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Toffee. Newbie

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Its a legitamit thread name

 

Just for laughs, lets assume its a Machine-Type

When this card is Normal Summoned successfully' date=' you can Special Summon 1 "Synchron" Tuner Monster from your Graveyard. The effects of an Effect Monster Special Summoned by this effect is negated.[/quote']

 

Its a Non-Tuner that can revive Tuners of different levels. How nice.

 

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...Huh... Instant Quickdraw+Level 2 = Instant Archer/Nitro? I think this is a pretty nice card for Yusei.dek.

 

effect of the monster summoned is negated' date=' so quick draw is generics only.

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I thought the name thing was un-negatable. Oh well.

 

Isn't that actually Better...Easy Generics anyone?

 

BRD and Lightning Warrior, not amazing.

Unless this a WATER/Spellcaster/Dragon, then this becomes epic.

 

Your range of options vary from levels 4 to 7 synchros....

 

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WAIT!

 

* "You can substitute this card for any 1 "Synchron" Tuner for a Synchro Summon" is not an effect. It will not be negated by "Skill Drain".[1]

 

* "This card cannot be used as a Synchro Material Monster except for the Synchro Summon of a monster that lists a Synchron monster as a Tuner" is not an effect. It will not be negated by "Skill Drain"

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None of Quick Synchron's effect are able to be negated.

 

The name and "Only for "this sort of" Synchro" effects are CONDITIONS, not effects. Neither are negatable by Skill Drain or anything of the sort.

 

* "You can substitute this card for any 1 "Synchron" Tuner for a Synchro Summon" is not an effect. It will not be negated by "Skill Drain".

 

* "This card cannot be used as a Synchro Material Monster except for the Synchro Summon of a monster that lists a Synchron monster as a Tuner" is not an effect. It will not be negated by "Skill Drain".

 

 

And as we all know, you can't negate Quick Synchron's effect to Special Summon itself (you can negate the summon after the fact with the legal ways do to so).

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None of Quick Synchron's effect are able to be negated.

 

The name and "Only for "this sort of" Synchro" effects are CONDITIONS' date=' not effects. Neither are negatable by Skill Drain or anything of the sort.

 

* "You can substitute this card for any 1 "Synchron" Tuner for a Synchro Summon" is not an effect. It will not be negated by "Skill Drain".

 

* "This card cannot be used as a Synchro Material Monster except for the Synchro Summon of a monster that lists a Synchron monster as a Tuner" is not an effect. It will not be negated by "Skill Drain".

 

 

And as we all know, you can't negate Quick Synchron's effect to Special Summon itself (you can negate the summon after the fact with the legal ways do to so).

 

that's confusing, and skill only effects the field, maybe it's related to that.

 

idk, it sounds like a "konami says so" ruling.

 

beacuse lets all be honest here, a level 5 tuner that can summon itself and then make anything while you negate it's effect would be a bit broken wouldn't it? I mean discard bolt, bring it back, instant rose.

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Don't get your hopes up yet if its name contain's Synchron it gunna be a tuner >.>

Its a non-Tuner.

 

EDIT:

WAIT!

 

* "You can substitute this card for any 1 "Synchron" Tuner for a Synchro Summon" is not an effect. It will not be negated by "Skill Drain".[1]

 

* "This card cannot be used as a Synchro Material Monster except for the Synchro Summon of a monster that lists a Synchron monster as a Tuner" is not an effect. It will not be negated by "Skill Drain"

It became awesome again <3

 

it sounds like a "konami says so" ruling.

Pretty much.

But methinks that "rule" only exists because of a situation like that.

 

Meaning we have yet another way to easily Synchro Summon a Nitro Warrior

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None of Quick Synchron's effect are able to be negated.

 

The name and "Only for "this sort of" Synchro" effects are CONDITIONS' date=' not effects. Neither are negatable by Skill Drain or anything of the sort.

 

* "You can substitute this card for any 1 "Synchron" Tuner for a Synchro Summon" is not an effect. It will not be negated by "Skill Drain".

 

* "This card cannot be used as a Synchro Material Monster except for the Synchro Summon of a monster that lists a Synchron monster as a Tuner" is not an effect. It will not be negated by "Skill Drain".

 

 

And as we all know, you can't negate Quick Synchron's effect to Special Summon itself (you can negate the summon after the fact with the legal ways do to so).

 

that's confusing, and skill only effects the field, maybe it's related to that.

 

idk, it sounds like a "konami says so" ruling.

 

beacuse lets all be honest here, a level 5 tuner that can summon itself and then make anything while you negate it's effect would be a bit broken wouldn't it? I mean discard bolt, bring it back, instant rose.

 

 

Not even close to a KSS. You can't negate anything with a similar effect and it's been that way for years. The Fiend Megacyber even. Let alone Cyber Dragon. And how is being UNABLE to use it for any Synchros besides ones that need a Synchron Tuner "broken?"

 

It would be KSS if you COULD negate it, as that flies in the face of cards like Debris Dragon and Torapart.

 

 

Conditions are just hard for SOME people to understand, but it's just the fact that YGO was never intended or thought to go on this long, so it's never going to be as streamlined as Magic the Gathering having some things to clear as to what they are. Conditions have been around for a while, but it's never been set clearly how to id them and the term isn't even "official" much like MANY things in this game (like there's actually still no word for the Trample effect even though that would streamline the game, though there are some cards that have the phrase "has piercing" when they were intending to add it to the rulebook ala how Wizards does keywords).

