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How many 5th gen pokemon do you think there is going to be?  

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  1. 1. How many 5th gen pokemon do you think there is going to be?

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Maybe Jynx would have a post-evolved form and it'll look like a supermodel' date=' or one of those girls from the Ikki Tousen series.

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isn't post-evolved the same as a pre-evo?

 

Post is after, pre is before.

 

 

Yeah, but i'm sure i- ah forget it, now that i thought about it your right.

 

But if they do give Jynx an evo, which they WILL, is it going to be ugly or not?

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Maybe Jynx would have a post-evolved form and it'll look like a supermodel' date=' or one of those girls from the Ikki Tousen series.

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isn't post-evolved the same as a pre-evo?

 

Post is after, pre is before.

 

 

Yeah, but i'm sure i- ah forget it, now that i thought about it your right.

 

But if they do give Jynx an evo, which they WILL, is it going to be ugly or not?

 

Most likely not. But I'm going to be pissed if there is no Dunsparce evolution.

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Maybe Jynx would have a post-evolved form and it'll look like a supermodel' date=' or one of those girls from the Ikki Tousen series.

[/quote']

 

isn't post-evolved the same as a pre-evo?

 

Post is after, pre is before.

 

 

Yeah, but i'm sure i- ah forget it, now that i thought about it your right.

 

But if they do give Jynx an evo, which they WILL, is it going to be ugly or not?

 

Most likely not. But I'm going to be pissed if there is no Dunsparce

evolution.

 

Yes DunDun's usable older brother.

 

I know this has been discussed over and over but an Absol evo would be godly, but OU

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Maybe Jynx would have a post-evolved form and it'll look like a supermodel' date=' or one of those girls from the Ikki Tousen series.

[/quote']

 

isn't post-evolved the same as a pre-evo?

 

Post is after, pre is before.

 

 

Yeah, but i'm sure i- ah forget it, now that i thought about it your right.

 

But if they do give Jynx an evo, which they WILL, is it going to be ugly or not?

 

Most likely not. But I'm going to be pissed if there is no Dunsparce

evolution.

 

Yes DunDun's usable older brother.

 

I know this has been discussed over and over but an Absol evo would be godly, but OU

 

If they do it right, Dunsparce's evolution will shoot straight up to OU. And if they evolve Absol, I bet they'll screw it up.

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I thought Space would be an interesting type' date=' and Jirachi, Solrock, Lunatone and Clefable fit the criteria to be labeled as such right off the bat.

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What would that type's weaknesses/resistances be?

 

I was thinking of resistances to things along the line of Psychic and Dark, but on account of their being new to the planet, common bacteria would harm them. For that reason and the sake of balance, Normal would be Super Effective against Space. Maybe Ice as well.

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I thought Space would be an interesting type' date=' and Jirachi, Solrock, Lunatone and Clefable fit the criteria to be labeled as such right off the bat.

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What would that type's weaknesses/resistances be?

 

I was thinking of resistances to things along the line of Psychic and Dark, but on account of their being new to the planet, common bacteria would harm them. For that reason and the sake of balance, Normal would be Super Effective against Space. Maybe Ice as well.

 

How about Void for the name instead of 'Space'? Space just sounds kinda lame.

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I've come back from the dead to post in this topic, since I dun play Yugiohs much anymore.

 

ANYWAYS~ My Predictions/Wants/Thoughts:

 

Black and White, nice titles, calling it now that the third version is called Rainbow. All based around a Dark legendary, which represents evil, a newly introduced Light type legendary, which represents purity and good, and some third Pokemon who's type I'm not sure of, that represents balance. (Like a Yin-Yang sort of thing)

 

Light type Pokemon are introduced: they take characteristics of ethereal beings like angels and whatnot, also just had a thought of a lightbulb Pokemon.

Aximil Wrote: Light and Dark would be weak to each other. Light would be strong against Ghosts. Light would have a resistance to Electric. Light would be half damage to Steel' date=' or flat out not effect it.[/quote']

 

The total amount of Pokemon is brought to 570-610. Counting the game mascots, at least ten of the newly introduced Pokemon are legendary.

 

The starters, as of their final stages would be typed like so:

Grass/Dark

Fire/Psychic

Water/Fighting

 

A dark type gym is introduced.

 

Whether you people like it or not, I feel the only way certain Pokemon that are usually grouped together need pre evolutions.

 

Tauros and Miltank get a baby form, which has very obvious gender differences and evolves into the later depending on the gender.

