Official Pokemon Black and White thread. (loads of new info with lots of spoilers)

[Dark]

I... haven't encounted a shiny in Black, and probably never will.

 

I prefer Pokeradar for my shinies. BRING IT BACK, NINTY! D:

 

Also, Vanillish sucks. Hard. All it does is spams Ice Beam and hopes it kills something. Hell, my Joltik which is five levels under can KO things more frequently.

[OnSlaUghT]

Blaziken is Uber? Since when?

[Flame Dragon]

I... haven't encounted a shiny in Black, and probably never will.

 

I prefer Pokeradar for my shinies. BRING IT BACK, NINTY! D:

 

Also, Vanillish sucks. Hard. All it does is spams Ice Beam and hopes it kills something. Hell, my Joltik which is five levels under can KO things more frequently.

I think the only shiny I've seen was back in the 2nd gen. He might get better when he evolve again.

 

Blaziken is Uber? Since when?

Smogon made him uber cause Speed Boost and SD lets him kill almost everything.

[Dark]

Don't get me wrong, Vanillish isn't terrible, but it's just so weak overall. I swear, if it didn't learn Ice Beam (even though I knew it would), I would have released it and did a four-Pokemon run.

 

Also, this really sucks. I have my Samurott at Level 35, my Excadrill at Level 35, my Vanillish at Level 35, my Joltik at Level 30, and now I have to worry about training a Litwick after the Celestial Tower?

 

Once Joltik evolves it'll actually be useful, and Litwick can sweep through the seventh Gym.

 

Now that I think about it, I'm deathly afraid of walking into the E4 with my highest being 48. I'm going to do it, regardless.

[Lonk]

Don't get me wrong, Vanillish isn't terrible, but it's just so weak overall. I swear, if it didn't learn Ice Beam (even though I knew it would), I would have released it and did a four-Pokemon run.

 

Also, this really sucks. I have my Samurott at Level 35, my Excadrill at Level 35, my Vanillish at Level 35, my Joltik at Level 30, and now I have to worry about training a Litwick after the Celestial Tower?

 

Once Joltik evolves it'll actually be useful, and Litwick can sweep through the seventh Gym.

 

Now that I think about it, I'm deathly afraid of walking into the E4 with my highest being 48. I'm going to do it, regardless.

 

So I guess you don't use Victini?

[TheTurtleOnceCalledGod]

Well, at least you have him for future use. Plus Blaziken is only uber on the smogon serve so you can till use your old team.

TBH, I hadn't finished making the team anyways, so it wasn't that big a loss. Next weekend (I get my 3DS then) I plan to poketransfer over my old teams and such, to see if my 4th gen team will do as well in a 5th gen meta. And if not, the teammates can be used in the 5th gen (like the Jirachi).

[Xazeon]

Xazeon, the stadiums in Elesa's town have trainers. What did you spend all the money on anyhow?

Revives and Full Restores which I used in the E4 ._.

[I am Fate. Embrace me.]

It also has a disadvantage against other Fighting-Types as well (with one of the Elite Four specializing in Fight-Types).

 

Also, I have a Chandelure with a Modest Nature and am still training it's Sp. Attack using a power lens. It's level 52 and has 217 Sp. Attack. It's moveset is:

 

Flamethrower

Energy Ball

Shadow Ball

Inferno

 

Any help with it's moveset?

 

You need some Psychic. Forget Inferno, use Psychic. You'll have the moveset of my Chandelure, but it's the absolute best. Energy Ball really covers Chandelure's weaknesses. Shadow ball helps beat other Chandelure, and also the occasional Jellicent or Cofagrigus. Flamethrower and Psychic devastate the pokemon it resists.

[Zextra]

You need some Psychic. Forget Inferno, use Psychic. You'll have the moveset of my Chandelure, but it's the absolute best. Energy Ball really covers Chandelure's weaknesses. Shadow ball helps beat other Chandelure, and also the occasional Jellicent or Cofagrigus. Flamethrower and Psychic devastate the pokemon it resists.

That's also the Chandelure moveset I use, though in competitive battles, most people would replace Psychic with Calm Mind...

[Flame Dragon]

TBH, I hadn't finished making the team anyways, so it wasn't that big a loss. Next weekend (I get my 3DS then) I plan to poketransfer over my old teams and such, to see if my 4th gen team will do as well in a 5th gen meta. And if not, the teammates can be used in the 5th gen (like the Jirachi).

I'm planning on doing the same thing when I get my 3DS. Yay for having a reason to get a second handheld.

 

You need some Psychic. Forget Inferno, use Psychic. You'll have the moveset of my Chandelure, but it's the absolute best. Energy Ball really covers Chandelure's weaknesses. Shadow ball helps beat other Chandelure, and also the occasional Jellicent or Cofagrigus. Flamethrower and Psychic devastate the pokemon it resists.

Why should he give it Psychic? It hits fighting types for 2x, but you already are immune to their stab. None cares about Poison. One of Chand's problems is he has a crap movepool. atm, that Hidden Power, and Calm mind are the only other really good moves to use on him.

[SunshineSoldier]

Don't get me wrong, Vanillish isn't terrible, but it's just so weak overall. I swear, if it didn't learn Ice Beam (even though I knew it would), I would have released it and did a four-Pokemon run.

