Pokémon Debate Thread

[Brushfire]

That actually made me laugh. Just a smidge. <3

 

Care to elaborate on that' date=' o master of Pokemon, Brushfire? Care to tell me why GSC was the best Pokemon game evar. If it's not nostalgia, I want to see what bullshit reason you pull from out of your arse. IIRC, the only thing GSC really added was better graphics, items and natures compared to RBY. It didn't really [b']add[/b] anything. And since Pokemon games continously over and over have the same, generic storyline, the only thing you really CAN advance are the in-game effects, graphics and new features.

 

So DPPt sucks, eh? Because adding WiFi to a Pokemon game was fucking bullshit, useless and not needed at all. Making a GTS where you can trade Pokemon was horrible. Importing Pokemon from RBE FRLG via Palpark is useless. I mean, really. I only used that feature about 15 or 20 times. Not anything exceptional, right? Physical/Special split didn't change much. I mean, everyone wanted Ice Punch to be a special move. And it's not like it was a total logic fail. Punches ARE NOT PHYSICAL MOVES GUYS.

 

Seriously, form an argument before you start blabbing random crap. If you really feel GSC was da beest pokaymens gaem evar, make sure to have facts to back up your opinion. I may be supporting what to you seems like 'a shitty game', but at least I have the intelligence and decency to bring up useful facts about the game.

 

How about you form an argument before doing anything? If I recall, it was your retarded opinion that started it all.

 

It's not nostalgia, and if you say that again as you appear to think that your witty statement on actually knowing what nostalgia means make you intelligent then you're nothing more than a retard. It was easily the best game as of yet, though RSE was bearable. GSC added things that weren't in RBY (though Yellow's features should have been retained, or at least in Crystal). Two large regions (the best part, despite being watered down- HGSS fixed this), Day/Night, PokéGear, new Pokémon (even if that's become standard now), and dare I say it- the best storyline? We all know that Team Rocket is a lot more realistic than floating space Pokémon who destroy the world, that much is common sense. It followed a suit though while generic, remained to be slightly more diverse than other games have shown yet.

 

DDPt does suck- you seem to fail to realise that WiFi and the internet DO NOT mean everything in a game. Wi-Fi? Used it once to battle a friend; and I totally could have never used a link cable to do that before, not at all. GTS was annoying, I find it a lot more fun raising my OWN Pokémon- funk GTS and you're competitive battling. I did important a fair amount of Pokémon from RSE/FRLG, yes. Know why? Because the Sinnoh Pokémon were funking horrible and I'd rather stick with my old one's. I could've easily TRADED them on an old console, idiot. And actually, the Physical/Special split didn't make much difference to me, in fact I barely noticed it. Also, increase you've forgotten, retard- an Ice punch where Ice forms from your hand and hits some could easily be classified as a Special attack.

 

You're blabbering random crap and your pretty wall of text doesn't attack any of my previous points AT ALL. My point is that DPPt was BORING to play (I'm hoping 5th Gen will be better). Secret Bases from RSE were pretty cool and sometimes fun, I expected to see them expanded upon, not go Underground and find sheet in walls LOL. You're supporting a shitty game for the wrong reasons. I don't play Pokémon for: graphics, competitive battling, new Pokémon, importing Pokémon or running around in the snow. I play because I find the storyline(somehow) enjoyable and because the gameplay is fun. The region, what it looks like, and how it is means a lot when I play a game. The Pokémon in the areas mean even more.

 

From what you've proved, you have very little intelligence when backing up anything- let alone a game. I mean, I should have expected it from the ignorant atheist who finds insulting religious people who idealistic beliefs.

[Dark]

and dare I say it- the best storyline

 

It's hilarious that you bring up storyline in a Pokemon game, because unlike other games, it means nothing. If you mean storyline in the way I do, it's been the same and always will be. You are an innocent little boy who is given a plaything that you can use to battle other losers with. You go to gyms and whatnot, go to the Elite Four, fight your rival, same old, same old. The only difference I can see is... hmm... the characters. Team Rocket became Team Galactic. And instead of Lugia and Ho-oh, we got Space/Time dimension dragons. Storyline means next-to-nothing in a Pokemon game, considering it almost NEVER CHANGES.

 

We all know that Team Rocket is a lot more realistic than floating space Pokémon who destroy the world, that much is common sense.

