Zkaiser Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Either that or ban the combination of him and Butterfly Dagger - Elma. Nobody uses him anyway. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I've got a better idea: just ban Butterfly Dagger - Elma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Crabs logic is so much better IMO.Broken card should stay banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted March 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 The card isn't broken at all. It misses the timing like hell and it can only be abused with Gearfried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 The card isn't broken at all. It misses the timing like hell and it can only be abused with Gearfried. Gearfried is also not broken at all. Fix: Errata Royal Magical Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.F.Yuji Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 "A monster equipped with this card increase it's ATK by 300 points. Once per turn' date=' When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard while equipped to a monster, this card can be returned to the owner's hand."[/quote'] Would make it much less broken IMHO, plus, I pulled one of these the other day :P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 a continous 300ATK boosting equip... NOT WORTH THE BANNING! -__-300 is really anything to equips these days like the pike which gives monster with about 2 counter parts in the grave 1800ATK and is broken in Skullservent as overbooster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 a continous 300ATK boosting equip... NOT WORTH THE BANNING! -__- You're clearly missing the point. It was only banned because of the loop with Royal Magical Library. Until Royal Magical Library is either banned or erratad (as Kyosuke Kiryu said), this will remain banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Even without library there's still spell absorption for infinite life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 "A monster equipped with this card increase it's ATK by 300 points. Once per turn' date=' When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard while equipped to a monster, this card can be returned to the owner's hand."[/quote'] Would make it much less broken IMHO, plus, I pulled one of these the other day :P.No it doesnt.Adding it from the graveyard to your hand would re-set the whole "Once per turn" aspect. What they need, is to issuse some ruling behind this that say something like:"The effect of it returning only goes off, if the equipped monster is removed the field, and this card is destroyed in this manner" Since it makes more sence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 An effective infinite ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 "A monster equipped with this card increase it's ATK by 300 points. Once per turn' date=' When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard while equipped to a monster, this card can be returned to the owner's hand."[/quote'] Would make it much less broken IMHO, plus, I pulled one of these the other day :P.No it doesnt.Adding it from the graveyard to your hand would re-set the whole "Once per turn" aspect. What they need, is to issuse some ruling behind this that say something like:"The effect of it returning only goes off, if the equipped monster is removed the field, and this card is destroyed in this manner" Since it makes more sence? They could add the line "This card cannot be activated during the turn it was returned to the hand by its own effect", They could also go the route of Spell Power Grasp or Gather Your Mind and state "You can only activate 1 'Butterfly Dagger - Elma' per turn." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 "A monster equipped with this card increase it's ATK by 300 points. Once per turn' date=' When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard while equipped to a monster, this card can be returned to the owner's hand."[/quote'] Would make it much less broken IMHO, plus, I pulled one of these the other day :P.No it doesnt.Adding it from the graveyard to your hand would re-set the whole "Once per turn" aspect. What they need, is to issuse some ruling behind this that say something like:"The effect of it returning only goes off, if the equipped monster is removed the field, and this card is destroyed in this manner" Since it makes more sence? They could add the line "This card cannot be activated during the turn it was returned to the hand by its own effect", They could also go the route of Spell Power Grasp or Gather Your Mind and state "You can only activate 1 'Butterfly Dagger - Elma' per turn." But spell power grasp and gather your mind are totally different. They not only play towards multiple spell cards, but thin your deck. this doesnt. Still, if it could use its effect once per turn than would you still use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 a continous 300ATK boosting equip... NOT WORTH THE BANNING! -__- You're clearly missing the point. It was only banned because of the loop with Royal Magical Library. Until Royal Magical Library is either banned or erratad (as Kyosuke Kiryu said)' date=' this will remain banned.[/quote']Well sorry for not knowing that this had a loop with a building full of magical books >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 a continous 300ATK boosting equip... NOT WORTH THE BANNING! -__- You're clearly missing the point. It was only banned because of the loop with Royal Magical Library. Until Royal Magical Library is either banned or erratad (as Kyosuke Kiryu said)' date=' this will remain banned.[/quote']Well sorry for not knowing that this had a loop with a building full of magical books >.> I can't believe you didn't know that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 During the turn this card is returned to your hand' date=' you cannot use "Vicious Claw" from your hand.