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How many 5th gen pokemon do you think there is going to be?  

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  1. 1. How many 5th gen pokemon do you think there is going to be?

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Maybe half of the moveset Physical moves and the other half Special attack moves? That way, you'll be able to utilize both Modes.

Smart. I thought Belly Drum was unneeded anyways. How about:

- Psychic

- Brick Break

- Fire Punch

- Swords Dance / Calm Mind / Bulk Up

 

If I use Calm Mind, I won't need a second Special Attack. The other 2 are mainly for abusing Darmanitans awesome Attack Stats.

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Smart. I thought Belly Drum was unneeded anyways. How about:

- Psychic

- Brick Break

- Fire Punch

- Swords Dance / Calm Mind / Bulk Up

 

If I use Calm Mind, I won't need a second Special Attack. The other 2 are mainly for abusing Darmanitans awesome Attack Stats.

 

The one problem being that once its HP drops below half its value for Attack and Special Attack switch, making only 1 move powerful.

 

Since it seems you're going for the Fire/Psychic moveset, how about:

 

Flamethrower

Psychic

Fire Punch

Psyshock

 

Psyshock in that even though it's a Special Attack it deals Physical damage.

If you wanted, you could use Brick Break instead of Fire Punch, but it's up to you.

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I guess I'll work on Darmanitan later. How about for Cofagrigus? Right now I have:

- Shadow Ball

- Hex

- Toxic

- Payback

 

I'm thinking Payback is unneeded though, and want to replace it for either Will-o-Wisp or maybe even Disable.

 

However, I don't want this to be my 'Annoyer', because I plan on having my Mismagius being one with the following Moves:

- Hex

- Thunder Wave

- Toxic

- Will-o-Wisp

 

So yeah, opinions on Cofagrigus's moves will be appreciated. I also find it stupid how they can both learn the move Dream Eater, yet can't learn the move Hypnosis. Useless I say.

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I guess I'll work on Darmanitan later. How about for Cofagrigus? Right now I have:

- Shadow Ball

- Hex

- Toxic

- Payback

 

I'm thinking Payback is unneeded though, and want to replace it for either Will-o-Wisp or maybe even Disable.

 

However, I don't want this to be my 'Annoyer', because I plan on having my Mismagius being one with the following Moves:

- Hex

- Thunder Wave

- Toxic

- Will-o-Wisp

 

So yeah, opinions on Cofagrigus's moves will be appreciated. I also find it stupid how they can both learn the move Dream Eater, yet can't learn the move Hypnosis. Useless I say.

 

For Cofagrigus, I'd go ahead and replace Payback with Will-o-Wisp, but since you have Toxic already there to utilize Hex, you could use Ominous Wind instead if you wanted.

It's up to you though.

 

Your Mismagius is going to make so many Trainers mad xD

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For Cofagrigus, I'd go ahead and replace Payback with Will-o-Wisp, but since you have Toxic already there to utilize Hex, you could use Ominous Wind instead if you wanted.It's up to you though.Your Mismagius is going to make so many Trainers mad xD

Ominous Wind would be pretty nice. Especially with the 10% of having all my stats going up 1. Would Night Shade be a good choice to? It has STAB and right now my Cofagrigus is Level 75. Also, what are your opinions on Disable? Or Curse even? Sorry I'm dumping this all on you, it's just your the only other dude on this thread right now xD

 

Annoyers = Fun Fun Fun. Mismagius has nothing over any Pokemon with Prankster though.

 

Really wish Cofagrigus / Mismagius could learn Hypnosis though. I really do.

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Ominous Wind would be pretty nice. Especially with the 10% of having all my stats going up 1. Would Night Shade be a good choice to? It has STAB and right now my Cofagrigus is Level 75. Also, what are your opinions on Disable? Or Curse even? Sorry I'm dumping this all on you, it's just your the only other dude on this thread right now xD

 

Annoyers = Fun Fun Fun. Mismagius has nothing over any Pokemon with Prankster though.

 

Night Shade would have to depend on the situation, since it only deals damage equal to the user's Level.

I never saw any use in Disable or Curse, to be honest. I actually never used a Pokemon that knew those moves. I guess they'd be good as an Annoyer's moves, though.

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Night Shade would have to depend on the situation, since it only deals damage equal to the user's Level.

I never saw any use in Disable or Curse, to be honest. I actually never used a Pokemon that knew those moves. I guess they'd be good as an Annoyer's moves, though.

I guess Night Shade would be pretty good at Level 100 for me then + STAB. Curse either forces a switch, or causes you to make the opposing Pokemon lose 1/4 of their HP until it dies, or until they finally think of switching. Disable just was a thought really. I guess I'll go for either Night Shade or Ominous Wind.

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I guess Night Shade would be pretty good at Level 100 for me then + STAB. Curse either forces a switch, or causes you to make the opposing Pokemon lose 1/4 of their HP until it dies, or until they finally think of switching. Disable just was a thought really. I guess I'll go for either Night Shade or Ominous Wind.

