Official Pokemon Black and White thread. (loads of new info with lots of spoilers)

[NeoDemonX]

Wow the 4 form for togepi would rape

[Clair]

Wow the 4 form for togepi would rape

 

If anyone would get a fourth form, Pikachu would. :/

 

Ninty loves the guy.

[Brushfire]

I can honestly say I never want to see a fourth evolution chain unless its: Egg Pokémon (half in it's egg)' date=' baby Pokémon, medium Pokémon, relatively large Pokémon.

 

It would be just too stupid otherwise.

 

EDIT: Actually, I could imagine Golem with an evolution...

[/quote']

 

You want a Togepi 4th form?

 

It would like like a medium-sized elephant. I'm okay. Also Nintendo hasn't even given Raichi an evo yet. ;o

[Clair]

I can honestly say I never want to see a fourth evolution chain unless its: Egg Pokémon (half in it's egg)' date=' baby Pokémon, medium Pokémon, relatively large Pokémon.

 

It would be just too stupid otherwise.

 

EDIT: Actually, I could imagine Golem with an evolution...

[/quote']

 

You want a Togepi 4th form?

 

It would like like a medium-sized elephant. I'm okay. Also Nintendo hasn't even given Raichi an evo yet. ;o

 

Ah. I misspoke.

 

I meant the 'Pikachu' family. ^^

 

Eh, Pokemon don't really need fourth forms yet, IMO.

[Aximil]

I can honestly say I never want to see a fourth evolution chain unless its: Egg Pokémon (half in it's egg)' date=' baby Pokémon, medium Pokémon, relatively large Pokémon.

 

It would be just too stupid otherwise.

 

EDIT: Actually, I could imagine Golem with an evolution...

[/quote']

 

You want a Togepi 4th form?

 

It would like like a medium-sized elephant. I'm okay. Also Nintendo hasn't even given Raichi an evo yet. ;o

 

Ah. I misspoke.

 

I meant the 'Pikachu' family. ^^

 

Eh, Pokemon don't really need fourth forms yet, IMO.

 

Branches come first.

[Zexaeon]

Digimon are horrendously overpowered anyway, generally speaking.

 

So yeah, nothing should have a 4th Evo.

[Tentacruel]

Digimon are horrendously overpowered anyway' date=' generally speaking.

 

So yeah, nothing should have a 4th Evo.

[/quote']

 

But what about pokemon who's first form is a baby, so the third form could really be considered a 2nd form. So in other words,

 

Wigglytuff

Raichu

Azumarill

Wobofet

ect.

 

Plus, how would you people feel if Charmeleon, Ivysaur and Warturtle each got a second evolution?

[Time Psyduck]

Digimon are horrendously overpowered anyway' date=' generally speaking.

 

So yeah, nothing should have a 4th Evo.

[/quote']

 

But what about pokemon who's first form is a baby, so the third form could really be considered a 2nd form. So in other words,

 

Wigglytuff

Raichu

Azumarill

Wobofet

ect.

 

Plus, how would you people feel if Charmeleon, Ivysaur and Warturtle each got a second evolution?

 

In-game, "Baby" doesn't actually mean anything, other than the fact that the first stage was introduced after the second one. None of the methods of evolution are unique to 'babies' except Mantyke (Globat/Chansey/Eevee use happiness, Yanma/Piloswine/Lickitung ect. use level-up with move, and Sneasel/Gligar use level-up with item), and although none of them can breed, they're not the only ones even discounting legendaries (Nidorina/Nidoqueen - despite Nidoran f being able to - and Togepi and Riolu. Ditto also can't produce any other ditto, only what it breeds with) All babies are simply non-breeding first forms introduced one or more generations after their evolved forms, and some (but not all) can only be obtained by breeding.

 

Thus where the evolution of a baby evolves again, that is the third form so there won't be another member of that line.

 

Edit: Oh, and I wouldn't really mind alternate evolutions for Ivysaur, Charmeleon and Wartortle as long as (a) all three got them, (b) the system of evolution was the same (e.g. level up in place, trade with item), and © they all balanced each other out in the way the current evolutions do. I'd prefer that they create something new, or evolve something else, but it wouldn't be that big of a deal as long as the 'starter' thing wasn't damaged.

[GraveHorizon]

Digimon are horrendously overpowered anyway' date=' generally speaking.

 

So yeah, nothing should have a 4th Evo.

[/quote']

 

But what about pokemon who's first form is a baby, so the third form could really be considered a 2nd form. So in other words,

 

Wigglytuff

Raichu

Azumarill

Wobofet

ect.

 

Plus, how would you people feel if Charmeleon, Ivysaur and Warturtle each got a second evolution?

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! That would be absolutely terrible, it would totally break the rules. I would be pissed.

[Lampbot]

More Dark, Dragon, Psychic, Water, Fire, and Electric types.