[/quote']Solved. The question now is: why does Vicious Claw even have that clause? It couldn't be abused, could it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Butterfly Dagger FTK is one of the most famour ftks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 a continous 300ATK boosting equip... NOT WORTH THE BANNING! -__- You're clearly missing the point. It was only banned because of the loop with Royal Magical Library. Until Royal Magical Library is either banned or erratad (as Kyosuke Kiryu said)' date=' this will remain banned.[/quote']Well sorry for not knowing that this had a loop with a building full of magical books >.>I can't believe you didn't know that...*looks at cards effect*Thats not a loop at all it is is just a slow use of having a monster equipped with a spell card and then just waiting for it to be destroyed.as just having 1 monster to then gain 300 attack have it destroyed gain a counter next turn same for about another 2 turns until you get 3 counters on this card. Plus the loops can be broken by cause of MST and etc. plus saying this is a loop is like saying Royal magical libary with Sword of Deep seated is a loop cuz of top decking.If anyone say use addtional spells used with this will be shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 a continous 300ATK boosting equip... NOT WORTH THE BANNING! -__- You're clearly missing the point. It was only banned because of the loop with Royal Magical Library. Until Royal Magical Library is either banned or erratad (as Kyosuke Kiryu said)' date=' this will remain banned.[/quote']Well sorry for not knowing that this had a loop with a building full of magical books >.>I can't believe you didn't know that...*looks at cards effect*Thats not a loop at all it is is just a slow use of having a monster equipped with a spell card and then just waiting for it to be destroyed.as just having 1 monster to then gain 300 attack have it destroyed gain a counter next turn same for about another 2 turns until you get 3 counters on this card. Plus the loops can be broken by cause of MST and etc. plus saying this is a loop is like saying Royal magical libary with Sword of Deep seated is a loop cuz of top decking.If anyone say use addtional spells used with this will be shot. Look at the topic title, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 a continous 300ATK boosting equip... NOT WORTH THE BANNING! -__- You're clearly missing the point. It was only banned because of the loop with Royal Magical Library. Until Royal Magical Library is either banned or erratad (as Kyosuke Kiryu said)' date=' this will remain banned.[/quote']Well sorry for not knowing that this had a loop with a building full of magical books >.>I can't believe you didn't know that...*looks at cards effect*Thats not a loop at all it is is just a slow use of having a monster equipped with a spell card and then just waiting for it to be destroyed.as just having 1 monster to then gain 300 attack have it destroyed gain a counter next turn same for about another 2 turns until you get 3 counters on this card. Plus the loops can be broken by cause of MST and etc. plus saying this is a loop is like saying Royal magical libary with Sword of Deep seated is a loop cuz of top decking.If anyone say use addtional spells used with this will be shot. Look at the topic title, sir.ಠ_ಠ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 a continous 300ATK boosting equip... NOT WORTH THE BANNING! -__- You're clearly missing the point. It was only banned because of the loop with Royal Magical Library. Until Royal Magical Library is either banned or erratad (as Kyosuke Kiryu said)' date=' this will remain banned.[/quote']Well sorry for not knowing that this had a loop with a building full of magical books >.>I can't believe you didn't know that...*looks at cards effect*Thats not a loop at all it is is just a slow use of having a monster equipped with a spell card and then just waiting for it to be destroyed.as just having 1 monster to then gain 300 attack have it destroyed gain a counter next turn same for about another 2 turns until you get 3 counters on this card. Plus the loops can be broken by cause of MST and etc. plus saying this is a loop is like saying Royal magical libary with Sword of Deep seated is a loop cuz of top decking.If anyone say use addtional spells used with this will be shot. Loop much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 a continous 300ATK boosting equip... NOT WORTH THE BANNING! -__- You're clearly missing the point. It was only banned because of the loop with Royal Magical Library. Until Royal Magical Library is either banned or erratad (as Kyosuke Kiryu said)' date=' this will remain banned.[/quote']Well sorry for not knowing that this had a loop with a building full of magical books >.>I can't believe you didn't know that...*looks at cards effect*Thats not a loop at all it is is just a slow use of having a monster equipped with a spell card and then just waiting for it to be destroyed.as just having 1 monster to then gain 300 attack have it destroyed gain a counter next turn same for about another 2 turns until you get 3 counters on this card. You really are stupid, aren't you? Nobody said that you have to wait it to get destroyed. This is why you use Butterfly Dagger - Elma with Gearfried the Iron Knight and Royal Magical Library. You just keep equipping Butterfly Dagger - Elma Gearfried as much as you wish and gain a counter for Library. You do that until you win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 You just keep equipping Butterfly Dagger - Elma Gearfried as much as you wish and gain a counter for Library. You do that until you win via drawing Exodia.Q4E + Giant text makes it more readable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Kingdom Neos is a shining beacon of YCMitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 i think they need to ban gearfriedcrystal beasts mainly because its one of the bests decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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