3e_195.gifSpr_2c_176.gifSpr_3e_176.gifSpr_2c_192.gifSpr_3e_192.gifSpr_2c_198.gifSpr_3e_198.gifSpr_2c_209.gifSpr_3e_209.gifSpr_2c_165.gifSpr_3e_165.gifSpr_2c_166.gifSpr_3e_166.gifSpr_2c_236.gifSpr_3e_236.gifSpr_2c_219.gifSpr_3e_219.gif

Qwilfish is a rare example where zooming in and out is a natural expression of his movements. Most other ones they do that with don't work. Crystal Hitmontop looks faster than his counterpart, though the other one also looks good. Most of the old sprites have more subtle movements, instead of outright shaking around like someone's using telekinesis on them. Some of the newer ones might look better if they just toned down the movement. New Ledian is just right; a flying bug would probably move just like that.

 

Another complaint about the Pokemon visuals: gender differences. I most likely wouldn't have noticed at all if they hadn't announced they were there. I was expecting... I don't really know, but a difference of a few pixels on an already tiny image doesn't cut it. Wobuffett with lipstick? Fantastic. Different color scheme for Hippopotas/Hippowdon? Cool. A small black speck on the back of a Torchic? Where? Make the differences more obvious or don't even bother. They already have no effect on the gameplay.

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The new pictures are smex. The next time someone complains about Nintendo graphics' date=' I'll buy an extra copy of Pokemon Black/White and shove it up their ass.

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I shall complain, just so you can buy an extra copy, shove it up my ass so that I can surgically remove it later and laugh about how I gotz me free new pokeymaz. lol

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The new pictures are smex. The next time someone complains about Nintendo graphics' date=' I'll buy an extra copy of Pokemon Black/White and shove it up their ass.

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I shall complain, just so you can buy an extra copy, shove it up my ass so that I can surgically remove it later and laugh about how I gotz me free new pokeymaz. lol

 

So by letting him put a copy in your ass, the joke's on him?

 

EDIT: Is it the cart or the whole package?

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The new pictures are smex. The next time someone complains about Nintendo graphics' date=' I'll buy an extra copy of Pokemon Black/White and shove it up their ass.

[/quote']

 

I shall complain, just so you can buy an extra copy, shove it up my ass so that I can surgically remove it later and laugh about how I gotz me free new pokeymaz. lol

 

So by letting him put a copy in your ass, the joke's on him?

 

EDIT: Is it the cart or the whole package?

 

Yes the jokes on him, but he doesn't have to know. lol

As long as the cart comes with, I could care less if it's whole package or not.

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Here are some Gen.II Pokemon sprites compared to the recent ones:

Spr_2c_157.gifSpr_3e_157.gifSpr_2c_213.gifSpr_3e_213.gifSpr_2c_206.gifSpr_3e_206.gifSpr_2c_242.gifSpr_3e_242.gifSpr_2c_185.gifSpr_3e_185.gifSpr_2c_230.gifSpr_3e_230.gifSpr_2c_189.gifSpr_3e_189.gif

Spr_2c_169.gifSpr_3e_169.gifSpr_2c_199.gifSpr_3e_199.gifSpr_2c_235.gifSpr_3e_235.gifSpr_2c_168.gifSpr_4h_168.pngSpr_2c_245.gifSpr_4h_245.pngSpr_2c_196.gifSpr_3e_196.gif

Spr_2c_244.gifSpr_4h_244.pngSpr_2c_232.gifSpr_3e_232.gifSpr_2c_225.gifSpr_3e_225.gifSpr_2c_193.gifSpr_3e_193.gifSpr_2c_224.gifSpr_3e_224.gifSpr_2c_221_s.gifSpr_3e_221.gifSpr_2c_250.gifSpr_4h_250.pngSpr_2c_211.gifSpr_3e_211.gifSpr_2c_201-V.gifSpr_3e_201-v.gifSpr_2c_237.gifSpr_3e_237.gifSpr_2c_203.gifSpr_3e_203.gifSpr_2c_154.gifSpr_4h_154_m.pngSpr_2c_207.gifSpr_3e_207.gifSpr_2c_195.gifSpr_3e_195.gifSpr_2c_176.gifSpr_3e_176.gifSpr_2c_192.gifSpr_3e_192.gifSpr_2c_198.gifSpr_3e_198.gifSpr_2c_209.gifSpr_3e_209.gifSpr_2c_165.gifSpr_3e_165.gifSpr_2c_166.gifSpr_3e_166.gifSpr_2c_236.gifSpr_3e_236.gifSpr_2c_219.gifSpr_3e_219.gif

Qwilfish is a rare example where zooming in and out is a natural expression of his movements. Most other ones they do that with don't work. Crystal Hitmontop looks faster than his counterpart' date=' though the other one also looks good. Most of the old sprites have more subtle movements, instead of outright shaking around like someone's using telekinesis on them. Some of the newer ones might look better if they just toned down the movement. New Ledian is just right; a flying bug would probably move just like that.

 

Another complaint about the Pokemon visuals: gender differences. I most likely wouldn't have noticed at all if they hadn't announced they were there. I was expecting... I don't really know, but a difference of a few pixels on an already tiny image doesn't cut it. Wobuffett with lipstick? Fantastic. Different color scheme for Hippopotas/Hippowdon? Cool. A small black speck on the back of a Torchic? Where? Make the differences more obvious or don't even bother. They already have no effect on the gameplay.

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The sprites sure have come a long way.

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I wonder what the tenth gen is gonna be like.... ^.^

 

Ash: I finally caught em' all!

Oak: Actually Ash, an entirely new region with new Pokemon and its own government and citizens was just discovered.

Ash: How come we didn't find out until just now?

Oak: Don't look at me, blame Nintendo.

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I wonder what the tenth gen is gonna be like.... ^.^

 

Ash: I finally caught em' all!

Oak: Actually Ash' date=' an entirely new region with new Pokemon and its own government and citizens was just discovered.

Ash: How come we didn't find out until just now?

Oak: Don't look at me, blame Nintendo.

[b']Ash: FUUUUU-[/b]

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I wonder what the tenth gen is gonna be like.... ^.^

 

Ash: I finally caught em' all!

Oak: Actually Ash' date=' an entirely new region with new Pokemon and its own government and citizens was just discovered.

Ash: How come we didn't find out until just now?

Oak: Don't look at me, blame Nintendo.

[b']Ash: FUUUUU-[/b]

Oak: Oh, did I forget to mention? You won't be going there, we're going to create a new character with very bad clothes to take your place.

Ash: ...

Oak: Don't worry, you'll be returning in the third remake of Red and Blue.

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