chaoticflame5 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I hope you're right on that, cause I'd love to see JD @ 1 (Although that would be complete overkill on LS). This is gonna be a pretty good format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson General Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 can we get someone reputable to confirm which list is legit? also' date=' this list is missing:brio, jd, dad, gyzarus, ab 0 banned diva limited[/quote'] I would second this, I was only passing along info. JD is limited.The translation was Dragon of Justice. Judgement Dragon. Not foolish or mind crush. I don;t know what to believe anymore, I searched that list for his kanji, and turned up empty, and either one could work really. but whats true is the actual mag has 13 spots, original translation only has 12, so either they messed up, or they forgot one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 JD at 1 isn't overkilling LS. >.>Also, this format won't be great. I'll be expecting alot of Mirror Matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoticflame5 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Ok, if they're going to limit charge, lumina, and necro gardna, and semi solar recharge and honest, and hit JD all at the same time, yeah, that's overkill. That would kill every pure lightsworn deck out there. Could LS engines mixed in with something else or Twilight survive? Of course. Pure LS is still playable, but not competitively. It couldn't keep up with BWs or Gladiators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I hope you're right on that' date=' cause I'd love to see JD @ 1 (Although that would be complete overkill on LS). This is gonna be a pretty good format.[/quote'] To be completely honest, I really have no sympathy for Lightsworns..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson General Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Ok' date=' if they're going to limit charge, lumina, and necro gardna, and semi solar recharge and honest, and hit JD all at the same time, yeah, that's overkill. That would kill every pure lightsworn deck out there. Could LS engines mixed in with something else or Twilight survive? Of course. Pure LS is still playable, but not competitively. It couldn't keep up with BWs or Gladiators.[/quote'] Solar and Judgment arn't going to my knowledge. Niether of thier Kanji show up on THIS LIST: http://i49.tinypic.com/qntwk3.jpg I'm tempted to believe it was a mis-translation or someone jumping the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Exactly. LS as a decktype are bad for the game. That's like saying banning CED was overkill because you needed Yata to do the lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 can we get someone reputable to confirm which list is legit?This list is the real deal. It's clearly V-Jump since it's like past list' date=' so side from a couple of mistakes this is the real thing. also, this list is missing:brio, jd, dad, gyzarus, ab 0 banned diva limitedNo it's not. This is the real thing. At the very least it's clear they have no new banned cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Can someone please try and verify to get the exact list so we can all not waste time discussing an inaccurate one? >____> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoticflame5 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I don't think anyone really does, nor do they really deserve sympathy since Konami basically did all they could to allow LS to thrive this format. However, Konami seems to lack of sense of balancing everything out. Instead, they revert to destroying powerful decks that are only out of control because of their own doing, and they kill the dominant ones and a few that might have a chance but always manage to leave one unaccounted so that that one deck becomes the new major power of the format. Of course, this is so they always have a major deck to rake in cash. It is a business decision, but that's how this goes down all the time. Like when Perfect Circle Monarchs were huge, then were taken down and Dark Armed Return reigned for a little while, and that got taken out and then TeleDaD owned everything. After TeleDad, remember that brief period after the first SJC of that format when everyone and their mother decided that Drain Dad was the best thing since sliced bread? That was almost all anyone ran. That was, of course, until Raging Battle came out, and Black Wings and Cat Synchro reigned supreme. Yeah, remember those days? When Delta Crow-Anti Reverse, which is like a 10$ card now, was like 30 bucks? DSF was even higher, and Arcanite Magician got a boost too? Oh no, then they decided to kill those (Ban DSF, limit Gale, limit Rescue Cat =O). Then Lightsworns and Zombies this format, with LS being the more dominant, and Twilight up there as well. Twilight and "Chaos" (if you can call it that) got big to the point that the Ultra Sorc in Turbo Pack 2 was up at 60 at first release and might still even be there (haven't cared to check lately). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson General Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Can someone please try and verify to get the exact list so we can all not waste time discussing an inaccurate one? >____> The only mess ups were the ones I posted -Solar Recharge-Judgment +Mind Crush to 1+Foolish Burial to 1+United we Stand to 2 Just compare the Kanji on the Mag, to the Kanji on Wikia or somthing and you'll see that JD and Recharge are not on it but everything else is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoticflame5 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Exactly. LS as a decktype are bad for the game. That's like saying banning CED was overkill because you needed Yata to do the lock. Banning CED wasn't over kill because you still had BLS Envoy o.O And CED didn't need Yata. CED by itself was overpowered. Yata was just there to basically say, "In case you weren't sure that the game was over after getting hit by Emperor Dragon, you won't have any more cards for the rest of the game. GG" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 JD is still semi. It's confirmed. Forbidden: Black Luster Soldier - Envoy Of The BeginningChaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy Of The EndCyber JarCyber-SteinDark Magician Of ChaosDestiny Hero - Disk CommanderFiber JarMagical ScientistMagician Of FaithMakyura The DestructorSinister SerpentTribe-Infecting VirusTsukuyomiVictory DragonWitch Of The Black ForestYata-GarasuDark Strike FighterThousand-Eyes RestrictButterfly Dagger - ElmaCard Of Safe ReturnChange Of HeartConfiscationDark HoleDelinquent DuoDimension FusionGraceful CharityHarpie's Feather DusterLast WillMetamorphosisMirage Of NightmareMonster RebornPainful ChoicePot Of GreedPremature BurialRaigekiSnatch StealThe Forceful SentryCrush Card VirusExchange Of The SpiritImperial OrderLast TurnRing Of DestructionTime Seal Limited: Blackwing - Gale The WhirlwindCard TrooperChaos Sorcerer (Semi Limited - Limited)Dark Armed DragonElemental Hero StratosExodia The Forbidden OneGladiator Beast BestiariGorz The Emissary Of DarknessLumina, Lightsworn Summoner (New; Limited)MarshmallonMezuki (Semi Limited - Limited)Mind MasterMorphing JarNecroface (Semi Limited - Limited)Necro Gardna (New; Limited)Neo-Spacian Grand MoleNight AssailantPlaguespreader ZombieRescue CatSanganSnipe HunterSpirirt ReaperSummoner MonkTragoedia (New; Limited)Left Arm Of The Forbidden OneLeft Leg Of The Forbidden OneRight Arm Of The Forbidden OneRight Leg Of The Forbidden OneBrionac, Dragon of the Ice BarrierBlack Rose DragonGoyo GuardianAdvanced Ritual ArtAllure of Darkness (Semi Limited - Limited)Brain ControlBurial from a Different Dimension (New; Limited)Card DestructionCharge of the Light Brigade (New; Limited)Cold WaveDestiny Draw (New; Limited)Emergency TeleportFuture FusionFoolish Burial (Semi Limited - Limited)Giant TrunadeHeavy StormLevel Limit - Area BLimiter RemovalMegamorphMind ControlMonster GateMystical Space TyphoonOne For OneOverload FusionReasoningReinforcement Of The ArmyScapegoatSwords Of Revealing LightCall Of The HauntedCeasefireGravity BindMagic CylinderMagical Explosion (New; Limited)Mirror ForceMind Crush (Semi Limited - Limited)Ojama TrioReturn From The Different DimensionSolemn JudgmentThe Transmigration ProphecyTorrential TributeTrap DustshootWall Of Revealing Light Semi-Limited: Cyber Dragon (Limited - Semi Limited)Dandylion (Limited - Semi Limited)Destiny Hero - MaliciousGoblin ZombieHonest (New; Semi-Limited)Judgment DragonLonefire BlossomTreeborn Frog (Limited - Semi Limited)Demise,King Of Armageddon (Limited - Semi Limited)Black Whirlwind (New; Semi Limited)Chain StrikeGold SarcophagusUnited We Stand (Limited - Semi Limited)Magical Stone ExcavationBottomless Trap HoleRoyal Decree (New; Semi-Limited)Royal Oppression (New; Semi-Limited)Skill Drain (New; Semi-Limited)Ultimate Offering No Longer Limited Mask Of Darkness (Semi Limited - No Longer on List)Smashing Ground (Limited - No Longer on List) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson General Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 @Psycho Shocker Android see?? now I'm not the only one trying to say so. Still dunno why JD wasn;t when Necro Gardna and Lumina were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Can someone please try and verify to get the exact list so we can all not waste time discussing an inaccurate one? >____> The only mess ups were the ones I posted -Solar Recharge-Judgment +Mind Crush to 1+Foolish Burial to 1+United we Stand to 2 Just compare the Kanji on the Mag' date=' to the Kanji on Wikia or somthing and you'll see that JD and Recharge are not on it but everything else is.