For the sake of today, lets discuss Test Tiger

[CrabHelmet]

 

Screw Valentine's Day. Today is a far more important holiday than that.

 

Anyhow, discuss list position and stuff.

[Mehmani]

1.

 

If Glads get more support (who knows what will happen, it's Konami, remember?) then it should be at 1. And because Glads bore me.

[BulletMan]

Quite lethal when used correctly. Became more lethal when Samnite came around with the aid of Rescue Cat and Airbellum.

[CrabHelmet]

Awesome, we have an unsupported declaration of a non-standard position and someone ignoring list discussion entirely.

 

YCM, you never fail to fail.

[werewolfjedi]

needs to be cuter, in order to make itself not as annoying to people who play aganist it.

 

great support, but the deck summon + effect as if summoned by battle effect is a bit much.

[L_Lawliet083]

glad decks should run at least 2

[CrabHelmet]

And now we have two more people who refuse to discussion list position.

 

You guys remember Atem's avatar, don't you? It is so appropriate for this situation.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

It's a -1. Though it's effect may lead to +1s or 1-for-1s, it is by no means the source of any problem.

[CrabHelmet]

Finally, someone actually says something intelligent! Granted, it's PikaPerson, which means it is to be expected and doesn't really give YCM any credit, but at least it's something. >_> THANK YOU PIKAPERSON FOR SAVING THIS THREAD FROM STUPIDITY WILL YOU BE MY CHINESE NEW YEARENTINE?

[Mehmani]

It's a -1. Though it's effect may lead to +1s or 1-for-1s' date=' it is by no means the source of any problem.

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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Rescue_Cat

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

It's a -1. Though it's effect may lead to +1s or 1-for-1s' date=' it is by no means the source of any problem.

[/quote']

 

This, it's fine at 3.

[daboss144]

At 3 on any good list.

[Wizarus]

Ban the cat. Keep this card at 3. At best it's a 1-4-1 without it, and Rescue Cat is really the only reason it's a problem.

[.:pyramid:.]

when playing it correctly its a +0 i.e searching out bestari, momo, (the guy who gets you war chariot, and even then its iffy summoning him this way), and darius. really the only things it should bother to search out with this.

 

garuzy(or however you spell it), is the only problem with gb's, while this allows gb's to be able to play agressivly/control in main phase 1 so they can be a proactive archtype. rather than without it where they would only be able to be reactive, after your oppoenent attack or you attack durring the main pahse 2.

 

its great support, should be at 3

[Tronta]

disagree entirely. the cost of the gladiator toolbox is successfully attacking, running the risk of roar, mirror force, etc. furthermore, the cost of running gbs is that by their nature, they may perform ridiculously powerful field nuking and swarming combos, but only after the battle phase. having a card, which takes no cost to summon, that completely ignores these costs, allowing great combos to be made before the battle phase, which in turn will allow even greater combos to be made afterward, is absolutely appalling.

 

it's a disgusting mess and it's the only thing wrong with gbs (besides gyzarus and warchariot's wrong name) in my opinion.

 

list position: 1

why? because i funking hate it.

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

3 posts at 4:24, awesomesauce.

[werewolfjedi]

And now we have two more people who refuse to discussion list position.

 

You guys remember Atem's avatar' date=' don't you? It is so appropriate for this situation.

[/quote']

 

I don't know myself, it's useful, and can change the tide of battle, but if their glad beast deck sucks (or you killed off all the useful ones.), it won't help.

 

and you did say "and stuff", allowing us to say our minds on the card itself, and not it's list position.

 

don't say that next time, and I won't make a comment without placing my list position opininon in it if I have one.

[BulletMan]

Awesome' date=' we have an unsupported declaration of a non-standard position and someone ignoring list discussion entirely.

 

YCM, you never fail to fail.

[/quote']

 

I didn't see the "lists discuss its place on the list", so yeah. It's valentines day, so show some luv. 8)

 

I don't find him broken or anything much that would make him be on the list. Rescue Cat is the problem, which he's Limited now. >___>

 

He's just good IMO.