 

It's just a matter of whether you want a move that offers a possible +1 for all stats or a move that packs a punch later on.

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It's just a matter of whether you want a move that offers a possible +1 for all stats or a move that packs a punch later on.

I guess I'll go for Ominous Wind later on and stick with Payback for now. Only because a 75+ STAB may be decent, but I don't think is enough for now. Besides, Shadow Ball already does deal a bit of a packed punch while has a 20% to decrease their Special Defense, so an attack that just does nothing but damage of 100 + STAB won't hurt me. Hex also will deal double + STAB when with Toxic, that will just get worse and worse overtime.

 

I figure this is the best place for it...

 

Hydreigon

Modest

4 HP, 252 SpAtk, 252 Sp

21/19/20/22/22/29

 

Dragon Pulse

Surf

Flamethrower

Hyper Beam / Tri Attack

 

Which should I go for?

Tri Attack or Hbeam?

I'd actually go for a Flying Move in there to ward off Fighting and Bug Types. Perhaps Acrobatics if your Hydreigon won't be holding any item of sorts. Also, why no Dragon Dance? I'd go for something like, Dragon Dance, Dragon Pulse, Acrobatics / Fly, then one move of your choice if it were me. I know that my brother is doing something like this for his Hydreigon.

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I'd actually go for a Flying Move in there to ward off Fighting and Bug Types. Perhaps Acrobatics if your Hydreigon won't be holding any item of sorts. Also, why no Dragon Dance? I'd go for something like, Dragon Dance, Dragon Pulse, Acrobatics / Fly, then one move of your choice if it were me. I know that my brother is doing something like this for his Hydreigon.

 

I was thinking about either a choice scarf or life orb...

I'd rather take advantage of it being a SpAtk powerhouse, and using a Physical attack would require a Naive Hydreigon, which I really don't want to go through the trouble to work on.

He can't learn Dragon Dance, though.

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I was thinking about either a choice scarf or life orb...

I'd rather take advantage of it being a SpAtk powerhouse, and using a Physical attack would require a Naive Hydreigon, which I really don't want to go through the trouble to work on.

He can't learn Dragon Dance, though.

What? I could've sworn it can learn Dragon Dance though. Eh, I guess that would be too over-the-top anyways right?

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I figure this is the best place for it...

 

Hydreigon

Modest

4 HP, 252 SpAtk, 252 Sp

21/19/20/22/22/29

 

Dragon Pulse

Surf

Flamethrower

Hyper Beam / Tri Attack

 

Which should I go for?

Tri Attack or Hbeam?

 

Keep Flamethrower; it'll ward off Bug and Ice Pokemon.

My Hydreigon's moveset is Crunch, Outrage, Dragon Pulse, and Flamethrower; then again, it's second highest stat is Attack, so it's understandable.

I'd at least recommend teaching your Hydreigon Crunch, so that it'd get the STAB, but that's just me.

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I've never been to Dream World yet, and probably never will.

 

 

So my Escavalier is like my favorite Bug Pokemon. EVAR. Its design is amazing IMO.

It's currently lv. 88 and has the 2nd highest level, attack, and defense in my White Version. Unfortunately, it's speed is 86.

IT'S SO FREAKIN' SLOW >.>

 

I still like it nonetheless xD

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Entralink is already confusing. I had to struggle with it so much.....and I'll probably never use Dream World.

 

So I accidentally shut off my DS's power, and it went back since its last save point, and I'm back down to mid 90's. <_>

There's nothing else to do but challenge the Subway Master guys. I tried getting a Rotom and making it change forms, but went I shut off the power, no Rotom...

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Anybody wanna be a doll and trade me a Snivy and/or Tepig? :)

 

I'm sure somebody's got an AR with cheats

I will, but it'll take a little time for me to muster up the will-power to actually breed them.

 

Would you mind waiting a day or two? I'll probably have them by Saturday.

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I will, but it'll take a little time for me to muster up the will-power to actually breed them.

 

Would you mind waiting a day or two? I'll probably have them by Saturday.

 

Yeah no problem. Do you have both Snivy and Tepig?

 

Message me so we dont flood this thread

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I figure this is the best place for it...

 

Hydreigon

Modest

4 HP, 252 SpAtk, 252 Sp

21/19/20/22/22/29

 

Dragon Pulse

Surf

Flamethrower

Hyper Beam / Tri Attack

 

Which should I go for?

Tri Attack or Hbeam?

 

Actually, what you should have done was breed a Deino that could learn either Dark Pulse or Earth Power - those would be much more effective for Hydreigon.

However, if that's not a possibility, perhaps Focus Blast would be a possible alternative...

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Ace. I might play White to the point I can trade to Black, then restart. I might just grab a Pokemon from each gen.

So Dragonair, Houndoom, Flygon, Torterra dunno about 5th probably the Water starter.

 

Or not restart screw getting all the starters. I need to get a second Victini which White has unactivated for my friend Cameron.

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