Static Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 that's sound like "i can't win because i can't have ill blud for my deck"... when a good constructed deck can make you win... if you can't understand which i said just ask a little question: how many secret cards has a reverse quiz OTK deck? or a DDT deck? how many secret cards has a macro monarch deck? (without counting marshmallon' date=' that one is like a common now) or a deckout deck? those decks wins without an expensive card, when they're good structured... let's face it, even when you have access to those cards and they're cheaper on ebay, that won't make you the best player... and god gak made a good point, you can't win with only buying, you must know your cards too...[/quote'] It never ceases to amaze me how short-sighted you are. Of course I can win without them. I do. Heck I can beat you with a blindfold, one hand behind my back and a random pile of commons judging by most of your posts. But that's not the point we are making. Venom decks aren't competitive at all. But you couldn't play them if you wanted to, you can't afford a venominaga anyway ! Counter fairies could be a tier 1 deck, but we'll never know, cause no one can afford a playset of nova, gellen, meltiel and what not. This affects the diversity of the game. And while the impact of the secret rare policy hasn't affected ones ability to win a major event YET, it surely will when people will be clamoring for secret rare CCV and Gaius the Wicked Monarch after PTDN. Lets see which macro monarch decks win jumps then ... not the ones you can afford that's for sure. And did you stop to think that nearly every one of your examples only exemplifies that the rich win in this game ? Ever tried building a DDT without DMOC, MSE, D-fusion ?(ok, well maybe YOU have, but lets say would a good player attempt that ?) Ever count how many CCV's are in extistence ? ever count how many made t16 since september ? Why am I wasting this discourse on you guys anyway ? Its painfully obvious by now none of you are smart enough of good enough players to see the impact of this. So I'll leave you wallow in your ignorance. Disregard the thread entirely ... Dumb f*cks. Aww. Sorry you feel that way. I think the better players understand that FEW (still very expensive decks) can top 16 SJC. The only reason I support the "Secret Rare" policy is because the cards look cool. What they should do is make Secret rares invaluable but well arted cards so the GAME isn't affected by them, but the collectors can still be happy with cool looking cards. Anyway, it would be good if they made Il Blud easier to get, then at least I wouldn't have to duel 10 zombie decks before I find a decent one that can get a duel, possibly a match in against me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Supreme Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 that's sound like "i can't win because i can't have ill blud for my deck"... when a good constructed deck can make you win... if you can't understand which i said just ask a little question: how many secret cards has a reverse quiz OTK deck? or a DDT deck? how many secret cards has a macro monarch deck? (without counting marshmallon' date=' that one is like a common now) or a deckout deck? those decks wins without an expensive card, when they're good structured... let's face it, even when you have access to those cards and they're cheaper on ebay, that won't make you the best player... and god gak made a good point, you can't win with only buying, you must know your cards too...[/quote'] It never ceases to amaze me how short-sighted you are. Of course I can win without them. I do. Heck I can beat you with a blindfold, one hand behind my back and a random pile of commons judging by most of your posts. But that's not the point we are making. Venom decks aren't competitive at all. But you couldn't play them if you wanted to, you can't afford a venominaga anyway ! Counter fairies could be a tier 1 deck, but we'll never know, cause no one can afford a playset of nova, gellen, meltiel and what not. This affects the diversity of the game. And while the impact of the secret rare policy hasn't affected ones ability to win a major event YET, it surely will when people will be clamoring for secret rare CCV and Gaius the Wicked Monarch after PTDN. Lets see which macro monarch decks win jumps then ... not the ones you can afford that's for sure. And did you stop to think that nearly every one of your examples only exemplifies that the rich win in this game ? Ever tried building a DDT without DMOC, MSE, D-fusion ?(ok, well maybe YOU have, but lets say would a good player attempt that ?) Ever count how many CCV's are in extistence ? ever count how many made t16 since september ? Why am I wasting this discourse on you guys anyway ? Its painfully obvious by now none of you are smart enough of good enough players to see the impact of this. So I'll leave you wallow in your ignorance. Disregard the thread entirely ... Dumb f*cks. uh....All i see is a Stupid Cheap N00b that does not know how to play ..and wants all the cards in the game...Look you cant beat an exodia n00b so dont go there ...ANYONE on this forum could beat you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 I think that secret rare must be there. It kinda makes the game more intristing and less boring then when we all have the same card. it is like we both are playing with Cyber End Dragon on the field.... kinda sucks the fun and anticipation out of the game and makes all people in the same rank and then people lose intrist in the game and go collect Magic The Gathering cards and this place closes. you may not like that your opponent has better cards but you still may win and this is what proves you are a great deulist, it isn't the card that makes a deulist it's how you play ithe card.