Club Theme Registry - [22 Supporters Thus Far]

[Lemniscate]

Simple enough suggestion for Clubs & Organizations:

- New clubs cannot be made for topics that are already covered by at least two clubs already.

- If a club has been inactive for over a week, they no longer have claim over a topic, and a new club can be made.

 

Basically, just to stop the creation of multiple clubs for the same topic.

For example, there are currently 17 Pokemon clubs.

 

Anyway, support?

 

Supporters: 22

Lemniscate, LordDemonX, Sgt. Traveler, Ensada, MarshyK-XS, Kuro no Keiyakushu, Άř¢ħėłäűŝ, Kor² The Rampage, Rusty Shovel, Evil Hero Neos, .:Shaymin:., Yugioh42, Nígh₮ ฬαŁkεЯ™, ♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥, Cyber Altair, Zenrais, -Đædalus-, Striker9211, ~JG~, Pudpop, Alfred-kun, Atman,

 

[spoiler=Reasoning (Taken from Post in this Thread)]

Clubs would still be held to the current standards, including spam, etc.

It would just require actual enforcement of these rules, and I mean real enforcement. The section has always been unnecessarily lax. There is no reason for it to be this way. By its very nature, this suggestion would also require enforcement of the current regulations. It is important that every section be held to a minimum standard, that keeps spam away from the entire board. We can tell clubs that if they want to spam, they should create an official club game, which can be continuous, in the games section, or any other way of combating spam. We need to make sure that the section isn't constantly being flooded with spammy posts, if a Club is made, it should be held to the current standards, and there shouldn't be a massive amount of clubs for one specific topic. The Clubs and Organizations section shouldn't become a de facto spamhole. In any other section, there can't be multiple threads with the same focus, now obviously, this won't be directly implemented in C&O, but there should be some limitation on thread topics to keep the site fairly consistent in its regulations.

 

 

[Twig]

Really, all the Pokemon clubs' topics is general, not just about Pokemon. Another thing, wouldn't that mean that someone would have to keep track of that section 24/7?

 

I have to think about this one.

[NeoDemonX]

I support this because I am tier of all of these Pokemon clubs and and other types of clubs.

[Lemniscate]

@Twig: Really, the mods would just need to keep a list of clubs of a specific topics. Counting to two isn't that hard.

 

Also, for this suggestion, it wouldn't effect existing clubs, but would instead be implemented only for future use.

[KuroKibo]

Support. Goddamn those same club.

[Ensenada]

Support, even though I rarely visit Clubs and Organizations, I find this a useful suggestion.

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

You'll need to be more specific. If you just say topic, that to me revolves around keeping one from creating a club that is a tribute to a pokemon because 2 other members have done that.

 

This would greatly undermine the number of clubs being made with IS needed but this will also hamper creativity.

 

I'm torn between Support or Non-support

[♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥]

Good suggestion, but unfortunately, will never happen, as it is too sophisticated, and has been suggested slightly a bit TOO late. No moderator will bother searching through tons of clubs just to get this system in place. It's just too tedious, and knowing them, they don't have the time to bother.

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Hmm...I suppose I chose No-Support. A) There is what Strawberry-nii-chan said [and] B) This would negate nearly all club making. This would make ALL YVD themed clubs illegal since there are over 2 already. What if that was the only connecting feature? The only link between the two is the theme. Everything else is different. It's still forbidden. You could have a YVD themed club and it have ranks, events, holiday days, the whole shi-bang. And then 2 other clubs made before that are just dull boring garbage of just members and a theme. The new fun extravagant club would be locked since there is already 2 existing YVD themed clubs.

 

I say no-Support.

[Twig]

I have decided...no-support.

 

 

Lovely CC and Strawberry explained it well.

[MarshyK-XS]

I support, here have been pointless clubs trying to counter out the existing ones

 

mK

[//Zeromaru//]

So because you dislike the new pokemon clubs that die within a week, you want a blanket rule for all new clubs?

 

No Support

[Gogeta™]

This sound like a good idea but maybe change 1 week to 2 weeks because sometimes a thread dies down then heats up again. Maybe have at least 4 or 5 clubs under the same topic as long as their is a specific variation between them.

[Lemniscate]

Good suggestion' date=' but unfortunately, will never happen, as it is too sophisticated, and has been suggested slightly a bit TOO late. No moderator will bother searching through tons of clubs just to get this system in place. It's just too tedious, and knowing them, they don't have the time to bother.

[/quote']

 

This is a ridiculous argument. Assuming the moderators are lazy and therefore not supporting a small regulation on the Clubs & Organizations section only perpetuates the idea that moderators are lazy by not giving them any new responsibilities to test work ethic. Your entire argument is defeatist, and you yourself admit that the idea is good. Anything beyond the merit of the idea is extraneous and shouldn't be included in decision making.