 

It's funny you say that, because I'm sure when Nintendo thought of the idea of Pokemon, their first thought was "Hey, let's make this game realistic!" Seriously, get a brain. Pokemon is anything but realistic, and space-time Pokemon was an unused idea (Celebi doesn't count), so they decided to incorporate it. Too bad (to my knowledge) that Lugia and Ho-oh aren't based on anything important. At least RSE had weather-based Pokemon and not random birds that are... random.

 

In response to your entire second paragraph, you don't understand a word of what I was saying. I'm not saying Wifi makes the game. I am saying that the only major advances you can make to a Pokemon game are advancements like those. You don't think WiFi was important? Go suck something. I'd much rather exchange friend codes and battle someone across the world instead of getting a plane ticket to China and beating some communists at a monster game. WiFi was an amazing improvement which changed the entire game around. If you actually were involved in the game, you'd know how important the GTS, WiFi battling and WiFi trading were. I never mentioned anything about competitive battling, so I don't know where you are getting that bullshit from. And punching someone is definitely a special attack, yep. It's not like you are physically making contact with them- oh no, you are shooting icicles at them with your palm. That's exactly what the animation looks like in-game. <3

 

My point is that DPPt was BORING to play

 

I can turn around and snap back and was GSC was pure bullshit and it was boring to play. I mean, really, TOTODILE? THAT IS SO STUPID SO I'M GOING TO QQ ABOUT HOW I HATE THE GSC ERA AND HOW IT SUCKS AND WHATNOT.

 

Storyline remains relatively the same throughout generations, and so does gameplay. So the only advancements they can make are advancements shown from RBY to GSC to RSE to DPPt. Your argument stems from total opinion, about how you think DPPt is boring and whatnot. Newsflash: a bunch of people bought DPPt. I'm sure they ALL got bored, don'tcha think?

 

And it's funny; your entire argument so far has not had many in-game facts or actual reasons as to why GSC is better than DPPt. Hell, the only thing you've mentioned was Day/Night cycles and Pokegear. I'll happily STFU and GTFO is you give me a valid reason as to why you know that DPPt sucks balls and GSC is the Pokemon God game.

 

From what you've proved, you have very little intelligence when backing up anything- let alone a game. I mean, I should have expected it from the ignorant atheist who finds insulting religious people who idealistic beliefs.

 

Yes, I have very little intelligence, surely. And thank you for bringing atheism into this. I could swear that was my job. (Arceus doesn't exist, guise.)

[Brushfire]

It's hilarious that you bring up storyline in a Pokemon game' date=' because unlike other games, it means nothing. If you mean storyline in the way I do, it's been the same and always will be. You are an innocent little boy who is given a plaything that you can use to battle other losers with. You go to gyms and whatnot, go to the Elite Four, fight your rival, [b']same old, same old[/b]. The only difference I can see is... hmm... the characters. Team Rocket became Team Galactic. And instead of Lugia and Ho-oh, we got Space/Time dimension dragons. Storyline means next-to-nothing in a Pokemon game, considering it almost NEVER CHANGES.

 

It's funny you say that, because I'm sure when Nintendo thought of the idea of Pokemon, their first thought was "Hey, let's make this game realistic!" Seriously, get a brain. Pokemon is anything but realistic, and space-time Pokemon was an unused idea (Celebi doesn't count), so they decided to incorporate it. Too bad (to my knowledge) that Lugia and Ho-oh aren't based on anything important. At least RSE had weather-based Pokemon and not random birds that are... random.

 

In response to your entire second paragraph, you don't understand a word of what I was saying. I'm not saying Wifi makes the game. I am saying that the only major advances you can make to a Pokemon game are advancements like those. You don't think WiFi was important? Go suck something. I'd much rather exchange friend codes and battle someone across the world instead of getting a plane ticket to China and beating some communists at a monster game. WiFi was an amazing improvement which changed the entire game around. If you actually were involved in the game, you'd know how important the GTS, WiFi battling and WiFi trading were. I never mentioned anything about competitive battling, so I don't know where you are getting that bullshit from. And punching someone is definitely a special attack, yep. It's not like you are physically making contact with them- oh no, you are shooting icicles at them with your palm. That's exactly what the animation looks like in-game. <3

 

I can turn around and snap back and was GSC was pure bullshit and it was boring to play. I mean, really, TOTODILE? THAT IS SO STUPID SO I'M GOING TO QQ ABOUT HOW I HATE THE GSC ERA AND HOW IT SUCKS AND WHATNOT.

