shadowferret Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Okay, I dunno if a topic's been made on this already, so bear with me. Apparently, at the last Shounen Jump, an odd ruling was made on Lightsworn. Lightsworn player ends his turn, milling. The opponent has Macro Cosmos on the field, so of course each of the cards gets removed from play. Supposedly, some Level 5 Judge at Shounen made the following ruling: If Lightsworn mills while Macro Cosmos/Banisher Of The Radiance/Light is on the field, the cards sent will be removed from play instead of sent to the Graveyard. Then, since the effect of the Lightsworn didn't properly work (being sent outta play instead of to the Graveyard), the effect activates again, milling once more. They get sent outta play again, and the effect would activate again, creating an endless loop until the player decks out. At my locals, everyone is going by this ruling now, but I personally don't think it's legit. Thoughts, confirmation, or refute, anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest setojim Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 wow that judge is so stupid. thats not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 EVERYONE, SIDE MACRO FOR LIGHTSWORNS UNTIL THEY CORRECT THIS!!! xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.F.Yuji Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Apparently, That Judge has the same thoughts I have on Lightsworn: Overused, now, if only there was a way to kill Blackwings like this, then I'd be pleased >:3. On a more serious note, What a Moronic Judge, I liked that the Lightsworn got hit at that Tournament like that, but still, he's a idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Creature Swap+Macro=3 card OTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Creature Swap+Macro=3 card OTK Lulz, this. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 And let's not forget Foolish Burial + Dimensional Fissure + that Gren Maju guy = 3-card OTK. This ruling is absurdly stupid and completely untenable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Guys, I remember back in 2008ish when a Level 5 made an incorrect ruling. Now, because of this ruling was later to be found INCORRECT DURING THE SAME TOURNAMENT, they had to continue using the SAME RULE UNTIL THE TOURNAMENT WAS OVER, because the Judges needed to be consistent with rulings(to show no favouritism). AFTER THE TOURNAMENT WAS OVER, the correct ruling was put back in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 And let's not forget Foolish Burial + Dimensional Fissure + that Gren Maju guy = 3-card OTK. This ruling is absurdly stupid and completely untenable. I don't see the OTK there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 And let's not forget Foolish Burial + Dimensional Fissure + that Gren Maju guy = 3-card OTK. This ruling is absurdly stupid and completely untenable. I don't see the OTK there. If Lightsworn Foolish Burial mills while Macro Cosmos/Banisher Of The Radiance/Light is on the field' date=' the cards sent will be removed from play instead of sent to the Graveyard. Then, since the effect of [s']the Lightsworn[/s] Foolish Burial didn't properly work (being sent outta play instead of to the Graveyard), the effect activates again, milling once more. They get sent outta play again, and the effect would activate again, creating an endless loop until the player decks out has a 13600 beatstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just-duelist Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 And let's not forget Foolish Burial + Dimensional Fissure + that Gren Maju guy = 3-card OTK. This ruling is absurdly stupid and completely untenable. I don't see the OTK there. if you would use the ruling that the judge stated, foolish effect will continuously activate due to the card not being sent to the grave causing you to remove all monsters in your deck from the game... judge is an idiot... Edit: pika beat me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Guys' date=' I remember back in 2008ish when a Level 5 made an incorrect ruling. Now, because of this ruling was later to be found INCORRECT DURING THE SAME TOURNAMENT, they had to continue using the SAME RULE UNTIL THE TOURNAMENT WAS OVER, because the Judges needed to be consistent with rulings(to show no favouritism). AFTER THE TOURNAMENT WAS OVER, the correct ruling was put back in place.[/quote'] It seems like randomly screwing over just one person who got hit by the bad ruling before the correction is preferable to randomly screwing over everyone running a certain deck. And let's not forget Foolish Burial + Dimensional Fissure + that Gren Maju guy = 3-card OTK. This ruling is absurdly stupid and completely untenable. I don't see the OTK there. Foolish Burial sends a monster to the Graveyard. Dimensional Fissure removes it from play. WAIT WAIT FOOLISH DIDN'T RESOLVE PROPERLY LET'S TRY AGAIN. Foolish Burial sends a monster to the Graveyard. Dimensional Fissure removes it from play. WAIT WAIT ET CETERA. Repeat until an entire deck of monsters is RFP. Normal Summon the Gren Maju guy, who gets at least 8000 ATK from the removed monsters and proceeds to attack for game. I'm not entirely certain that this works under this ruling - maybe End Phase yougottadothis effects are treated differently from Normal Spell dothisoncenow effects - but if it doesn't, this ruling creates abundant other stupidities anyhow. Incidentally, what happens if Dimensional Fissure and, say, Lumina are out? Does Lumina keep sending groups of three cards to the Graveyard, with the monsters being removed, until she hits a solid block of three that are all Spells and Traps? Or does she keep sending cards until a grand running total of three Spells and Traps have been sent? And if the latter, does she always send three cards at a time, or does she start sending them in pairs instead after the first Spell or Trap is sent? This ruling makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaWave Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I love how people suddenly change the way they play over 1 Judge's stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis2 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 What gives the Judge the rights to change the ruling of a card? Isn't Konami the only one that can do that? I never been to a Yugioh local so I don't know if the the Judge is allowed to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 ok, that judge is an idiot, because that makes evey card that sends cards to the grave from the deck an inf. mill effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombiepromking Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 If only this ruling were more than the blunder of a judge that had too much LS hate on his mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Makes sense in a way. Its a ruling based on what happens in the end phase when lyla tries to mill and LADD is negating it. Foolish Burial is a very bad example because its ignition as opposed to trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Makes sense in a way. Its a ruling based on what happens in the end phase when lyla tries to mill and LADD is negating it. Foolish Burial is a very bad example because its ignition as opposed to trigger. the problem of the inf. mill still exists though, and this kind of ruiling should have come up years ago if it is right, and it would have completely changed the way the decks built to fight it work.macro would have been much more common to anti-meta lightsworn decks, and everyone would have had some card that creates a macro effect to kill off lightsworn. this ruling is shitty, and I'm betting someone will overrule it soon enough if it becomes a "but they said" problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 The ruling makes sense, but wether it is fair or not, is another question. To be honest, this ruling might be making Lightsworns better in the future. By using this, Macro Cosmos becomes a very OPed card and beings it's journey up the ban-list. Thus, once Limited or Banned, Lightsworn will be better then ever, because it would be very seldom to get Macro Cosmos in play, lowering the ability of a threat. I would like to see this changed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 I'm going to track down this judge and give him a high five. And if I'm in a good mood, I'll give him a cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 First... Any lvl judge higher than 3 is news to me. Second, ruling sound like something out of a bad episode on the first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 I'm going to track down this judge and give him a high five. And if I'm in a good mood' date=' I'll give him a cookie.[/quote']I'd like to as well, but the main problem is that it completely kills all lightsworn with a mandatory mill effect, and it allows mill effects to be abused with macro effects on an unpressidented level. anyone that can't kill the macro effect before a mill effect triggers means someone will have no deck. I mean, bring needle worm into this, and it shows exactly what the porblem is. if the ruiling extends to effects like these, then basicly all macro effects or all mill effects will have to be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 JD cries. I laugh. Gg. I can see where the judge would get that idea from. However, if its true, than LS would be pissed beyond beleif. Doubt this will stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 lol.I want to see that judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesirson Posted February 10, 2010 Report Share Posted February 10, 2010 If I ever meet that judge I will hug him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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