 

Also, this really sucks. I have my Samurott at Level 35, my Excadrill at Level 35, my Vanillish at Level 35, my Joltik at Level 30, and now I have to worry about training a Litwick after the Celestial Tower?

 

Once Joltik evolves it'll actually be useful, and Litwick can sweep through the seventh Gym.

 

Now that I think about it, I'm deathly afraid of walking into the E4 with my highest being 48. I'm going to do it, regardless.

 

 

I beat them with 6 lv. 47s. They're not really that hard. Except for Ghetsis. :(

[Cin]

I tend to just make sure each Pokemon has 2 Revives and 2 Max Potions. I over train anyhow, so they're just for dealing with unexpected problems.

[.Rai]

Still randomly training in Victory Road. My sister managed to get through the whole thing with her Level. 60 Samurott and 5 other low Level 50s. Ghetsis was easy for her, it was N's Zekrom she had problems with. Why does it have Giga Impact? It's so useless. It's probably what saved her, giving her an extra turn for reviving and the like.

[Anbu-of-Sand]

I made my team Level 50-54, just to make Ghetsis / N a bit easier.

 

Now going to make my team Level 75-80 just to make Alder('s Volcarona) a bit easier. Stupid Quiver Dance.

 

Also, anyone else think the choice of Alder's Pokemon were poor? I mean seriously, 3 Bug? Should've been something like:

 

Volcarona

Vanilluxe

Druddigon

Bouffalant / Braviary

Alomomola

Lilligant / Whimiscott / Maractus

 

I don't know really....just wanted to add more Type-Variety in his team.

[Toffee.]

I beat them with 6 lv. 47s. They're not really that hard. Except for Ghetsis. :(

The E4 was stupid-easy.... The first time around.

Before you go up agenst N/Dennis, you want to PC one of your Pokemon.

Having Reshiram/Zekrom on your team for both of those battles really comes in handy.

[Flame Dragon]

Before you go up agenst N/Dennis, you want to PC one of your Pokemon.

Having Reshiram/Zekrom on your team for both of those battles really comes in handy.

You know you don't even need to do that right. If you go in with a full team your given the choice to send one way to use your Dragon.

 

And yea, even without the Dragon, it isn't all that hard to beat them. I know I did it with mine.

[Toffee.]

You know you don't even need to do that right. If you go in with a full team your given the choice to send one way to use your Dragon.

They actually gave you a choice at that time?

 

....But anyway, the only Pokemon on Dennis' team that annoyed me was his Sazandora.

The rest of his team dropped fairly easily.

[Tentacruel]

Who's Dennis?

[Toffee.]

Who's Dennis?

Ghetsis.

Listen to his theme.

[Flame Dragon]

They actually gave you a choice at that time?

Yea. After I got Resh it said, your team is full, do you want to make room for Resh. At first I was like, sure, then I said der was no way and reset.

[Lonk]

I barely defeated Ghetsis' Hydreigon. Should have deposited my Sawsbuck and not Sawk if I knew he were to have a Special Sweeper like that.

[Dark]

So I guess you don't use Victini?

 

Hell no.

 

I beat them with 6 lv. 47s. They're not really that hard. Except for Ghetsis. :(

 

Fine.

 

Samurott - L45

Excadrill - L45

Vanilluxe - L47

Galvantula - L45

Chandelure - L46

Whatever Deino evolves into - Lwho cares, as he's useless

 

That should add a bit more of a challenge. ;D

[Lonk]

You won't need Zweillos (Evolves from Deino @54). Even though you say your Vanilluxe sux, it maybe useful against Hydreigon (considering if Vanilluxe moves first).

[Anbu-of-Sand]

/is still Level Grinding

 

The Riches Family is great for Level Grinding in my opinion. I'm only on I believe the 5th one (The first Riches with a Full Team), and didn't get past him. I started struggling with them since the 3rd / 4th one. The problem is although I stock up on Hyper Potions, Revives, etc., they don't give you the time to rest. I normally have to risk one of my Pokemon / majority of their life just to heal another. Also, I'm going to just assume that their is I believe 8 or 10 in all (one trainer per seat), and after you defeat all of them, are you still aloud to battle them every day, after defeating all of the Riches?

 

If so, yeah for 'super-easy' Level Grinding!

[Zextra]

You know you don't even need to do that right. If you go in with a full team your given the choice to send one way to use your Dragon.

 

And yea, even without the Dragon, it isn't all that hard to beat them. I know I did it with mine.

Although Reshiram/Zekrom is just a collection Pokemon, I added Reshiram to my team for the sole purpose of getting one with the proper nature - Normally, I wouldn't waste it on Dennis (or N for that matter), but since I needed to check its stats before the game autosaved, I had to tag it along...

 

The Riches are fun - I just beat the 3rd today...

 

However, I don't think my Pokemon would be strong enough to touch Cynthia's team yet (I would use Volcarona, but I stored it in the PC to train my others first, since their levels were significantly lower):

Samurott Lv.62

Chandelure Lv.57

Excadrill Lv.58

Haxorus Lv.58

Mienshao Lv.57

Sigilyph Lv.57