 

Kanghaskahn's child is listed as it's own species, for once. I find it hard to believe that a Kanghaskahn that just hatched already has a child.

 

Solrock and Lunatone get a generic meteorite looking thing. evolution uses Sun and moon stones or level up at a certain time of day/place.

 

Pokemon gyms and Elite four members are no longer restricted to a single type, so one gym may base it's entire strategy around Sandstorm, and another might just have a team full of Blissey's and Shuckles.

 

Moar anime references in NPC trainer teams. Ash caught a Gible, it's only fair that if Red appears again, he uses a Garchomp.

 

Hoenn: Either remake only Emerald, or make Hoenn accessible as a post-league area like Kanto was for G/S/C and HG/SS.

 

Black and White get enhancements when played on the 3DS, like Gold and Silver did when played on the Game Boy Color. The third version is a 3DS exclusive, like Crystal was for the GBC.

 

HMs are made to be more useful in battle and can be deleted at any time, or some HMs have their functions replaced by key items. (Scuba Gear, instead of dive, a surfboard for Surf, jetpack for fly, etc.)

 

The new vehicle is an ATV or dirt bike.

 

Black and White come with little wireless devices with DS card slots in them. Their purpose is to migrate Pokemon from the gen 4 games to gen 5.

 

I approve of the overworld sprites for the player characters, I only need to see official art.

 

Wifi-features are greatly expanded upon, Battle Frontier is a default.

 

Type combo's I'd like to see:

Bug/Fire (fire ants?)

Pure Flying (possibly, a new Eeveelution)

Light/Flying (Angel looking thing~)

Ice/ Fighting,

Fully evolved pure Dragon. (also another possible new one for eevee)

Steel/Grass

Fire/Psychic (as the fire starter)

Normal/Ghost

Ghost/Fire

Dark/Psychic

Dragon/Dark

Dragon/Light

Steel/Ghost

Rock/Dragon (New fossil?)

Rock/Ice (new fossil?)

 

 

Moar fire types, more useful ice types and more ghost types are needed. I do not want to be limited to Ponyta for the entire story if I don't choose the fire starter.

 

Reorganized national pokedex to froup all evolution families with each other.

 

More uses for evolution stones. Seriously, the Thunder stone and Sun Stone only evolve two Pokemon each, and are common as hell to find. Meanwhile, moon stones have the most Pokemon to evolve, and are so rare.

 

This, is probably going to receive a lot of criticism, but two more move slots on a Pokemon, specially reserved for HM moves or out of battle moves, like Dig and Teleport. Basically, you get six moves in battle and two of them are set aside for moves used outside of battle only. This means your Pokemon, will be free of attacks nobody wants in competitive play.

 

And that, concludes my rant. Fee free to pick at it and bask in the possibilities.

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We really don't need any more types, everything is already balanced enough.

 

@Corpral: Thing is space is called "space" because there's nothing there, it's just a big empty "space", it's nothing. For that reason you might as well call it normal.

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We really don't need any more types' date=' everything is already balanced enough.

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I'd like to see new types for innovation rather than balance. New types means more unique Pokémon, which is a good thing.

 

On a completely unrelated note, I love how everyone still use #FFFFFF in their sigs for 'invisible' text instead of #EBEBEB.

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I liked your post Ninja.

Especially the fact of a pure dragon type. All dragon type pokemon are 4x effective against ice types.

Light would also be nice. Especially some Normal pokemon would probably become Light

I also like the type combos of your ideal starter types.

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Sure guys' date=' completely ignore my post. Much appreciated.

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Sorry, I did read it but I thought it was too long to quote the whole thing and I was feeling lazy. I agree with all points stated, including the one regarding the moves (goodbye HM slaves!) and types.

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I've come back from the dead to post in this topic' date=' since I dun play Yugiohs much anymore.

 

ANYWAYS~ My Predictions/Wants/Thoughts:

 

Black and White, nice titles, calling it now that the third version is called Rainbow. All based around a Dark legendary, which represents evil, a newly introduced Light type legendary, which represents purity and good, and some third Pokemon who's type I'm not sure of, that represents balance. (Like a Yin-Yang sort of thing)

 

[b']Rainbow is very Ho-oh-related. It would be something more like Pokemon Twilight *get's shot*

I'm almost sure there will be no Light-type

There is always almost always a third pokemon and will be the mascot of a third game...[/b]

 

 

Light type Pokemon are introduced: they take characteristics of ethereal beings like angels and whatnot, also just had a thought of a lightbulb Pokemon.

