Zeppelin33 Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hey guys, I need to vent about said topic in title, so just let e know if I am right about this At the college I attend, there are about 7 or 8 of us who play in between class hours, all of us proxy sometimes, because we have at least one copy of the card we're proxying. Now, heres what really flips my sheet, there is this one kid who hasn't got a clue in the world, he proxies cards he doesn't have a single copy of, for example, he has a Harpie/Blackwing deck that he uses two prxoied Dark Simorghs when he doesn't own a single copy, hes a cheap JABRONI. He proxies Synchros he doesn't have. Nextly, he proxies cards that aren't even in English TCG format yet, (i.e. Infernity Beetle, Fuel Cell Batteryman, Blackfeather Dragon etc.) so whenever he does that, I scoop and call bullshit for that, so bascially all 10 of his decks are like this (avg. 8-9 proxies per deck) and I discussed with the others and we came to the argreemant that the next time he duels one of us, and uses a proxy without owning at least one real copy, we kick him out, with very harsh language, and whenever he plays a proxy of a card thats not in English format, we kick him out, so basically hes banned from playing with us forever the time he does this, is that justifiable? anyone agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Not at all... He proxies OCG to see how the cards will work. He proxies cards he doesn't have because he plans on getting them or just wants to try them out before doing so... If you get beaten because he is making his deck the way it should be made, then you have no room to talk if he beats you... After all, that's what you will be up against once he gets the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Bring another deck thats made out of 40 proxies and own him into the ground. D: But yeah, That would bother me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 All the power to him. Screw Konami and their money hoarding ways! VIVA LA DUELISTS! VIVA LA DUELISTS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 All the power to him. Screw Konami and their money hoarding ways! VIVA LA DUELISTS! VIVA LA DUELISTS! By that logic, I should never go out and spend money on cards? Rather I'll colour my own as best I can and remake every single card I want/need. Great plan o___o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Like stated before, make a proxy deck and duel him. It'll work, but there will be no fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 All the power to him. Screw Konami and their money hoarding ways! VIVA LA DUELISTS! VIVA LA DUELISTS! By that logic' date=' I should never go out and spend money on cards? Rather I'll colour my own as best I can and remake every single card I want/need. Great plan o___o[/quote'] He means that the game is too expensive, some people don't have the money to buy a $40 piece of cardboard whenever they feel like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Bring another deck thats made out of 40 proxies and own him into the ground. D: But yeah' date=' That would bother me too.[/quote'] Two wrongs do not make a right, unfortunately. If everyone proxied, Konami would not be able to sell cards, meaning no more yugimonz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 I proxy stuff to test out certain decks. :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Why waste a bunch of money on a single piece of cardboard when you can just print out multiple copies for less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Also, proxying for casual play is no big deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin33 Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 You guys are right, I'm such a big loser for thinking that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 What would your excuse be if he was using the actual cards? The bottom line is that you lost(to a mixture of 2 decks that don't even belong together). Besides if you're using proxies too, then you can't really say anything about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Seriously, if you use even one proxy, you pretty much have to open up to fully-proxied decks for the sake of fairness. Anything else is just being a jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie17 Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Yeah I think whether you duel with his deck filled with proxies or the real thing eventually you will have to deal with those cards one way or another whether against him or another duelists. Personally I'm more collector than player, so I would want to use proxies instead of my real ones whenever possible. Plus you guys are just playing for fun. I would voice my opinion that its kind of unfair you dueling with cards that are not even out yet. I'm not your punching bag, but at the same time don't get mad at him for using proxies of existing cards in the TCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 All the power to him. Screw Konami and their money hoarding ways! VIVA LA DUELISTS! VIVA LA DUELISTS! By that logic' date=' I should never go out and spend money on cards? Rather I'll colour my own as best I can and remake every single card I want/need. Great plan o___o[/quote'] Apparently dueling online no longer exists. :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 When I was younger, I used to play with proxies of custom cards against proxies of custom cards. It was lolzy for a while, until everything turned broken (like the lol you lose cards).It was effectively a way of being more creative and cunning than your opponent.Picture if there was an online dueling site where we could USE the custom cards we made here to play (gets shot with 53 and a half shotguns, dipped in oil and burned, diced into pieces, made into a smoothie, and then attached to a rocket set for a course to the sun). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Proxies are an iffy thing. To me, it's all about the intent. I do, and have no problem when other do, proxy a card to see how it works in a deck, so I can then go and get the real card. But the intent to get the real card must, at least in my opinion, be there. Proxies are annoying in real life cards. Don't want to pay? That's cool, go play online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Bring another deck thats made out of 40 proxies and own him into the ground. D: But yeah' date=' That would bother me too.[/quote'] dude...this is just a no.... First of all... since you are using Proxies you shouldnt get on his case about using proxies... UNLESS he doesnt know the OCG for his Proxie.... THEN you can call foul..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Outside of a tournament I view all play as deck testing (even in a tournament I often think this too). So if I have a cool deck idea I want to try but don't have the cards for it I'll proxy to find out if the deck works or not. People don't mind this because EVERYONE has this mentality and everyone does this outside of a tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 did yvd + laptops get rid of all thus need for proxying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 did yvd + laptops get rid of all thus need for proxying No. A virtual shuffle actually randomises the order of cards in the deck. A real life shuffle will always have one or two cards sticking together. After a real shuffle a lot of the cards in the deck are still in the same order they were at the start of the shuffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrathos Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 All the power to him. Screw Konami and their money hoarding ways! VIVA LA DUELISTS! VIVA LA DUELISTS! By that logic' date=' I should never go out and spend money on cards? Rather I'll colour my own as best I can and remake every single card I want/need. Great plan o___o[/quote'] He means that the game is too expensive, some people don't have the money to buy a $40 piece of cardboard whenever they feel like it. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazin Kay Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 I never proxy cards, as I practically never need to. Only time I do is when I wanna test an OCG card that's about 4 weeks from a TCG release, just to see if I want it later or not.did yvd + laptops get rid of all thus need for proxying No. A virtual shuffle actually randomises the order of cards in the deck. A real life shuffle will always have one or two cards sticking together. After a real shuffle a lot of the cards in the deck are still in the same order they were at the start of the shuffle. I agree, virtual shuffle > IRL shuffle. Clear superiority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 I used to proxy now and then, mostly for deck testing or if I'm just lacking the cards IRL to complete a casual deck. I think it depends on why something's being proxied. There's- "Oh, I need X card to finish this deck, so I'll proxy it"And then there's-I dont have Mirror Force, so Proxy time! Synchros and Fusions I believe can be shamelessly proxied. Powerful staples like Mirror Force in a noob's deck I've always been iffy about, but technically I shouldn't see anything wrong with it. I think that's just been my "superiority" mentality that I picked up several years ago, but have since parted with: A player who sucks shouldn't use really good cards if they dont actually own them. Cards not in the TCG are fine, so long as the players agree proxies (in general) are legal. I proxied the Infernity cards to test them out, for example. The trick is to make sure the proxy is labeled properly, depending on HOW it's proxied (effect/name/stats on paper, or actual printouts). So, proxies are fine unless they're blatantly only being used to be overpowering. The Dark Simorgh example sounds like it might just be proxying for a huge advantage than for the sake of a good deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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