Toffee. Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 lolanimecardtopic.Zephyros' armor should have ben a light green color :/[align=center]By returning 1 card you control to your hand and taking 400 damage' date=' Special Summon this card from your Graveyard. If this card is Special Summoned by this effect, when a card is Set on the field, this card is destroyed.[/quote'][/align]I found this funny: This + any card + Mass Driver = OTK(Provided your Lifepoints are higher then your opponents)Heck, you can even abuse this with something like Rekindling. On-top of that, this card actually makes Black Feather Dragon more playable >________> Discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I fail to remember when Crow used this. But anyways, it's decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killey Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Crow used this in episode 95 (the most recent one) in conjunction with Black Feather Dragon. [spoiler=yugioh 5D ep 95 spoilers]It basically creates an infinite loop where Black Feather Dragon takes the damage instead of you to gain counters. You repeat the process until his ATK is 0 then use his effect to reduce the ATK of 1 monster your opponent controls by the same amount while returning his own attack back to noraml. There was some synchro monster with 2800 ATK so Crow used this loop to reduce BFD's ATK to 0 then used the effect to reduce the monsters atk to 0 then attack over for game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 wont have that effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazin Kay Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Probably not, no. It'll be dumbed down to a garbage super and be forgotten like the obese neko it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Lol.DARK.Winged-Beast.LV4 tuner with no restrictions.Can revive himself.Gives +s. Broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Lol.DARK.Winged-Beast.LV4 tuner with no restrictions.Can revive himself.Gives +s. Broken. For the record' date=' its [i']not[/i] a Tuner.But it effectivly turns any level 4 Tuner into a Stardust Dragon/Red Dragon Archfiend/what ever, by simply paying 400 Lifepoints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Didn't Crow tune him to Bora? (I just skimmed through the episode and I might have missed something) Lol.:D Well it's still broken. Cannon Soldier(unlimited)/Toon Cannon Soldier(unlimited)/TToC(unlimited)+Foolish Burial (semi-limited) / or just send him to the grave with your draw engine+Any spell or trap card (limited to 60 :D)=FTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Didn't Crow tune him to Bora? (I just skimmed through the episode and I might have missed something) Lol.:D Well it's still broken. Cannon Soldier(unlimited)/Toon Cannon Soldier(unlimited)/TToC(unlimited)+Foolish Burial (semi-limited) / or just send him to the grave with your draw engine+Any spell or trap card (limited to 60 :D)=FTK You would need to do atleast 400 dmg before you start because otherwise you kill yourself. Still, broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killey Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I don't think it's broken just for that FTK possibility. It's not that much different then the Quilbolt OTK combo. What truly makes this broken is the fact it's a Level 4 Dark BW monster that can keep SSing itself from the grave. Essentially, if you can Summon a Tuner you can get a Synchro. The only thing you have to be concerned about is the set card draw back, which may or may not be harder to acheive. Definitely not utilizing this guy in an anti-meta deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Didn't Crow tune him to Bora? (I just skimmed through the episode and I might have missed something) Lol.:D Well it's still broken. Cannon Soldier(unlimited)/Toon Cannon Soldier(unlimited)/TToC(unlimited)+Foolish Burial (semi-limited) / or just send him to the grave with your draw engine+Any spell or trap card (limited to 60 :D)=FTK You would need to do atleast 400 dmg before you start because otherwise you kill yourself. Still' date=' broken.[/quote'] Every time you summon it you take 400 damage, so you can summon him 19 times.19x500=9500=FTKI don't think it's broken just for that FTK possibility. It's not that much different then the Quilbolt OTK combo. What truly makes this broken is the fact it's a Level 4 Dark BW monster that can keep SSing itself from the grave. Essentially' date=' if you can Summon a Tuner you can get a Synchro. The only thing you have to be concerned about is the set card draw back, which may or may not be harder to acheive. Definitely not utilizing this guy in an anti-meta deck.[/quote'] This is way easier to do than the Quilbolt loop. And tbh I will not be surprised if this FTKs as consistently as EotS. Of course he is broken even without the loop. Mass Driver + Foolish + A card that deals 400 or more dmg is another FTK. EDIT: Mass Driver + Zeph = FTK ... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkWyvren Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 *starts singing "I've got a feeling"* Card is awesome and can do multiple otks if you have:Cannon Solder(not mk2 b/c mk2 is lv5)more then 8000 lpany 1 spell awesome card for synchros also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Didn't Crow tune him to Bora? (I just skimmed through the episode and I might have missed something) Lol.:D Well it's still broken. Cannon Soldier(unlimited)/Toon Cannon Soldier(unlimited)/TToC(unlimited)+Foolish Burial (semi-limited) / or just send him to the grave with your draw engine+Any spell or trap card (limited to 60 :D)=FTK You would need to do atleast 400 dmg before you start because otherwise you kill yourself. Still' date=' broken.[/quote'] Every time you summon it you take 400 damage, so you can summon him 19 times.19x500=9500=FTK *facepalm* I'm thinking it's in the grave from the start, I'm also thinking Mass Driver. Zeph + Mass Driver + any s/t (all in hand) = FTK with you having 400 LP left :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Zeph + Mass Driver + any s/t (all in hand) = FTK with you having 400 LP left :3Mass Driver does 400 damage. So how do you have 400 left? Oh' date=' and you can actually FTK with the above combo, if you use Cyber Kirin.Cyber F-Ing Kirin now has a purpose[/zomg'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Zeph + Mass Driver = FTK with you having 400 LP left :3Mass Driver does 400 damage. So how do you have 400 left? Oh' date=' and you can actually FTK with the above combo, if you use Cyber Kirin.Cyber F-Ing Kirin now has a purpose[/zomg'] Because you recieve 400 less than your opponent because the first sack of Zeph is summoned from your hand and is only after, therefore, you have 400 left. Btw, you don't need another s/t, you can just return Mass Driver and then replay it :D You: 8000Opponent: 8000You: Summon Zeph, play mass Driver, tribute Zeph (O: 7600) return Mass to hand, ss Zeph (You: 7600), re-play Driver, rinse and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Question about the effect, when it says "when a card is set on the field" I would assume that it does not apply to cards that were already set when it was summoned? Or does it mean that any set card kills it? Either way, this is massively useful in Dark simorgh decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 The pic looks like Vegeta crushing a scouter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 You: 8000Opponent: 8000You: Summon Zeph' date=' play mass Driver, tribute Zeph (O: 7600) return Mass to hand, ss Zeph (You: 7600), re-play Driver, rinse and repeat.[/quote']Nvmd. I was bieng stupid, and didnt realize that you would be in the lead after you first use Mass Driver. So this is, in fact, a 2-card FTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 You: 8000Opponent: 8000You: Summon Zeph' date=' play mass Driver, tribute Zeph (O: 7600) return Mass to hand, ss Zeph (You: 7600), re-play Driver, rinse and repeat.[/quote']Nvmd. I was bieng stupid, and didnt realize that you would be in the lead after you first use Mass Driver. So this is, in fact, a 2-card FTK. WAIT A MINUTE!!!! Is this a real card in japan? and I think that we here are misunderstanding the rulings on this. As asked earlier... Question about the effect' date=' when it says "when a card is set on the field" I would assume that it does not apply to cards that were already set when it was summoned? Or does it mean that any set card kills it?[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 One of the easiest FTKs ever, with this effect. Definitely the easiest advanced format FTK. If it's released, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Easy way to fix it to the standard of currently legal cards: add a "Once per turn" clause, or make it only work on the End Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Easy way to fix it: don't release this abomination. Knowing Konami, my guess is they'll release it will the Quillbolt/Carrier clause: it ends up RFPing itself after use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Easy way to fix it: don't release this abomination. Knowing Konami' date=' my guess is they'll release it will the Quillbolt/Carrier clause: it ends up RFPing itself after use.[/quote'] Yeah, adding that clause would make it much less broken, but it would still be run in almost every deck for tribute and synchro fodder, or just for more LP dmg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Easy way to fix it: don't release this abomination. Knowing Konami' date=' my guess is they'll release it will the Quillbolt/Carrier clause: it ends up RFPing itself after use.[/quote'] Yeah, adding that clause would make it much less broken, but it would still be run in almost every deck for tribute and synchro fodder, or just for more LP dmg. Me thinks:A- They edit the effect to only work while you control Black Feather Dragon.B- They edit it to where you can only revive it while you control another Blackwing, and replace the 400 damage thing with a discard effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 It's so easy to balance, but as is it's easily broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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