Official Pokemon Black and White thread. (loads of new info with lots of spoilers)

[~Articuno~]

They should make Light Type Pokemon. They have Dark. A light Pokemon may be like a Lion that's mane is surrounded by Solar Rays. Light type moves could be' date=' well I cant think of any but still its a good idea.

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O.O I was just thinking of what types the big cat Pokemon could be,and thought "Hey there should be a light type!".

Lion Pokemon = Light type. Mane = Light Beams

Tiger Pokemon = Dark type. Stripes = Well... Dark!

Leopard Pokemon = *Drumroll* SPACE TYPE! Spots= Stars

Yes I think there should be a space type. It would be super effective to fighting,light, and normal types at least. It would be not very effective on Dark types. I have no idea what types would be awesome vs it though.

[EliminateHRN]

They should make Light Type Pokemon. They have Dark. A light Pokemon may be like a Lion that's mane is surrounded by Solar Rays. Light type moves could be' date=' well I cant think of any but still its a good idea.

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O.O I was just thinking of what types the big cat Pokemon could be,and thought "Hey there should be a light type!".

Lion Pokemon = Light type. Mane = Light Beams

Tiger Pokemon = Dark type. Stripes = Well... Dark!

Leopard Pokemon = *Drumroll* SPACE TYPE! Spots= Stars

Yes I think there should be a space type. It would be super effective to fighting,light, and normal types at least. It would be not very effective on Dark types. I have no idea what types would be awesome vs it though.

 

Okay, Light type (which I still don't want) is one thing, but SPACE TYPE! Are you kidding!? I would lose all my faith in pokemon if there was a Space type. IMO, I think they should stick with the types they have right now.

[Astro Dude]

Here's my idea for the Gym order and Elite Four:

 

1. Fire

2. Ground

3. Poison

4. Flying

5. Water

6. Rock

7. Dark

8. Light (If made otherwise Bug)

 

Elite Four:

1. Ghost

2. Ice

3. Electric

4. Steel

 

Champion:

Psychic

[Toffee.]

Obveiously the champion of the E4(first time round) is only going to use like a level 60 Zoroark(w/e)

And then round 2, it will be like level 100 or something.

Since he IS known as "Phantom Champion-Z"

[Eury]

I bet anything the Champion is going to use Dark types. If not, at least a spot in the E4 or a Gym Leader. Darks need more love.

[Flame Dragon]

Here's my idea for the Gym order and Elite Four:

 

1. Fire

2. Ground

3. Poison

4. Flying

5. Water

6. Rock

7. Dark

8. Light (If made otherwise Bug)

 

Elite Four:

1. Ghost

2. Ice

3. Electric

4. Steel

 

Champion:

Psychic

First gym is always rock. Only reason it wasn't in the 2nd gen is because they wanted to get all the types (side from dark). Also because of that fact I don't tihnk we are going to have a Dark gym.

 

Also odds are we aren't getting a new type. A LOT if new moves would need to come out for it to be useable. Yes, we did get new types in the past, but that was to balance Psychic.

[Toffee.]

I bet anything the Champion is going to use Dark types. If not' date=' at least a spot in the E4 or a Gym Leader. Darks need more love.

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Obveiously the champion will use Zoroark.

It will be like Cynthia, and how she promoted Lucario more then it already was

[Time Psyduck]

In G/S' date=' i remember something besides fighting was good vs Dark, i think it was Poison. Not sure. They got rid of it now, even in HG/SS

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Bug has always been good on dark. It's just not as common as fighting, especially since there weren't too many good bug moves pre D/P.

 

Oh and it's only cheap when hacked with wonder guard.

 

 

Sableye doesn't have any weaknesses either. >_>

 

But seriously' date=' they both have less then formidable stats and their movesets are somewhat crappy. I think the no weaknesses thing is a good way to make up for that.

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Other way round - general crappyness makes up for lack of weakness.

 

Anyway,

 

1) Black and White are decent names. I like them. Makes me think of the first generation - perhaps they're aiming for the 20+ year olds who played those games? (Of course they're not, it's a kid's game, why would adults play it?)

 

2) Light-type would be interesting but redundant. Adding a new type now would mean changing a good number of moves or having a very inconsistent game. It's only really feasible if they have another generation incompatible with older games. If you're so desperate to break the Ghost/Dark thing, have Electric > Dark or something. On the other hand a variant of soundproof that blocked light-based moves would be interesting - I see light in this capacity rather than an elemental type. Also space (or cosmic or whatever) is just stupid.