Aximil Wrote: Light and Dark would be weak to each other. Light would be strong against Ghosts. Light would have a resistance to Electric. Light would be half damage to Steel' date=' or flat out not effect it.[/quote']

 

I don't think there will be a Light-type

 

The total amount of Pokemon is brought to 570-610. Counting the game mascots, at least ten of the newly introduced Pokemon are legendary.

 

That's normal...

 

The starters, as of their final stages would be typed like so:

Grass/Dark

Fire/Psychic

Water/Fighting

I suppose there will always be at least 1 starter that gains no new type during evolution...

 

A dark type gym is introduced.

 

I wish, but it hasn't happened yet...

 

Whether you people like it or not, I feel the only way certain Pokemon that are usually grouped together need pre evolutions.

 

Tauros and Miltank get a baby form, which has very obvious gender differences and evolves into the later depending on the gender.

 

Kanghaskahn's child is listed as it's own species, for once. I find it hard to believe that a Kanghaskahn that just hatched already has a child.

 

Solrock and Lunatone get a generic meteorite looking thing. evolution uses Sun and moon stones or level up at a certain time of day/place.

 

Those are overused ideas.

 

 

Pokemon gyms and Elite four members are no longer restricted to a single type, so one gym may base it's entire strategy around Sandstorm, and another might just have a team full of Blissey's and Shuckles.

 

Elites maybe, but I think gyms will stay the same...

 

Moar anime references in NPC trainer teams. Ash caught a Gible, it's only fair that if Red appears again, he uses a Garchomp.

 

I hope there is nothing related to the anime. I hope there are more manga references...

 

 

Hoenn: Either remake only Emerald, or make Hoenn accessible as a post-league area like Kanto was for G/S/C and HG/SS.

 

I don't think RSE are old enough to get a remake, or have an old enough engine...

Black and White get enhancements when played on the 3DS, like Gold and Silver did when played on the Game Boy Color. The third version is a 3DS exclusive, like Crystal was for the GBC.

 

That's a possibility...

 

HMs are made to be more useful in battle and can be deleted at any time, or some HMs have their functions replaced by key items. (Scuba Gear, instead of dive, a surfboard for Surf, jetpack for fly, etc.)

 

That would make HMs nothing more than TMs...

 

The new vehicle is an ATV or dirt bike.

 

A bike is good enough...

 

Black and White come with little wireless devices with DS card slots in them. Their purpose is to migrate Pokemon from the gen 4 games to gen 5.

 

I don't know...

 

I approve of the overworld sprites for the player characters, I only need to see official art.

 

The sprite looks like Jaden fused with Ash...

 

Wifi-features are greatly expanded upon, Battle Frontier is a default.

Battle frontier will be only Battle tower in B/W, the rest will be added in the third game, so people have more reasons to buy it.

 

Type combo's I'd like to see:

Bug/Fire (fire ants?)

Pure Flying (possibly, a new Eeveelution)

Light/Flying (Angel looking thing~)

Ice/ Fighting,

Fully evolved pure Dragon. (also another possible new one for eevee)

Steel/Grass

Fire/Psychic (as the fire starter)

Normal/Ghost

Ghost/Fire

Dark/Psychic

Dragon/Dark

Dragon/Light

Steel/Ghost

Rock/Dragon (New fossil?)

Rock/Ice (new fossil?)

 

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Moar fire types, more useful ice types and more ghost types are needed. I do not want to be limited to Ponyta for the entire story if I don't choose the fire starter.

 

There are few Fire-types, but we don't need so much of them. Just add all the already existing plus a couple more in the same region and it will look like there are a lot...

 

Reorganized national pokedex to froup all evolution families with each other.

 

The National Pokedex will not be touched. It will be National, Regional. A third one would be cool but without touching the others...

 

More uses for evolution stones. Seriously, the Thunder stone and Sun Stone only evolve two Pokemon each, and are common as hell to find. Meanwhile, moon stones have the most Pokemon to evolve, and are so rare.

 

This is good.

 

This, is probably going to receive a lot of criticism, but two more move slots on a Pokemon, specially reserved for HM moves or out of battle moves, like Dig and Teleport. Basically, you get six moves in battle and two of them are set aside for moves used outside of battle only. This means your Pokemon, will be free of attacks nobody wants in competitive play.

 

Just no. In my opinion...

 

And that, concludes my rant. Fee free to pick at it and bask in the possibilities.