(qoute of the day nominee lol ^_^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 I think secret rare cards look cool no matter what they are... I'm not making a fuss of anything but I feel as though Secrets should still be in the sets but they should have 4-5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 I think that secret rare must be there. It kinda makes the game more intristing and less boring then when we all have the same card. it is like we both are playing with Cyber End Dragon on the field.... kinda sucks the fun and anticipation out of the game and makes all people in the same rank and then people lose intrist in the game and go collect Magic The Gathering cards and this place closes. you may not like that your opponent has better cards but you still may win and this is what proves you are a great deulist' date=' it isn't the card that makes a deulist it's how you play ithe card.(qoute of the day nominee lol ^_^)[/quote'] Never state "I think" When stating an opinion. It makes it sound weaker, and its bad practice for Thesis papers which you will have to write later on in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 that's sound like "i can't win because i can't have ill blud for my deck"... when a good constructed deck can make you win... if you can't understand which i said just ask a little question: how many secret cards has a reverse quiz OTK deck? or a DDT deck? how many secret cards has a macro monarch deck? (without counting marshmallon' date=' that one is like a common now) or a deckout deck? those decks wins without an expensive card, when they're good structured... let's face it, even when you have access to those cards and they're cheaper on ebay, that won't make you the best player... and god gak made a good point, you can't win with only buying, you must know your cards too...[/quote'] It never ceases to amaze me how short-sighted you are. Of course I can win without them. I do. Heck I can beat you with a blindfold, one hand behind my back and a random pile of commons judging by most of your posts. But that's not the point we are making. Venom decks aren't competitive at all. But you couldn't play them if you wanted to, you can't afford a venominaga anyway ! Counter fairies could be a tier 1 deck, but we'll never know, cause no one can afford a playset of nova, gellen, meltiel and what not. This affects the diversity of the game. And while the impact of the secret rare policy hasn't affected ones ability to win a major event YET, it surely will when people will be clamoring for secret rare CCV and Gaius the Wicked Monarch after PTDN. Lets see which macro monarch decks win jumps then ... not the ones you can afford that's for sure. And did you stop to think that nearly every one of your examples only exemplifies that the rich win in this game ? Ever tried building a DDT without DMOC, MSE, D-fusion ?(ok, well maybe YOU have, but lets say would a good player attempt that ?) Ever count how many CCV's are in extistence ? ever count how many made t16 since september ? Why am I wasting this discourse on you guys anyway ? Its painfully obvious by now none of you are smart enough of good enough players to see the impact of this. So I'll leave you wallow in your ignorance. Disregard the thread entirely ... Dumb f*cks. ok, that's enough!!! your stupid and pointless N00B petition only goes on benefit of those who sells cards for a living... and really don't make me laugh!!! you winning me?? that's will happen when pigs learn how to run a perfect circle deck, anyway what kind of deck you run?? i've seen excellent decks without secret rares, the mayor rarity was promo cards (yeah, those which you can get buying blisters and special packs) and NEVER forget that when a card gets popular UDE and KONAMI could do 1 of 3 things: 1.- ban/limit that card2.- lower the rarity of the card3.- add it as a common of structure/starter deck and you're wrong, we're smart enough to NOT -and i repeat NOT- to depend on secret cards to bould good decks, you are the dumb that cannot live without those cards, a real player always search for alternatives... well, like my gramps said "the opinion is like the ass, everybody has one and everybody thinks that the other ones stinks"... and your opinion, counting the fact that you're trying to impose it like a total fascist, reaaly stinks as hell... may god, and the other forum members, forgive your rude ignorance... and may the force be with you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 The thing is that secret rares are just that. Secret. They arent supposed to be announced before the set or even on the pack. That is why they are supposed to be secret and hard to find. I do agree that there would be less of them, this way they wont bee out weighed. This is logical. However to sign this petition would be stupid. The only thing that would come out of it would be the end of secret rares all over again. Now would we like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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