Jazin Kay Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 For a long time, I had a feeling Gold Sarcophagus was poorly drawn and uneven. I put it in MS Paint and confirmed my suspicions with STRAIGHT lines Are there any card artworks you think are rather terribly drawn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCodyPwns Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Worm_Jetelikpse i win right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazin Kay Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 A walking poop with a vagina? Yes, easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I don't understand what the Gold Sarcophagus image is supposed to prove. No, its lines aren't parallel to the panel borders. I don't see why that should be regarded as a mistake, or as a defect, or, well, as anything other than an artistic decision. In fact, I would estimate that it is drawn in one-point perspective, with the vanishing point off-panel to the extreme left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazin Kay Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I have no idea what "artistic decision" would yield that without thinking the image's purpose was to be abstract. It is not drawn at a one-point perspective, evident by no other sides than the front being visible. If that were the case, we'd at least see a glimpse of the side closer to the viewpoint. I took advanced art classes all through highschool. I can only view this as a mistake. Minor, but technical. If I drew this, my original art teacher would make me redraw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfowt Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 ... and I thought my art teacher was tough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazin Kay Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I loved my teacher. He was a nut-buster, but he was the best I ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMan Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 It's not that they did it wrong. It's just that one side is closer than the other. >_____> Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I have no idea what "artistic decision" would yield that without thinking the image's purpose was to be abstract. Every visual must either be have its central object be perfectly parallel to its borders or be abstract? That's the first I've heard of any such rule. It is not drawn at a one-point perspective' date=' evident by no other sides than the front being visible. If that were the case, we'd at least see a glimpse of the side closer to the viewpoint.[/quote'] Not necessarily. The viewpoint is very close to the sarcophagus. Zoomed out, we would certainly see some of its side, but at this distance the side is blocked by the remainder of the front. Compare standing in front of a large building near no corners and facing it at a slightly non-perpendicular angle. The building will in perspective appear to slightly converge in the direction you are slightly facing, but you are close enough to the building that you cannot see any other side of it. For example: Clearly, this wall is being seen at an angle. Its top and bottom do not align with the picture's borders at all. Despite this, we cannot see the edge of the wall that you claim should be visible on the picture's left side. I took advanced art classes all through highschool. I can only view this as a mistake. Minor' date=' but technical. If I drew this, my original art teacher would make me redraw it.[/quote'] That wall looks unrealistic. I'll need to rebuild it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I have no idea what "artistic decision" would yield that without thinking the image's purpose was to be abstract. It is not drawn at a one-point perspective' date=' [b']evident by no other sides than the front being visible[/b]. If that were the case, we'd at least see a glimpse of the side closer to the viewpoint. I took advanced art classes all through highschool. I can only view this as a mistake. Minor, but technical. If I drew this, my original art teacher would make me redraw it. You can see the bottom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 It's perspective. You don't see another side of the box because it's actually flat. The card searched is not actually "inside" it. It's in another dimension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Paladin92 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Technically, you CAN see another side, if you think of this geometrically, and this as a rectangular prism, then you can side the side facing you, and the battom of the prism. So (If a definition of one point perspective is that you can see multiple sides and there is a vanishing point) this could easily be one-point perspective and not a defect. Then again, I'm no art major, but I did take two years of art in school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazin Kay Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 That wall isn't an accurate defense, Crab Helmet. You can't see the edge of the wall closest to you. In the art of Gold Sarcophagus, you can. Without that wall's edge visible, you can't say for certain that it is at an angle. Since all sides of Gold Sarcophagus are visible, we can attest that it is placed straight in front of us, not at an angle, except that strange lid. It's not that they did it wrong. It's just that one side is closer than the other. >_____> Simple.Except it isn't. In that case, the object's relative size in contrast to how close it is would be proportional. It is not. It is "bulging" upwards, as if the carpenter who crafted that box did not properly measure the sides of the box before constructing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Indeed, that image is not an accurate illustration of what I think is supposed to be going on here. Since I'm too lazy to find an image, I'll draw a diagram with the power of FIXED-WIDTH FONT!..............|.................|.................|.................|.................|.................|...