 

3) If they're using Zoroark to promote it I can see someone significant using it somewhere along the line. Someone using darks would be nice, but am I the only person who wouldn't mind if the dark-type stayed without a gym? It makes them distinctive (well that and the lack of any dark types from Generation I)

[Flame Dragon]

1) Black and White are decent names. I like them. Makes me think of the first generation - perhaps they're aiming for the 20+ year olds who played those games? (Of course they're not' date=' it's a kid's game, why would adults play it?)

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A lot of people in my school are playing pokemon. Most of those people are my age or only a year younger. Trust me when I say most people that grew up with pokemon are likely to pick up on of the games.

 

am I the only person who wouldn't mind if the dark-type stayed without a gym? It makes them distinctive (well that and the lack of any dark types from Generation I)

I wouldn't mind either. In fact that is the reason i don't think we will have a Dark gym.

[Dark]

I'm really hoping that White and Black are tentative names. Because that is just really uncreative and... ugh. :/

 

But yeah, only need to wait until Fall 2010 for full details. Serebii always gets JAP versions of games.

[Flame Dragon]

I'm really hoping that White and Black are tentative names. Because that is just really uncreative and... ugh. :/

 

But yeah' date=' only need to wait until Fall 2010 for [b']full details[/b]. Serebii always gets JAP versions of games.

Well, it won't be full details but we're going to learn more about the games on the 11th thanks to Pokemon sunday and CoroCoro.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

Well they don't HAVE to make new moves with a new type. Bite used to be a normal type move back in RB. The only reason Ghost/Dark is so overpowered because people that hack for competitive play give them wonder guard. We are going to see a flying/fighting I just know it. Every type has a flying along with it except for fighting. We should have a return of the dive option because it was good use when your pokemon were at low health.

As for the deity crap going, they need to quit, seriously. the only good rivalry was Mewtwo vs. Mew and it Mewtwo at the end. I mean look at every movie. They all say in ton "Quit fighting everyone, peace is the only way"

And a legendary has died in nearly every movie except for the Mewtwo series and pokemon 2000, pokemon destiny deoxys, pokemon and the prince of the sea? and pokemon wish maker. 3rd, Entei dies *kinda*, 4th Celebi dies, 5th Latias dies, 7th lucario dies, Darkrai dies, Giratina almost dies, Arceus dies, and the next will probably have either Lugia or Ho-oh die.

[Felix]

You don't hack for competitive play because you can't play competitively with hacked Pokemon. Also, Ho-Oh and Lugia aren't in the next movie.

 

Anyway here's some confirmed Pokemon for 5th Gen, Zorua and Zoroark

[Flame Dragon]

Well they don't HAVE to make new moves with a new type. Bite used to be a normal type move back in RB.

How many moves could work as light.

[Dark]

Thanks for saying "Dark" needs some more love. I do need more love! <3

 

Oh, the type. <___<

 

Yeah, Absol evo would be smex.

 

I'm really hoping that White and Black are tentative names. Because that is just really uncreative and... ugh. :/

 

But yeah' date=' only need to wait until Fall 2010 for [b']full details[/b]. Serebii always gets JAP versions of games.

Well, it won't be full details but we're going to learn more about the games on the 11th thanks to Pokemon sunday and CoroCoro.

 

No, I mean full details. As soon as HGSS came out in Japan, Serebii had solid information in days. So we only need to wait 'till fall to find out virtually everything about this game.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

You don't hack for competitive play because you can't play competitively with hacked Pokemon. Also' date=' Ho-Oh and Lugia aren't in the next movie.

 

Anyway here's some confirmed Pokemon for 5th Gen, Zorua and Zoroark

 

this begs to differ-actual trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szF-3Bnogt8

[Felix]

The next movie is Phantom Champion Zoroark, no sign of either of them there:/ We'll see what happens I guess.

[Death Metal]

Spiritomb and Sableye do have weaknesses if you know anything about Pokemon. They're both weak against Fighting. lrn2foresight

 

I was talking about the weaknesses when they are not effected by something Eury! Your ruining it for me bro. D:<

 

Besides who the hell would waste an entire move slot to take out two pokemon? *waits to get hit* D:

[Flame Dragon]

Spiritomb and Sableye do have weaknesses if you know anything about Pokemon. They're both weak against Fighting. lrn2foresight

 

I was talking about the weaknesses when they are not effected by something Eury! Your ruining it for me bro. D:

 

Besides who the hell would waste an entire move slot to take out two pokemon? *waits to get hit* D:

That's why you use a pokemon with Scrappy.