 

Storyline remains relatively the same throughout generations, and so does gameplay. So the only advancements they can make are advancements shown from RBY to GSC to RSE to DPPt. Your argument stems from total opinion, about how you think DPPt is boring and whatnot. Newsflash: a bunch of people bought DPPt. I'm sure they ALL got bored, don'tcha think?

 

And it's funny; your entire argument so far has not had many in-game facts or actual reasons as to why GSC is better than DPPt. Hell, the only thing you've mentioned was Day/Night cycles and Pokegear. I'll happily STFU and GTFO is you give me a valid reason as to why you know that DPPt sucks balls and GSC is the Pokemon God game.

 

Yes, I have very little intelligence, surely. And thank you for bringing atheism into this. I could swear that was my job. (Arceus doesn't exist, guise.)

 

Well, this is true. I don't mean it in the way of how it starts though, believe it or not. Usually a storyline means the whole storyline and not the first ten minutes, but apparently your small mind can't handle that much detail. And it's what happens between those, and what Pokémon that those Gym Leaders have- have you not realised this yet? What I see around and the little things like Berries and Apricorns make a difference how to the game very easily. Team Rocket is pretty much Team Galatic, but look more badass and... fight down wells and sheet. Because they're hardcore like that. Space/Time dragons (even though they look nothing like anyone's image of Dragons, they look like old Tranformers ideas). Besides, GSC's storyline wasn't FOCUSED around the legends, which was a good thing. It was focused around Team Rocket attempting to gain power again after their downfall.

 

 

I'm pretty sure they originally considered it to be realistic in the games >_> (ignoring the anime). They base all of their Pokémon and animals and make them fight against each other. The idea of realistic in a Pokémon game is if it were realistic if Pokémon were real. DPPt showed... some deformed blobs and time getting distorted. That happens every time I go outside- I don't see a flock of Pidgy/pigeons, no. Celebi does count.

And if you were actually educated, then you'd know that Ho-Oh is a phoenix and Lugia is some kind of dragon/bird, but at least he looks original. Well, the new one's look original but in a bad way imo. Also, how the funk were they based on anything? :? Random birds are so much more random than dragonmechas, amirite?

 

Wi-Fi was a good advancement, but guess what? I don't give a funk. Online play is not everything, and I don't consider it important at all in a campaign-based Pokémon game. If I wanted Pokémon Online I'd go download Shoddy Battle like everyone else who wants to look pr0 without actually training anything. I used Wi-Fi twice- once I got pwned by some random Asian guy who clearly plays too much Pokémon, and the second time I went against my mate online because it was raining and he didn't want to come round. funk the 'advancement' in that, I play for the region and story. And in case you hadn't realised- Hitmonchan does not have ice on his hands! Because the ice totally spawns out of his hands naturally and makes it physical! It can still be a Special attack genius; the ice comes from nowhere. They changed it so it was more logical afterwards, but I think Nintendo knows better than you do.

 

In-game facts? That's because the in-game facts are either hardly noticeable or my mind can't remember them. So how about the PokéGear and Day/Night cycles (and how the Pokémon were affected by them as to when they appear) as said (nice mixture and the radio was really cool), two FULL regions (Sevii Island and whatever that bs that they call an island on DPPt don't count), being able to hold items, berries, apricorns, new PokéBalls, Steel-type and Dark-types added, new moves, Special stats changed, Pokémon breeding, the magnet train, the inclusion of the awesome Bug-catching contest, the chance to see what everyone's life was like after RBY, a reasonable amount of Pokémon- not a funk load ridiculous amount like now and more.

 

And yes, that round about sums you up. An egocentric, ignorant dick. =]

[.Frostpaw]

Personally I Think D/P/Pt are better than G/S/C, but HG/SS were better than D/P/Pt. Johto has always been my favorite region, and it always will be.

 

inb4XxHighVoltagexXhaspointedoutthatHG/SSareobviouslybetterthattheothergames

[Dark]

TBQH, I have little enthusiasm to continue this debate any further.

 

I'll give merits to GSC; they incorporated a lot of things into Pokemon that RBY didn't have.

 

But please realize that DPPt had a lot of things that RSE and FRLG didn't pick up (no pun) on.

 

As long as no one asserts their opinion as fact, I could care less about what you think about the generations. It's Pokemon; either you play it and support animal abuse or you don't play it and join PETA.

 

*gestures for handshake from Brushfire*

 

And yes, I am an ignorant dick. Not so sure about egocentric, but add asshole in there, too.