1000 Posts Thread, Tribe Infecting Virus [Disc]

[b0b3rt]

Alright.. I know there isn't a custom here but on other forums I visit people make threads for each 1000 posts they have.

 

This is the first account on any forum which I have ever made 1000 posts on. I suppose this is attributable to how active certain sections of this forum are and how easy it is to get involved.

 

I'd like to thank all the regulars of TCG and the Deck section for being smart, creative, funny, sometimes stupid, and often crazy. You all know who you are.

 

That being said, discuss the position of Tribe Infecting Virus on the banlist.

 

[Chaos Flame]

I think the fact that it can use the effect unlimited times per turn killed it. It can make a nice easy mini-nuke for the price of a couple cards based on what kind of deck your facing.

[Rose]

Wheres the sometimes retared? Because i belong there way too many times.

Should stay at 0. If it said "Once per turn" it wouldn't be so bad.

[b0b3rt]

???

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Lightning_Vortex

 

Should that be at 0 too? I mean, you don't even have to declare a type. Oh wait, nobody runs more then 2 (rarely that) anways. Huh. And it's not causing ridiculous OTKs either.

 

wait...

[Rose]

You can activate Tribe as many times as you want as long as you have a card in your hand per turn... Vortex is something different, as it can only be used once.

[b0b3rt]

It also takes a normal summon and is rarely more then a +0, unless your opponent hugely overextends.

 

And arguing against punishing overextension is different ;)

[darkwolf777]

Pretty sure we had a discussion of this not too long ago, but i'm not too bothered to check.

 

Either way, its a Super Snipe Hunter with a 100% chance instead of 66%, and can destroy multiple monsters instead of just one, and Snipe Hunter is already at 1.

 

Tribe Infecting Virus can stay locked up, never to return.

 

You can't compare this card to Lightning Vortex, a person can lightning vortex your field, yet they can special summon a card once you try to attack. There's no using your Lightning Vortex again, but you can still use your TIV to remove whatever they summoned to protect themselves.

 

inb4 someone tries to justify TIV by mentioning its different than Snipe Hunter since it can destroy spells/traps, and this is limited to monsters

[metalflygon08]

We just had a discussion about this, when all the ban-list predictions were going about

 

 

TOPIC IS HIJACKED TO

 

it's like PWWB but LIFE like

 

(c wut I did thar)

[.Gideon.]

discussed couple of weeks ago.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

A typing miss scheme of Konami led to it missing the words "Once per turn". That, my friend, made it dead.

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

was extremely wrong during the small period that this card was at 3 (during the release of the Water structure i believe)

its not ridicoulously broken, but its powerful enough to warrant it being left at 0. tbh, i wouldnt mind this coming to 1 next format.

 

Sinister Serpent was the 1 card that made this op'ed..

[Rose]

It also takes a normal summon and is rarely more then a +0' date=' unless your opponent hugely overextends.

 

And arguing against punishing overextension is different ;)

[/quote']

 

Still, i would just leave it banned, the less broken cards the better.

[Coffee Black]

1 at the most, and this is different from Lightning Vortex.

[Manjoume Thunder]

*ignores everything posted so far, because he is too lazy to read*

 

A Lightning Vortex that is not guaranteed to destroy everything, can destroy your own monsters and wastes a normal summon. It's body doesn't change anything, because 1600 ATK means that it won't stay out for a long time, WATER was only good last format and Aqua ... 'nuff said.

 

Should be unlimited on every list that is not retarded enough to ban Lightning Vortex.

[Toffee.]

Isnt this card effectivly the same as Snipe Hunter?

Sniper Hunter is DARK and searchable, but tends to require more cards.

Tribe Infect is WATER, isnt searchable, but can destroy more with 1 card.

Tribe Infect can also end up killing itself.

(by "searchable", I mean able to be searched via Sangan/Mystic Tomato/Mother Grizzly)

 

Alright.. I know there isn't a custom here but on other forums I visit people make threads for each 1000 posts they have.

Like when you acieve 9000 posts' date=' you make a topic about Shapesnatch =D

 

Should be unlimited on every list that is not retarded enough to ban Lightning Vortex.

That would be pretty funny XD

[Rose]

Manjoume Thunder - More like every single broken card in the game. Sadly, Konami wouldn't do that.

Armadilloz - In a way, yes.

[Scatty]

This is literally savage against Blackwings.

 

But to continue your discussion about this vs Lightning Vortex.

 

It's simply better. 1600 ATK is not much, but it's something! Also, imagine this situation:

 

Your opponent has 2 face up monsters and 1 face down monster. The 2 face up monsters share the same Type.

 

What would you do with Lightning Vortex: discard 1 card, kill 2 monsters.

What would you do with TIV: discard 1 card, kill 2 monsters. Then, attack the face down, suppose it has 1500 def. The face down is dead. Either that, or the face down is not killed, and you will simply discard 1 card to kill it later on, in main phase 2. And at the end of the turn, you'll still have an 1600 ATK monster on the field.

 

As for it being Aqua: it is Aqua because Aqua sucks and your opponent wouldn't control anything Aqua, so that there is no chance for this monster to commit suicide.

As for it being WATER: yeah, that simply sucks.

[b0b3rt]

The problem with this is that you literally have to tech it into something because it doesn't otherwise benefit any other decktype.

[.:pyramid:.]

its a type killer that requires no skillz to use

[b0b3rt]

Guys, I think if this was put @ 3 the only decks that MIGHT use this would be anti-meta, monarchs, and others that benefit from discard.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

*ignores everything posted so far' date=' because he is too lazy to read*

 

A Lightning Vortex that is not guaranteed to destroy everything, can destroy your own monsters and wastes a normal summon. It's [i']body[/i] doesn't change anything, because 1600 ATK means that it won't stay out for a long time, WATER was only good last format and Aqua ... 'nuff said.

 

Should be unlimited on every list that is not retarded enough to ban Lightning Vortex.

 

Why is Lightning Vortex untouchable? Having more than 3 monsters out at any time isn't necessarily a crime just because the cards involved in the typical means of getting more than 3 monsters out in the current game happen to be somewhat questionable. Oh, and that's just card advantage. Summoning conditions and the ease in which monsters are removed these days are disproportionate beyond all recognition.

 

Oh, and I like how you're using "WATER and Aqua-Type Decks aren't that strong guys" as an argument for unlimiting this.

[Flame Dragon]

It also takes a normal summon and is rarely more then a +0' date=' unless your opponent hugely overextends.

 

And arguing against punishing overextension is different ;)

[/quote']

Tribe does one of two things.

1) Makes every card in your hand a Smashig Ground or the like

2) A type specific Lighting Vortex that has no real limit to it's use and comes at less of a cost (LV is a -2 not counting the opponent's monsters, this is a -1).

 

Other things that set this apart from LV is it is much easier to reuse to reuse and can swing for 1/5 your opponent's life point.

 

Also this alone kills all decks that are type specific or run a lot of monsters of the same type making it even worse for the game.

[Coffee Black]

thank you Flame Dragon for proving why this shouldn't be compared to Lightning Vortex, hopefully killing that argument.

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

If anything, this should stay banned because it promotes bad plays and allows infinate discards, so it sort of works like Brionac... sort of.