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How many 5th gen pokemon do you think there is going to be?  

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  1. 1. How many 5th gen pokemon do you think there is going to be?

    • under 50
      18
    • over 50
      15
    • under 100
      24
    • over 100
      84
    • more than 150
      83


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You can't re-fight trainers. AT ALL. Which sucks.

Yea, it does. I really want to know why they axed the verse seeker since that is a huge thing to over look.

 

WASTE.

 

It's called save, weaken, follow, repeat, and Quick Ball once its health is in red.

 

That and Mean Look.

You don't seem to know what a waste is. Really chasing him around is a huge waste of time. Also the master ball is best used on running pokemon and since their is only 1 the whole game their is no reason not to use it on the kami.

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Eh, there is... but... >.>

 

 

 

 

You can't re-fight trainers. AT ALL. Which sucks.

I find this the only flaw in Black and White. What drove Game Freak not to put VS Seeker in this generation?? Did they think that having all other Trainers that you have not yet battled + wild pokemon being Level 40+ everywhere you go after defeating the Elite Four the first time was a good trade-off? Because in my opinion, there's no use of upping all the Pokemon's Levels and whatnot if we can't re-battle the Trainers.

 

And once again:

 

Also, on the note of these Wing things you can find on bridges, 4 of say 1 certain wing on a pokemon = +1 to that stat when they Level up, correct? I wasn't never that good at understanding the whole EV / IV concept.

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Apparently Game Freak thought that Nimbasa City's daily trainers in Big Stadium and Small Court, along with Cheren and Bianca and the Elite Four, were enough to level up Pokemon after you beat every other trainer in Unova.

Isn't that like, 2-4 Trainers whole for the Big Stadium + Small Court? Because I'm pretty sure that's not even enough to Level up 1 Pokemon 1 Level. But does this mean you can battle Cheren / Bianca as many times as you want as well, like what we were able to do in Pokemon Diamond / Pearl / I think Platinum every once in awhile? If so, I guess that may do the trick to go up a Level or two for a pokemon or two..

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Isn't that like, 2-4 Trainers whole for the Big Stadium + Small Court? Because I'm pretty sure that's not even enough to Level up 1 Pokemon 1 Level. But does this mean you can battle Cheren / Bianca as many times as you want as well, like what we were able to do in Pokemon Diamond / Pearl / I think Platinum every once in awhile? If so, I guess that may do the trick to go up a Level or two for a pokemon or two..

 

The exact number in Big Stadium and Small Court varies day to day, but the total is greater than 4.

There were at least 10 trainers in Big Stadium alone, with 4 of them being trainers for double battles. Same roughly applies for Small Court.

That is, if you've beaten the main story already.

 

Cheren is once a day, everyday, while Bianca is once a day during the weekends. When the seasons start to change and it becomes Spring, you can fight Cynthia everyday in Undella Town in addition with the previously mentioned trainers.

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Love winter. Waiting to get Substitute in Twist Mountain. It's just dawned on me on the vast amount of improvements in B/W. Sound effects, animation and scenery are all so lovely.n

 

Currently trying to train a Petilil I caught ages ago but not used it because of its pretty good nature. Ideal set for it:

 

Lilligant@

Ability: Own Tempo

252 Sp. Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP

Jolly [+Spd /- Atk]

~ Aromatherapy

~ Quiver Dance

~ Sleep Powder

~ Giga Drain

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*steals I want one*

 

I'm planning on replacing Stoutland for a Water/Flying type, since I Gyarados is better with Waterfall and I'm not gonna waste a move space for Fly on Volcarona. I'm not doing like I did one game forget to put a Flier in my team and end up getting annoyed about not having one at all on the game (even the first Flies you can find in the game). Only idea is Swanna stats work out equal Physical to Spl Atk, but with 87 base its not amazing.