 

That's my whole party in Pokemon Platinum^

[Thesius]

More Dark' date=' Dragon, Psychic, [b']Water[/b], Fire, and Electric types.

 

That's my whole party in Pokemon Platinum^

 

But...there's more Water pokemon than any other type.

[Clair]

More Dark' date=' Dragon, Psychic, [b']Water[/b], Fire, and Electric types.

 

That's my whole party in Pokemon Platinum^

 

But...there's more Water pokemon than any other type.

 

He's right, you know.

 

That's like saying WE NEED MORE NORMAL/FLYING TYPES.

 

More Fire Types would be nice.

[GraveHorizon]

More Dark' date=' [b']Steel[/b], Ice, Poison, Fire, and Electric types.

 

That's my whole party in Pokemon Platinum^

 

Fixed.

 

If Light is introduced as a new type (which is just stupid), Poison should be strong against it. And they need to boost the speed of all text, while using all available space to display it, not just half the box at a time. And maybe group some sentences together in the same box, instead of spacing every one out on their own. Just whatever they can do to make the battles go faster. I'm tired of waiting for every little thing to finish being said before I can do anything. Some of us can actually read faster than a 3rd grader.

[Tunerwizard]

-There is an exceedingly high amount of bug, grass, water, and normal types, which they don't need many more of

-They need to add more of the following types to balance out the

ghost, poison, ground, rock, dark, steel!!!, and ice types.

 

Up Evolutions for: farfetche'd, mr.mime, jynx, furret, wobbuffet, dunsparce should evolve into gligar, qwilfish, shuckle, corsola, plusle and minun, spinda, castform, kecleon, chimecho, absol, pachirisu, cherrim, chatot!

 

Pre evolutions for- kangaskhan, scyther, pinsir, tauros, lapras, girafarig, onix, heracross, delibird!, skarmory, stantler, smeargle, milktank, wailmer, torkoal, lunatone and solrock, tropius(definately), spiritomb, carnivine

 

Those are just some of my ideas and i also agree they should have more of a trainer's use for battle items(no one uses them anymore)

[Flaring Rose]

There needs to be more Ice types.

I really feel that Weaville needs a evo, Jynx and Frosslas

[Aximil]

dunsparce should evolve into gligar

 

No. Dunsparce needs to evolve into something good. It will have it's own line if it ever evolves.

[Flaring Rose]

dunsparce should evolve into gligar

 

No. Dunsparce needs to evolve into something good. It will have it's own line if it ever evolves.

 

If it gets a good Evo. than i would use it for ever.

But there are already 2 new pokemon that appear in some Pokemon episode.

[Tunerwizard]

I'd like to see new good Pokemon without evolutions. And they should leave some (if not all) of the unevolved Pokemon alone. Evolution's cool' date=' but we still need those loners. A Ditto evolution? Really? If there's any Pokemon that doesn't need to evolve, it's Ditto. Also, Dunsparce. [b']Dunsparce is okay by itself.[/b]

 

Except it isn't.

 

Dunsparce has huge potential due to a scary big movepool and an excellent ability, as well as stats that can go any which way depending on what nature and EVs you use.

 

But the problem is that those stats themselves are just too low to actually back the poor thing up. This is why it needs an evolution. It just can't compete properly without one, and barely manages even in UU unless it has excellent support from its team.

 

 

So yea, Dunny for evolution.

 

[align=center]

 

Lookit that face. How can you deny him? DunDun loves you.[/align]

 

 

EDIT: Also, Tail Glow for Ampharos, Flare Blitz for Entei (without it having to be an event move), and a Sunny/Rain summoner that ISN'T an Uber.

 

Look at gligar compared to dunsparce. Nintendo must have something planned for them as dunsparce looks very similiar to gligar, especially the tail and fangs! Guess what! They are located right next to each other on the pokedex. Suspicious? Of course it is!

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dunsparce should evolve into gligar

 

No. Dunsparce needs to evolve into something good. It will have it's own line if it ever evolves.

 

Its too LATE!!! Nintendo made it look too similar to gligar. Look at the pokedex and compare the 2.

[GraveHorizon]

They should make:

Ice/Steel

Ice/Poison

Bug/Fire

Bug/Ice

Ghost/Steel

Fighting/Electric

Grass/Ghost

 

And a Dunsparce evolution can only be Normal/Dragon. If someone disagrees, there should be a vote.

[Flaring Rose]

They should make:

Ice/Steel

Ice/Poison

Bug/Fire

Bug/Ice

Ghost/Steel

Fighting/Electric

Grass/Ghost

 

And a Dunsparce evolution can only be Normal/Dragon. If someone disagrees' date=' there should be a vote.

[/quote']

 

Agreed.

Ice/fire would be a weird pokemon

Fire/Ghost

[Tunerwizard]

They should make:

Ice/Steel

Ice/Poison

Bug/Fire

Bug/Ice

Ghost/Steel

Fighting/Electric

Grass/Ghost

 

And a Dunsparce evolution can only be Normal/Dragon. If someone disagrees' date=' there should be a vote.

