Naimo Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Well, I guess fantasy is more captivating, caus ANYTHING can happen but sci-fi is more restrictive. Nevertheless, I quite like the book War of the Worlds by H.G.Wells, so for me there is some balance And dramatic irony is when the audience/reader knows something the characters dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Verbal Irony This is the contrast between what is said and what is meant. Most sarcastic comments are ironic. For instance, the person who says, "Nice going, Einstein," isn't really paying anyone a compliment. Dramatic Irony This is the contrast between what the character thinks to be true and what we (the reader) know to be true. Sometimes as we read we are placed in the position of knowing more than what one character knows. Because we know something the character does not, we read to discover how the character will react when he or she learns the truth of the situation. Think soap operas! It's when you know the boogeyman is hiding in the attic, but the hero of the movie doesn't know that. You want him to get a clue and stay away from the attic. "Don't open that door! Get out of the house!" The irony is that the hero thinks he is safe, when you know he's in danger. There is that element of contrast again. Situational Irony It is the contrast between what happens and what was expected. Irony of situation is often humorous, such as when a prank backfires on the prankster. It's the equivalent of a person spraying shaving cream in his own face when he was trying to spray his best friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira Magister Magi Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 I know this has to be some form of irony... What's it called when the underdog, by the end, becomes the top dog? Which brings me to a NEGATIVE writing tool. CLICHé!! Cliché, stay away. Cliché is when something is overused to the point of annoyance. Example: I just said, underdog -> top dog conversion happening over the course of the story. It happens/has happened in so many stories, it ticks people off to see it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 I'd like to see the top dog becoem the underdog sometimes. And VERY few stories have done it. I think one manga series did it. THis super-awesome martial artist couldn't be beat, so his father dislocated all his bones and put them back together or something, and made him so much weaker it wasn't even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira Magister Magi Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Harry Potter, most average Joe -> person with powers stories (an example of what isn't most is Greatest American Hero, though I'm not sure that's what t's actually called, because he couldn't figure out how to use his powers so was still verage at most times.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twig Posted May 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 You forgot so many...epithet' date=' metonymy, sinecdoc, repetition (recurrence, anaphoric or epiphoric), antithesis, enumeration, invective, euphemism, metathesis... [b']I didn't notice Atman was missing repetition. I've never heard of the others...[/b] Oh' date=' no one else posted? New Topic: Fantasy vs. SciFi[/quote'] Add them together for the win. I really should go write Vene... By the way, people, Climax IS a lit device.Are you sure? I thought climax was the most dramatic/action-filled/major part of a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Epithet- Like... Gracious warrior, Ravenous beast, etc.Antithesis- Polar OppositeEuphenism- A phrase of some sort, used in Beowulf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayasato-chan Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 I know this has to be some form of irony... What's it called when the underdog' date=' by the end, becomes the top dog? Which brings me to a NEGATIVE writing tool. CLICHé!! Cliché, stay away. Cliché is when something is overused to the point of annoyance. Example: I just said, underdog -> top dog conversion happening over the course of the story. It happens/has happened in so many stories, it ticks people off to see it again.[/quote'] A cliche is intertwined with hyperbole. Exaggerations and over using usually go hand-in-hand. An example: "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse" This is a cliche I'm sure most people are familiar with several. Hyperbole because it is an over-exaggeration. And also, to clarify, a euphemism is usually a phrase or term that one uses to convey one meaning with lighter words, Ex. You would say "They are intimate" instead of blatantly saying "They are (insert intercourse word/phrase here)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twig Posted May 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 A cliche is intertwined with hyperbole. Exaggerations and over using usually go hand-in-hand. An example: "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse" This is a cliche I'm sure most people are familiar with several. Hyperbole because it is an over-exaggeration. Not always. Cliches can be anything that is overused. For example: The knight in shining armor slays the dragon and rescues the princess at the top of the highest tower in the castle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 You forgot so many...epithet' date=' metonymy, sinecdoc, repetition (recurrence, anaphoric or epiphoric), antithesis, enumeration, invective, euphemism, metathesis... [b']I didn't notice Atman was missing repetition. I've never heard of the others...