 

Hmm...I suppose I chose No-Support. A) There is what Strawberry-nii-chan said [and] B) This would negate nearly all club making. This would make ALL YVD themed clubs illegal since there are over 2 already. What if that was the only connecting feature? The only link between the two is the theme. Everything else is different. It's still forbidden. You could have a YVD themed club and it have ranks' date=' events, holiday days, the whole shi-bang. And then 2 other clubs made before that are just dull boring garbage of just members and a theme. The new fun extravagant club would be locked since there is already 2 existing YVD themed clubs.

 

I say no-Support.

[/quote']

 

While this is obviously a possibility, it would then fall to those who wish to make a new club to either talk to a moderator and get special permission to create their own YVD club, or talk with the leaders of the existing clubs and working out some deal with them.

 

So because you dislike the new pokemon clubs that die within a week' date=' you want a blanket rule for all new clubs?

 

No Support

[/quote']

 

I have no specific qualm against the Pokemon clubs, I was merely using them as an example of the current problem that this suggestion is trying to negate.

 

This sound like a good idea but maybe change 1 week to 2 weeks because sometimes a thread dies down then heats up again. Maybe have at least 4 or 5 clubs under the same topic as long as their is a specific variation between them.

 

I can understand a 2 week time period instead of one, but having four or five would not serve the truly fix the problem, you would still have a flooded section with similar clubs.

 

 

Everyone who stated support has been added to the first post.

 

 

 

Also, the logic behind this is merely to stop the section from being flooded with nearly identical threads in terms of topic. If you'll notice, other sections across the site would consider threads such as those duplicates, and lock them. I am merely suggesting a similar (although more lax) policy for Clubs and Organizations to help streamline the section and keep it from being as flooded with posts as it is now.

[Twig]

Other sections with duplicate topics have to be locked because they will be talking about the exact same thing. Clubs, in the other hand, always have a different topic from one another even though they have the same theme. Club Pikachu is a Pokemon club, but we like to talk about anything in general. Other Pokemon clubs only talk about Pokemon.

 

That's why I don't see it as a problem.

[Lemniscate]

Other sections with duplicate topics have to be locked because they will be talking about the exact same thing. Clubs' date=' in the other hand, always have a different topic from one another even though they have the same theme. Club Pikachu is a Pokemon club, but we like to talk about anything in general. Other Pokemon clubs only talk about Pokemon.

 

That's why I don't see it as a problem.

[/quote']

 

But when you have multiple clubs that all have the same topic, the section becomes so flooded that clubs that are more original are stifled as they become pushed to page 3 in the section within hours. There are other clubs in the section, and having such a large number of clubs with the same topic limits the rest of the section by making it harder for clubs to gain members, and increasing spam as clubs attempt to keep themselves at the top of the first page.

[Twig]

Other sections with duplicate topics have to be locked because they will be talking about the exact same thing. Clubs' date=' in the other hand, always have a different topic from one another even though they have the same theme. Club Pikachu is a Pokemon club, but we like to talk about anything in general. Other Pokemon clubs only talk about Pokemon.

 

That's why I don't see it as a problem.

[/quote']

 

But when you have multiple clubs that all have the same topic, the section becomes so flooded that clubs that are more original are stifled as they become pushed to page 3 in the section within hours. There are other clubs in the section, and having such a large number of clubs with the same topic limits the rest of the section by making it harder for clubs to gain members, and increasing spam as clubs attempt to keep themselves at the top of the first page.

 

I spend most of my time at the Club section. Original Clubs actually get more members than the multiple duplicate clubs because members of those duplicate clubs don't join other duplicate clubs causing all the duplicate clubs have less members. Take a look at my writing club, it has a lot of members because it's the only writing club there is. Soon, the multiple duplicate clubs will disappear one by one until only two or three remain.

[Lemniscate]

Exactly the point, this will help to raise the quality of the section by removing those duplicate clubs in the first place, it will also force clubs to keep the quality of their club high, as they will still be help to the current spam requirements, but now will be required to keep up activity all the same in order to still hold claim on the theme. This will greatly help reduce spam in the section by removing the duplicate clubs, and keeping things to two clubs on a specific topic.

And as I already stated, if they want to create a club, and think their theme is different enough from a current club, they can talk to a moderator and get permission to make the club.

[Kuro no Keiyakushu]

Support.

[Lemniscate]

Added to first post.

Thanks for the support.

[Guest War Torn]

Had the same problem. I tried to follow N.D.L.'s foot steps, but they convinced me to change the name and the way I run my club. Anyway, for now, no support

[Archelaus]

Support.

[Flexh]

What if this mod is on a holiday though

 

good idea though

[Shocked]

Support...

[Lemniscate]

What if this mod is on a holiday though

 

good idea though

 

Mod would then put a small announcement up redirecting the responsibility to another mod.

It's a non-issue.

 

Adding supporters to first post, thanks for the support.