 

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Where would the new region be if it Hoenn turned into an accesible point?

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Rainbow is very Ho-oh-related. It would be something more like Pokemon Twilight *get's shot*

I'm almost sure there will be no Light-type

There is always almost always a third pokemon and will be the mascot of a third game...

 

Light type has been hinted at already.

 

Those are overused ideas.

 

How are they possibly overused if they haven't happened? Fail.

 

Elites maybe' date=' but I think gyms will stay the same...[/b']

 

Gyms SHOULD stay the same.

 

I hope there is nothing related to the anime. I hope there are more manga references...

 

Indeed. Pokémon Special >>>>>>>>>> anime.

 

I don't think RSE are old enough to get a remake, or have an old enough engine...

 

Uh... no. They are 8 years old and they engine is very outdated, even FireRed's was better. You just haven't realised how much time has past, they are only a couple of years 'younger' than GSC.

 

A bike is good enough...

 

But getting old now imo.

 

Just no. In my opinion...

 

But yes. I'm tired of having a HM slave, it won't happen but it would be handy.

 

 

Regions.png

 

Where would the new region be if it Hoenn turned into an accesible point?

 

To the left, take a boat to get there?

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Light type Pokemon are introduced: they take characteristics of ethereal beings like angels and whatnot' date=' also just had a thought of a lightbulb Pokemon.

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The problem with adding a new type is very few pokemon will work in it and very few moves could fit into said new type. Sure their will be a few, but for the most part the type will be almost useless unless they really try to sell it which i just don't see happening.

 

A dark type gym is introduced.

After three gens of not getting one I'm saying the odds of us getting one now are small.

 

Pokemon gyms and Elite four members are no longer restricted to a single type' date=' so one gym may base it's entire strategy around Sandstorm, and another might just have a team full of Blissey's and Shuckles.

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Again, I don't see this happening. The type gyms have been around from the start and I see no reason to think that they will change something that has worked so well.

 

Hoenn: Either remake only Emerald' date=' or make Hoenn accessible as a post-league area like Kanto was for G/S/C and HG/SS.

[/quote']

While it can happen that Hoen will be part of the post - league stuff if they make remakes it will be of R/S.

 

HMs are made to be more useful in battle and can be deleted at any time' date=' or some HMs have their functions replaced by key items. (Scuba Gear, instead of dive, a surfboard for Surf, jetpack for fly, etc.)

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If they can be removed at any time that will make them reuseable TMs. Odds are that won't change.

 

The new vehicle is an ATV or dirt bike.

Bike has been around from gen 1 so odds are that won't change unless it is something like a dirt bike which be almost the same.

 

Pure Flying (possibly' date=' a new Eeveelution)

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Again, they wanted to give us a pure flying type we would have gotten one by now. Really, all the Normal / Flying types we have could work as pure Flying and the fact that they refuse to do so tells me it won't happen.

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Light type Pokemon are introduced: they take characteristics of ethereal beings like angels and whatnot' date=' also just had a thought of a lightbulb Pokemon.

Aximil Wrote: Light and Dark would be weak to each other. Light would be strong against Ghosts. Light would have a resistance to Electric. Light would be half damage to Steel, or flat out not effect it.

 

No Light types.

 

The starters, as of their final stages would be typed like so:

Grass/Dark

Nice

Fire/Psychic

Probably not

Water/Fighting

Also nice

 

Pokemon gyms and Elite four members are no longer restricted to a single type, so one gym may base it's entire strategy around Sandstorm, and another might just have a team full of Blissey's and Shuckles.

 

The 1st bit, yes. The second second, no.

 

HMs are made to be more useful in battle and can be deleted at any time, or some HMs have their functions replaced by key items. (Scuba Gear, instead of dive, a surfboard for Surf, jetpack for fly, etc.)

 

Nah

 

The new vehicle is an ATV or dirt bike.

 

That would be cool but it won't happen.

 

Type combo's I'd like to see:

Bug/Fire (fire ants?)

Pure Flying (possibly, a new Eeveelution)

I reckon a pure Flying Legendary would be better

Steel/Grass

Ghost/Fire

Steel/Ghost

Rock/Dragon (New fossil?)

Rock/Ice (new fossil?)

Sure to all of the above

 

Moar fire types, more useful ice types and more ghost types are needed. I do not want to be limited to Ponyta for the entire story if I don't choose the fire starter.

 

There are already enough useful Ice Types but some more wouldn't hurt. A decent pure Fire type would be nice.[/b]

 

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