[/quote'] I can't clearly see the kanji on the magazine. That's why I asked. Anyways, with this I can safely say that Konami has strengthened Morphtronics, PTD Morphs, and Machines in general with these past few lists. I am satisfied. More than, actually. With LS gone kaput (mostly), Zombies weakened (AGAIN), and strengthening of Machines, a Machine deck may hit the meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Why did they limit Mind Crush? No one funking used it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson General Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Morphtronic Format (j/k) especially when Shining Darkness comes out and we get the awesomsauce that is Cleanen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Can someone please try and verify to get the exact list so we can all not waste time discussing an inaccurate one? >____> From what I can tell on the list JD is not their. It's hard for me to read the scans, and I'm only compairing the Kanji to the one wiki has, but I can't see his name. At the same time I can' Mind Crush any where. I do think that I see Foolish. We will just need to wait and see. But since it doesn't look like they hit JD, really, WTF. He clearly is a problem, but no, they hit every other card but him. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 What the hell is Konami thinking? Why is it so hard for them to ban Judgement Dragon?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 We will just need to wait and see. Does anybody know when konami is going to release the new list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson General Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Can someone please try and verify to get the exact list so we can all not waste time discussing an inaccurate one? >____> From what I can tell on the list JD is not their. It's hard for me to read the scans' date=' and I'm only compairing the Kanji to the one wiki has, but I can't see his name. At the same time I can' Mind Crush any where. We will just need to wait and see.[/quote'] I could See Mind Crush, it's second from the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 We will just need to wait and see. Does anybody know when konami is going to release the new list?This is the new list. They always release them in the V-Jump. Right now we just need to find out what the last few cards are. Can someone please try and verify to get the exact list so we can all not waste time discussing an inaccurate one? >____> From what I can tell on the list JD is not their. It's hard for me to read the scans' date=' and I'm only compairing the Kanji to the one wiki has, but I can't see his name. At the same time I can' Mind Crush any where. We will just need to wait and see.[/quote'] I could See Mind Crush, it's second from the bottom.Mind telling me which line. Trying to match thing with the Kanji that small is hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson General Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 @Flame Dragon The Limited list (red one) 12th down, the one right before the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 @Psycho Shocker Android see?? now I'm not the only one trying to say so. Still dunno why JD wasn;t when Necro Gardna and Lumina were. You see in japan armageddon knight + necro gardna with triple burial was very popular. It ensures you don't lose to OTKs. BftDD was the most played card if I'm not mistaken. LSZ was running 3, GYBF runs 3 and zombies ran 2-3. I'm glad it's over. Also multiple Lumina coupled with Garoth is far more dangerous that JD. It could get you a couple cards along with some wulfs and necros. You'd get around +4 with this. Now with a single charge and lumina you solve this problem. Don't forget it will be harder to get 4 different LS fast for JD. LS will need a different approach. Something less aggressive but more stable. Plus, if you're not overextending JD shouldn't be a major problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 It is a conspiracy, they cannot limit or ban Judgment Dragon because there are too many fans that obsess over the set and copy-pasta decks from online to use as their irl decks after begging their parents for money to buy it. So in short, Lightsworns took a hit, but are not dead yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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