[Time Psyduck]

You don't hack for competitive play because you can't play competitively with hacked Pokemon.

 

Not anywhere? I didn't think the anti-hack whatever was on D/P at least' date=' but then I know basically nothing about competitive play or Wi-Fi, so I'm probably wrong. Also, what about that Shoddy battle thing? Anyway, even if you don't use it competitively, hacking something without weaknesses with wonder guard is still cheap. At least use an Electric or Poison/Dark with Magnet Rise.

 

Well they don't HAVE to make new moves with a new type. Bite used to be a normal type move back in RB.

How many moves could work as light.

 

Quite a few. Solarbeam' date=' Aurora Beam, Flash, Signal Beam, Flash Cannon, Mirror Shot, Tail Glow, Aura Sphere(?), Reflect, Light Screen, Moonlight and Morning Sun would all work (note this removes all special Steel moves from the game, as much of a big deal as it is[s']n't[/s]), as well as anything else that mentions lights in it's description, and I'm sure you could find a few more. It's still quite a bit to change, and it makes a mess of a lot of what's already there.

 

Besides who the hell would waste an entire move slot to take out two pokemon? *waits to get hit* D:

 

Err...Me?

 

Actually it was to hit Ghosts with Levitate (still two pokémon, unless something shows up in the battle frontier, just not those two) in an Emerald water mono, just because I didn't feel like giving Swampert a Water move when I had three special attackers (and Sharpedo. And a Golduck sort of HM slave. And Kyogre) with Surf. Also helps against double team. Ignore me.

[Death Metal]

Spiritomb and Sableye do have weaknesses if you know anything about Pokemon. They're both weak against Fighting. lrn2foresight

 

I was talking about the weaknesses when they are not effected by something Eury! Your ruining it for me bro. D:<

 

Besides who the hell would waste an entire move slot to take out two pokemon? *waits to get hit* D:

That's why you use a pokemon with Scrappy.

RIP DEATH METAL'S PRIDE.

 

Bastards....

 

Also.... I might get flamed for this one.... Absol evo is not something I would look forward too. I don't even like Absol. >_>

[GraveHorizon]

I'm really hoping that White and Black are tentative names. Because that is just really uncreative and... ugh. :/

 

But yeah' date=' only need to wait until Fall 2010 for [b']full details[/b]. Serebii always gets JAP versions of games.

 

When I heard the names, I actually thought they were pretty original. Really, what else could they use for names? And the titles look awesome as usual. I wonder how the English version is going to fuc* them up this time.

[Dark]

I'm really hoping that White and Black are tentative names. Because that is just really uncreative and... ugh. :/

 

But yeah' date=' only need to wait until Fall 2010 for [b']full details[/b]. Serebii always gets JAP versions of games.

 

When I heard the names, I actually thought they were pretty original. Really, what else could they use for names? And the titles look awesome as usual. I wonder how the English version is going to fuc* them up this time.

 

When did we ever fuck up any Japanese names? The only one I can think of is making Green into Yellow, to promote the Pikachu thing. :/

 

And up until now, the English names (regardless of the Japanese names) were pretty decent.

[Time Psyduck]

I'm really hoping that White and Black are tentative names. Because that is just really uncreative and... ugh. :/

 

But yeah' date=' only need to wait until Fall 2010 for [b']full details[/b]. Serebii always gets JAP versions of games.

 

When I heard the names, I actually thought they were pretty original. Really, what else could they use for names? And the titles look awesome as usual. I wonder how the English version is going to fuc* them up this time.

 

When did we ever fuck up any Japanese names? The only one I can think of is making Green into Yellow, to promote the Pikachu thing. :/

 

And up until now, the English names (regardless of the Japanese names) were pretty decent.

 

Platina became Platinum (not that that's actually a change), which apart from making the Manga character's name slightly less appropriate didn't do a whole lot. Green was turned into Blue, not Yellow, probably because the English games were based on the Japanese Blue, which was more like Crystal/Emerald/Platinum, only with fixes instead of new features. Yellow was the same in all languages. Again, the name thing only really affected the Manga, and even then not by much.

[Dark]

Gah, sorry about that. I thought Yellow was US exclusive, and I was an idiot for even thinking that for a split second.