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HOLY s*** I BEAT CYNTHIA WITH MY SUCKY TEAM

 

Ok, it started as a lulzy battle, to exp. share and gain some levels for my Scolipede. I really thought Spiritomb was going to kill all my pokemon, but then I had some incredible luck hitting through Double Team. From then it was a combo of Kyruem's Glaciate, then Hi Jump Kick w/Mienshao. Along with a critical Stone Edge on Braviary.

 

Mienshao: lv. 63

 

Kyruem: lv 75

 

Carracosta: lv. 53

 

Bisharp : lv. 59

 

Zekrom: Lv. 56

 

Scolipede: Lv. 38 (41 by the end of the battle. ;D)

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I did say Water/Flying....I need a Surfer, since Gyarados' stats work better to Waterfall instead, and Swanna prefers Special. And I hate being stuck without Fly, but don't really want to sacrifice a slot as such. I'd give Nidoking EQ to counter the Electric (I <3 EQ its my fav move)

 

Also what would be the best level to evolve Nidorino.

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Oh I started writing my message while yours was unedited, opened a new window, forgot about it and then remembered and posted.

 

Anyway! Looks like Swanna's your only option. I can't come up with anyone else who knows both Fly and Surf (except Mew and Arceus, of course)

 

Unless...

 

EDIT: Dragonite.

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Yea, but it looses out because its higher Atk. 134 Atk, 100 Spl, but I suppose 100 is better than 87. Then I could use Dragon Claw and another move. I worry about the massive Ice weakness my team has, but to be honest bar gym 7 it doesn't really matter.

Its a small gap so doesn't matter too much.

 

I did think of

Houndoom - Sunny Day, Solarbeam, Fire Blast and Crunch

(That would be the only time I'd use FireBlast. Issue with Solarbeam though is the time to set up with Sunny Day)

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Also what would be the best level to evolve Nidorino.

Before level 43. Still, Rino doesn't learn any really good moves so you should evolve him asap. King has a HUGE ass movepool being able to learn a crap ton of TMs so most of what your going to have him doing will come from that. FYI the reason I say evolve at 42 is because he gets Earthpower at 43 and it's a great move on him.

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Can't wait for Winter. It's going to be so easy to find my Vanillish now. =)

 

Also, I also hate how they axed the VS Seeker, but I usually don't rebattle Trainers anyways.

 

okay so i dont like hydreigon so imma nickname it sazandora when i get it =D

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Anbu, you are partially correct.

 

 

A Pokemon can have a total of 510 EVs total.

 

A Pokemon can have a total of 255 EVs in any single stat.

 

4 EVs is one stat point, so it's useless to have EVs over 252 in a stat, as it's the highest multiple of 4 possible.

 

 

4 EV's is 1 stat on level 100. I assume it would amount to half a stat point on level 50, but that math may be way off.

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Also, on the note of these Wing things you can find on bridges, 4 of say 1 certain wing on a pokemon = +1 to that stat when they Level up, correct? I wasn't never that good at understanding the whole EV / IV concept.

Yea. Normal vitamins give 10 EVs to a stat (so 2 vitamins=+5 to that stat) and stop working after that stat has 100 EVs. The wings give 1 EV to a stat (and as you said 4=+1 to that stat) and can be used until the stat fills up at 255.

 

okay so i dont like hydreigon so imma nickname it sazandora when i get it =D

Nonono. You name him Ghidorah cause that is an awesome name.

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You would go insane if you actually collected all the feathers for getting 255 EV. Also, the most one should ever use is 252.

I probably wouldn't. I'd probably just get enough to get maybe a +4 or something on each stat on each of my Pokemon. So....

 

4 x 4 = 16 Feathers for a Single Stat to get a +4

16 x 6 = 96 Feathers for all 6 Stats to get a +4

96 x 6 = 576 Feathers for all my 6 Main Pokemon to get a +4 on each Stat.

 

O.o Did I do my math wrong ?? Maybe them Vitamins are just the better way to go >.>

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