[/b] Oh' date=' no one else posted? New Topic: Fantasy vs. SciFi[/quote'] Add them together for the win. I really should go write Vene... By the way, people, Climax IS a lit device.Are you sure? I thought climax was the most dramatic/action-filled/major part of a story. 1. Climax IS what you said, but that's what makes it a lit device. There are climaxless stories. Metonymy - expressing cause through effect or an object through its originExample: Religious people fear death. (Fear was the reason why religion was invented) Sinecdoc - restraining or enlarging the meaning of a wordExample: Only the finest brains run this company. (brains meaning smart individuals) Invective - swearing with the intention of having the subject submitExample: You're nothing but an asshole that should burn in hell! Metathesis - changing the order of words in a sentence so that the most important and stressed words come firstExample: I own a yacht that's huge (instead of "I own a huge yacht." the idea itself of owning a yacht makes the speaker awesome) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--------------- Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Hehe, sorry about repetition, I forgot about it. Don't know the others \: I'm writing the Easter Egg Fanfic. Anyone got some ideas for characters? Preferably villains for the Prologue. All I need is the name, game, and wiki page. KTHXBAI! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deustodo Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I know what I noticed? You can't peform a mind control in mindless people, because there is nothing to control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 You can just body control them. Body control > mind control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deustodo Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Then how do you perform a body control in a ghost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted May 6, 2010 Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 You soul control them, although THAT can get tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimiri of the Muse Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Isn't Death Note had already finished? I think the guy name "Kira" died in the end because that demon-thing wrote his name in the Death Note. n-n-n-nooooooooooooo! here comes more depression, d*mn shinigami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--------------- Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 @all^^^: Wtf?? first we were talking about my guide, then mind/body/soul control, then deathnote... New Official Topic: um..... ......ooh, lets talk about the Apocalyspe :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisu Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Why does God have to fart again!? YCM's 2012 will be a ZeoClairTwiggeusCodey + CrabHelmetBAWSMOED VS YCMaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deustodo Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 The Apocalyspe will never happen because the Earth itself is not going to be destroyed, it will be still here, we, humans, are the one that gonna die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 The Apocalyspe will never happen because the Earth itself is not going to be destroyed' date=' it will be still here, we, humans, are the one that gonna die.[/quote'] You do realize that in 1000000000000000 years the expanding universe will make atoms split automatically, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--------------- Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Um....right.... Well, what if the Sun went Supernova? Byebye earth! (and the other planets...) ....even though thats 6,000,000,000 years away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deustodo Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 The Apocalyspe will never happen because the Earth itself is not going to be destroyed' date=' it will be still here, we, humans, are the one that gonna die.[/quote'] You do realize that in 1,000,000,000,000,000 years the expanding universe will make atoms split automatically, right?Cool Story bro.Um....right.... Well' date=' what if the Sun went Supernova? Byebye earth! (and the other planets...) ....even though thats 6,000,000,000 years away...[/quote']Well, I don't know how you are going to say bye to the planet before melting, but... make sure to make a video of it and post on youtube before you die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira Magister Magi Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Isn't Death Note had already finished? I think the guy name "Kira" died in the end because that demon-thing wrote his name in the Death Note. n-n-n-nooooooooooooo! here comes more depression' date=' d*mn shinigami[/quote'] Old news is old. @topic: I hate apocalyptic theories after Y2K. Sure, that one would have happened, but it DIDN'T! So I don't believe them anymore. As the old saying goes, "The magic's in the mystery". I don't WANT TO KNOW when the world will end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twig Posted May 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 There's just some things that you shouldn't know, and that includes when the world will end. I bet one billion dollars that 2012 won't happen. cwutididthar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisu Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 iduncwutudidthar D: But seriously. YCM's Apacolaspe V1 is set. What I said in my last post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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