DARKPLANT RISING Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 This guy used to be an automatic splasher. Through I put it in my side deck just in case, it's not much anymore. Just, I don't really know why. You know, Dimensional Prison and Mirror Force and all those being good... that I know. But I still don't really get why no one uses it. Discuss why it's not used anymore, except for the DP and MF being over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Flame Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Well, stoping only one attack and damaging the opponent isn't really worth the -1. If it ended the battle phase it would see more use (assuming it wouln't be banned). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 because LP damage is meaningless these days. its all about Card Advantage. destroying or removing a monster is far better than doing some damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I don't get why its still at 1. Also, Waboku + T. Roar > This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I don't get why its still at 1. Also' date=' Waboku + T. Roar > This.[/quote'] Multiple copys of this can hurt. 1 copy is useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 so, bad card is bad at 1, and good card is good at 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 so' date=' bad card is bad at 1, and good card is good at 2?[/quote'] I mean like if this was at 3, at 2 there would be still no point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakupenguin Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 its still good in a burn deck like mine. but i still agree that waboku is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 I want this at one simply because It would be too annoying at 3, and still annoying at 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 1 is perfect for this. But for some reason, YCM hates this card whenever someone includes it in something that's not a burn deck. Any idea why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Welche felt its almighty burning power in our Blind Duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Should be at 3. If this card is a problem, it's because of other cards that should be banned, not this. Besides, annoying does not equal broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Should be at 3. If this card is a problem' date=' it's because of other cards that should be banned, not this. Besides, annoying does not equal broken.[/quote'] Thank you jesus, somebody gets it. Having 3 Wabokus and 3 T. Roars and Thunder of Rulers and ect.. makes cards like this obsolete. I don't think that keeping this at 1 so it sees no play other than in burn decks is good. This card used to be tech'd into just about every deck, and now its just gathering dust. If we got at least 1 more copy it would be somewhat playable. Also, I have 3 and nothing to do with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 This card is not any more broken at 3 then at 1. If this is broken at 3 then it should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 ITT: Lets put an attack negating card that takes out at least 1/8 of a player's Lifepoints at 3, because it requires so much "skill" to operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 ITT: Lets put an attack negating card that takes out at least 1/8 of a player's Lifepoints at 3' date=' because it requires so much "skill" to operate.[/quote'] About as much skill it takes to activate Honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 ITT: Lets put an attack negating card that takes out at least 1/8 of a player's Lifepoints at 3' date=' because it requires so much "skill" to operate.[/quote'] About as much skill it takes to activate Honest. yeah, I think konami should semi this is they are going to semi honest. it basicly has the same end effect on lp, though honest is still better since it allows the battle and kills the attacker in most situations. except when it's fairy injection lily, but that still costs 2000 life points anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 This card is not any more broken at 3 then at 1. If this is broken at 3 then it should be banned. Let's make a simple math equation shall we? If Magic Cylinder is used on a monster with 2000+ ATK, the minimum damage is 2000, which isn't that effective. If 3 were used, than that's at least 6000 damage. The card would be more dangerous if played 3 seperate times. Also, many cards are dangerous at 3, and don't deserve to be banned. That's a simple ban list idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Chaos Phantom Reversal that makes this card hilarious but no one uses AtCP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 This card is not any more broken at 3 then at 1. If this is broken at 3 then it should be banned. Let's make a simple math equation shall we? If Magic Cylinder is used on a monster with 2000+ ATK' date=' the minimum damage is 2000, which isn't that effective. If 3 were used, than that's at least 6000 damage. The card would be more dangerous if played 3 seperate times. Also, many cards are dangerous at 3, and don't deserve to be banned. That's a simple ban list idea.[/quote'] So should I run 3 Sakuretsu because it does almost the same as 1 Mirror Force? [/stupid reasoning] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 So should I run 3 Sakuretsu because it does almost the same as 1 Mirror Force? [/stupid reasoning] Was that towards me? If so, name a card that can inlict a lot of burn damage in 1 use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Wait, are you guys honestly discussing this card's list position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 So should I run 3 Sakuretsu because it does almost the same as 1 Mirror Force? [/stupid reasoning] Was that towards me? If so' date=' name a card that can inlict a lot of burn damage in 1 use.[/quote'] Power Bond, Bad Reaction of Shimochi, Ring of Destruction and maybe Magic Cylinder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 So should I run 3 Sakuretsu because it does almost the same as 1 Mirror Force? [/stupid reasoning] Was that towards me? If so' date=' name a card that can inlict a lot of burn damage in 1 use.[/quote'] Power Bond, Bad Reaction of Shimochi, Ring of Destruction and maybe Magic Cylinder... Which are, in order: Self-Inflicted.Require other bad cards in order to burn at all.Broken and banned.The card we are discussing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 So should I run 3 Sakuretsu because it does almost the same as 1 Mirror Force? [/stupid reasoning] Was that towards me? If so' date=' name a card that can inlict a lot of burn damage in 1 use.[/quote'] Power Bond, Bad Reaction of Shimochi, Ring of Destruction and maybe Magic Cylinder... Which are, in order: Self-Inflicted.Require other bad cards in order to burn at all.Broken and banned.The card we are discussing. Your point being...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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