And i dont see how bug and fire would go together.

[/quote']

 

O jeez! I totally disagree and am tired of argueing about it.... read my previous posts on this page

[Flaring Rose]

They should make:

Ice/Steel

Ice/Poison

Bug/Fire

Bug/Ice

Ghost/Steel

Fighting/Electric

Grass/Ghost

 

And a Dunsparce evolution can only be Normal/Dragon. If someone disagrees' date=' there should be a vote.

And i dont see how bug and fire would go together.

[/quote']

 

O jeez! I totally disagree and am tired of argueing about it.... read my previous posts on this page

 

You never know, Dunsparce could have a totally different Evo. line.

[GraveHorizon]

They should make:

Ice/Steel

Ice/Poison

Bug/Fire

Bug/Ice

Ghost/Steel

Fighting/Electric

Grass/Ghost

 

And a Dunsparce evolution can only be Normal/Dragon. If someone disagrees' date=' there should be a vote.

[i']And i dont see how bug and fire would go together.[/i]

 

O jeez! I totally disagree and am tired of argueing about it.... read my previous posts on this page

 

You should alter your text when speaking inside a quote so it doesn't look like you're trying to put words in my mouth. That being said, how could you not see Bug and Fire going together? What about Water/Electric, Grass/Ice, and Ground/Flying? Do those make anymore sense? Are you telling me a firefly Pokemon would be illogical compared to those other combinations?

 

And about Dunsparce... You think it shouldn't evolve, or that it shouldn't be Normal/Dragon? You haven't really made your stance that clear.

 

EDIT: Okay, now I see. You were just spouting craziness. Dunsparce evolving into a pre-existing, unrelated Pokemon. Really? Why? How? It makes no sense.

[Tunerwizard]

They should make:

Ice/Steel

Ice/Poison

Bug/Fire

Bug/Ice

Ghost/Steel

Fighting/Electric

Grass/Ghost

 

And a Dunsparce evolution can only be Normal/Dragon. If someone disagrees' date=' there should be a vote.

[i']And i dont see how bug and fire would go together.[/i]

 

 

 

O jeez! I totally disagree and am tired of argueing about it.... read my previous posts on this page

 

You should alter your text when speaking inside a quote so it doesn't look like you're trying to put words in my mouth. That being said, how could you not see Bug and Fire going together? What about Water/Electric, Grass/Ice, and Ground/Flying? Do those make anymore sense? Are you telling me a firefly Pokemon would be illogical compared to those other combinations?

 

And about Dunsparce... You think it shouldn't evolve, or that it shouldn't be Normal/Dragon? You haven't really made your stance that clear.

 

EDIT: Okay, now I see. You were just spouting craziness. Dunsparce evolving into a pre-existing, unrelated Pokemon. Really? Why? How? It makes no sense.

 

tunerwizard150: Well, they look quite similiar and are right next to each other on pokedex. However, if you are right then... Nintendo was quite screwy w/dunsparce's appearance.

Examples of why some types work unlike fire and bug- there is no one animal on earth that could possibly represent one like so these though do indeed rep poke types:

elec/water:jellyfish emit elecric energy waves to emit light

grnd/fly: tell me 1 bird that doesnt walk

grass/ice: trees do survive in the snow!

[Flaring Rose]

They should make:

Ice/Steel

Ice/Poison

Bug/Fire

Bug/Ice

Ghost/Steel

Fighting/Electric

Grass/Ghost

 

And a Dunsparce evolution can only be Normal/Dragon. If someone disagrees' date=' there should be a vote.

[i']And i dont see how bug and fire would go together.[/i]

 

 

 

O jeez! I totally disagree and am tired of argueing about it.... read my previous posts on this page

 

You should alter your text when speaking inside a quote so it doesn't look like you're trying to put words in my mouth. That being said, how could you not see Bug and Fire going together? What about Water/Electric, Grass/Ice, and Ground/Flying? Do those make anymore sense? Are you telling me a firefly Pokemon would be illogical compared to those other combinations?

 

And about Dunsparce... You think it shouldn't evolve, or that it shouldn't be Normal/Dragon? You haven't really made your stance that clear.

 

EDIT: Okay, now I see. You were just spouting craziness. Dunsparce evolving into a pre-existing, unrelated Pokemon. Really? Why? How? It makes no sense.

 

tunerwizard150: Well, they look quite similiar and are right next to each other on pokedex. However, if you are right then... Nintendo was quite screwy w/dunsparce's appearance.

Examples of why some types work unlike fire and bug- there is no one animal on earth that could possibly represent one like so these though do indeed rep poke types:

elec/water:jellyfish emit elecric energy waves to emit light

grnd/fly: tell me 1 bird that doesnt walk

grass/ice: trees do survive in the snow!

 

Sand fly.