--------------+......................................................................V......................The red and blue walls are walls of a large building that extend off the diagram. You are the V, looking not directly at the building but rather at a slight angle to the left (as if you were looking down the left fork of a "V"). The blue wall converges to a perspective point to the left. The corner of the building - the "+" - is in your visual field. However, the red wall is not, as you have no line of sight to it. The one problem I can see with this is that it will presumably produce a fish-eye effect, which means that the picture's real problem is that the lines are too straight - as the angle changes, they should bend and become parallel, until eventually curving toward each other again toward a second perspective point on the extreme right. (Of course, there's always the possibility that the box is not a rectangular prism, the angle is not a right angle, and the back of the box is smaller than the front. It's an ancient cursed thingymajig; people who can make ancient cursed thingymajigs can design those ancient cursed thingymajigs as bizarrely as they want, since they can just murder anyone who questions them.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Does anyone think that the Sarc could have been open and its lid was not inserted back properly? Yes, no, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensenada Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Perspective, my friend. Perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 WHAT IS THIS TOPIC I DONT EVEN.... Seriously....I thought maniacal artist complex shall be discused in the Graphic Design Forum.... Also the art in the cards is only a visual description which become unvaluable when compared to the Playability and Effectiveness of a card which IS WHAT IT REALLY MATTERS. Except it isn't. In that case' date=' the object's relative size in contrast to how close it is would be proportional. It is not. It is "bulging" upwards, as if the [b']carpenter[/b] who crafted that box did not properly measure the sides of the box before constructing it. ITT: Gold sarcophaguses made of Gold were made with Wood by a carpenter....XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Does anyone think that the Sarc could have been open and its lid was not inserted back properly? Yes' date=' no, maybe?[/quote'] well duh. I just put something in there for safe keeping for a sec, and I'm going to get it right out again soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 WHAT IS THIS TOPIC I DONT EVEN.... Seriously....I thought maniacal artist complex shall be discused in the Graphic Design Forum.... Also the art in the cards is only a visual description which become unvaluable when compared to the Playability and Effectiveness of a card which IS WHAT IT REALLY MATTERS. To be completely honest, I used to think this way, until I played a few games on YVD without uploading the images a month ago. It really feels like a different game without those images and you really get a sense of how much we take the artwork for granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 WHAT IS THIS TOPIC I DONT EVEN.... Seriously....I thought maniacal artist complex shall be discused in the Graphic Design Forum.... Also the art in the cards is only a visual description which become unvaluable when compared to the Playability and Effectiveness of a card which IS WHAT IT REALLY MATTERS. To be completely honest' date=' I used to think this way, until I played a few games on YVD without uploading the images a month ago. It really feels like a different game without those images and you really get a sense of how much we take the artwork for granted.[/quote'] I know but there some time were art is put Over what the card can do...and some time even the card name.... It is not like...YEAH i dont care for pics...I started playing MTG Coz the art for everycard was pwnsome.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 It's perspective. You don't see another side of the box because it's actually flat. The card searched is not actually "inside" it. It's in another dimension. YU-GI-OH! Rule 577: IF YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN SOMETHING' date=' IT'S [s']MAGIC[/s] FROM A DIFFERENT DIMENSION!. Caps were used to emphasize this important rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 It's perspective. You don't see another side of the box because it's actually flat. The card searched is not actually "inside" it. It's in another dimension. YU-GI-OH! Rule 577: IF YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN SOMETHING' date=' IT'S [s']MAGIC[/s] FROM A DIFFERENT DIMENSION!. Caps were used to emphasize this important rule. The card is removed from play. The Different Dimension (D.D.)-themed cards are about the RFG zone, so we can say it's in another dimension... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbdnate Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I am not an artist at all, but I can say that what happened here was a mistake. If you look at the bottom of the box, it is indeed flat, but the rest of the box is sloping towards the left... @ TC: I have seen it... Now I will never be able to unsee it... thanks... -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Here is a random picture of a random deck box of Yu-Gi-Oh cards, taken as best and as straight as I could with my DSi, because I don't have a camera, but I have a DSi: And then the image was edited with photoshop to add the blue lines and to adjust the angle on the thing and etc etc.I then tilted my DSi ever so slightly, doing my best to not even touch the deck box and I got this: Random white corners is me not knowing what the hell I'm doing on photoshop.Either I'm a funking wizard and I don't know it, or you need to learn2prespective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Here is a random picture of a random deck box of Yu-Gi-Oh cards' date=' taken as best and as straight as I could with my DSi, because I don't have a camera, but I have a DSi: [img']http://i47.tinypic.com/32zoqdi.jpg[/img]And then the image was edited with photoshop to add the blue lines and to adjust the angle on the thing and etc etc.I then tilted my DSi ever so slightly, doing my best to not even touch the deck box and I got this: Random white corners is me not knowing what the hell I'm doing on photoshop.Either I'm a f***ing wizard and I don't know it, or you need to learn2prespective. I keep my fun magic deck in a box like that.and yes perspective changes everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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