 

 

 

And before someone brings up Vayu, you can negate Vayu because Vayu's effect is only active while it's face-up. Skill Drain and Forbidden Chalice DO work on Vayu.

 

 

To get a little more insight and be on the subject of Synchrons, Junk Synchron is just like Skill Drain. It only negates the effects of monsters which are active or RESOLVE ON THE FIELD. This is why you still get to draw your card when you summon Tuning Supporter (Tuningware) with Junk Synchron. It activated and resolved in the Graveyard.

 

(Not every card that gets sent to the Graveyard for its effect activates in the Graveyard though: Hand of Nephthys and Honest for example)

 

 

 

Anyway, if you use Synchron Explorer on Road Synchron, his effect IS NEGATED. So you can use him as a Level 4 for any Synchro, not just Road Warrior.

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Yeah' date=' depends on if they see this + Machine Dupe + ??? = broken/too powerful.[hr']

But if it were Warrior, it could be searched via RotA!!!

 

Junk Synchron + 1 Tuningware + Machine Dupe = OP

this wouldnt be as good but still pretty good

I often wonder why people kneejerk copying the "Machine Duplication" comment someone made instead of the better Inferno Reckless Summon.

 

Versatility and pulling from 3 places beats Machines at 500 or less and only from Deck anyday.

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Yeah' date=' depends on if they see this + Machine Dupe + ??? = broken/too powerful.[hr']

But if it were Warrior, it could be searched via RotA!!!

 

Junk Synchron + 1 Tuningware + Machine Dupe = OP

this wouldnt be as good but still pretty good

I often wonder why people kneejerk copying the "Machine Duplication" comment someone made instead of the better Inferno Reckless Summon.

 

Versatility and pulling from 3 places beats Machines at 500 or less and only from Deck anyday.

 

Machine Dupe doesnt offer the chance of giving your opponent 2 free monsters. Plus Machine Dupe just needs a monster and not a special requirement like Inferno.

 

Plus Inferno should only be used in a Battery Man deck

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*Activates Solemn*

Synchron Explorer has encountered a problem and needs to shut down.

 

...Huh... Instant Quickdraw+Level 2 = Instant Archer/Nitro? I think this is a pretty nice card for Yusei.dek.

 

Yep' date=' I have to agree with you there.

 

Yeah' date=' depends on if they see this + Machine Dupe + ??? = broken/too powerful.[hr']

But if it were Warrior, it could be searched via RotA!!!

 

Junk Synchron + 1 Tuningware + Machine Dupe = OP

this wouldnt be as good but still pretty good

I often wonder why people kneejerk copying the "Machine Duplication" comment someone made instead of the better Inferno Reckless Summon.

 

Versatility and pulling from 3 places beats Machines at 500 or less and only from Deck anyday.

 

Maybe, but with MaDup my opponent doesn't get extra Special Summons easier.

 

EDIT: Just noticed another post with this comment. Sorry.

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Yeah' date=' depends on if they see this + Machine Dupe + ??? = broken/too powerful.[hr']

But if it were Warrior, it could be searched via RotA!!!

 

Junk Synchron + 1 Tuningware + Machine Dupe = OP

this wouldnt be as good but still pretty good

I often wonder why people kneejerk copying the "Machine Duplication" comment someone made instead of the better Inferno Reckless Summon.

 

Versatility and pulling from 3 places beats Machines at 500 or less and only from Deck anyday.

 

Machine Dupe doesnt offer the chance of giving your opponent 2 free monsters. Plus Machine Dupe just needs a monster and not a special requirement like Inferno.

 

Plus Inferno should only be used in a Battery Man deck

 

The chance? The chance comes because you allowed it. No one who uses IRS actually makes thinks that way because very few people (especially competitively) use more than one of their more used or better monsters outside of going for the kill. You use it when it's not the best time for your opponent to do much about it. And of course it "just" needs the monster to be there, it already HAS several other restrictions.

 

You play a card, there's going to be rules and risk.

 

500 or less only, Machine Only, from Deck only.

Pro: free outside of restrictions, doesn't depend on opponent's cards.

 

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1500 or less only, only when Special Summoned, opponent has to have a monster.

Pro: far more reaching, pulls essentially any monsters that can be Special Summoned (within conditions and combos), can resurrect monsters.

 

It's a simple matter of payoff. No one wants to take a risk until someone ELSE plays the deck and then everyone copies it (see also: Fallen Angel Zerato OTK which uses IRS).

 

Pick your poison. In most cases, you can use IRS in more situations and for better reasons. Especially since we are talking about a Junk/Synchron deck build. You can't use Machine D on the Calculator after Junk Synchron rez's it. You can use IRS on Calculator as well as Tuning Supporter. And those Calculators get mighty big and only make Junk Warrior bigger. And since we're talking about Junk Destroyer as well, your opponent having new monsters is irrelevant because you're about to blow them to hell.

 

I'll take the card I have more reasons to use than beyond pulling a monster I HOPE isn't already in my hand.

 

 

And only a Batteryman Deck? I've seen more uses of IRS than I have people that even will try Batteryman Decks. Apparently you've never seen the infamous combos that get IRS closer and closer to restriction. Fallen Angel Zerato OTK, Junk Warrior OTK, The Calculator OTK.

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