[Mehmani]

 

Screw Valentine's Day. Today is a far more important holiday than that.

 

Anyhow' date=' discuss list position [b']and stuff[/b].

 

And stuff. Hmmm.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

It's a -1. Though it's effect may lead to +1s or 1-for-1s' date=' it is by no means the source of any problem.

[/quote']

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Rescue_Cat

 

Which is solely the result of a problem within Test Tiger, and not at all a problem within the mechanics of Rescue Cat, correct?

 

the cost of running gbs is that by their nature' date=' they may perform ridiculously powerful field nuking and swarming combos, but only after the battle phase. having a card, which takes no cost to summon, that completely ignores these costs, allowing great combos to be made before the battle phase, which in turn will allow even greater combos to be made afterward, is absolutely appalling.[/quote']

 

In your humble opinion then, why is it the fault of Test Tiger? Should it not be the cards that "may perform ridiculously powerful field nuking" and "swarming combos" that are the problem, if a problem does in fact exist?

[-Berserker-]

I remember my last match. In one moment, I had a 3100 ATK Synchro and another beatstick, and 1 Face-down card. My opponent's field was empty. He drew Murmillo, summoned it, summoned this, effect, summon Murmillo, destroy my monster, summon another of this, summon Murmillo again, destroys my other monster, summoned other of this, summoned Bestiari and destroyed my face down, that was Bottomless and I chained to it.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

I remember my last match. In one moment, I had a 3100 ATK Synchro and another beatstick, and 1 Face-down card. My opponent's field was empty. He drew some random card. Activated Fissure. Effect, destroy my monster, activate another Fissure, destroys my other monster, summoned Breaker the Magical Warrior and destroyed my face down, that was Bottomless and I chained to it.

[BulletMan]

I remember my last match. In one moment' date=' I had a 3100 ATK Synchro and another beatstick, and 1 Face-down card. My opponent's field was empty. He drew Murmillo, summoned it, summoned this, effect, summon Murmillo, destroy my monster, summon another of this, summon Murmillo again, destroys my other monster, summoned other of this, summoned Bestiari and destroyed my face down, that was Bottomless and I chained to it.

[/quote']

 

He wasted 4 cards in his hand to get rid of 2 of your monsters (and 1 Trap) and get his Bestari removed...

 

You won I hope.

 

EDIT: And once, I had a Monarch and a face down during my opponents turn, he drew into brain control, took my monarch, E-tele a krebons, Synchd for Stardust, Summoned DAD and then JD. He removed a DARK to destroy my face-down. It was Jar of Greed so I chained and I drew the last piece of Exodia and won.

[-Berserker-]

I remember my last match. In one moment' date=' I had a 3100 ATK Synchro and another beatstick, and 1 Face-down card. My opponent's field was empty. He drew Murmillo, summoned it, summoned this, effect, summon Murmillo, destroy my monster, summon another of this, summon Murmillo again, destroys my other monster, summoned other of this, summoned Bestiari and destroyed my face down, that was Bottomless and I chained to it.

[/quote']

 

He wasted 4 cards in his hand to get rid of 2 of your monsters (and 1 Trap) and get his Bestari removed...

 

You won I hope.

 

Don't doubt it...

[CrabHelmet]

@peopletalkingabout&stuff: Test Tiger is so obviously good in its deck and so obviously useless outside of its deck that there is nothing worth discussing besides list position. Unless, of course, you people are so thick that its strength doesn't go without saying.

 

I remember my last match. In one moment' date=' I had a 3100 ATK Synchro and another beatstick, and 1 Face-down card. My opponent's field was empty. He drew some random card. Activated Fissure. Effect, destroy my monster, activate another Fissure, destroys my other monster, summoned Breaker the Magical Warrior and destroyed my face down, that was Bottomless and I chained to it.

[/quote']

 

Silly Pika, everyone knows that Breaker doesn't get priority~