LADD ATK = 1 BILLION

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1 light and darkness dragon

1 reverse trap

1 Level Eater

 

ill let you figure it out

[burnpsy]

During the turn "Reverse Trap" is activated' date=' "Light and Darkness Dragon's" second effect will only activate 1 time after "Reverse Trap" resolves. When it does, it will gain 500 ATK and DEF instead of losing 500 ATK and DEF. "Light and Darkness Dragon's" second effect will activate normally during following turns, and if it gained 500 ATK and DEF the gained ATK and DEF becomes a loss of 500 ATK and DEF.

 

* Example A: Player A activates "Reverse Trap" in his Main Phase 1. Afterwards, he Tribute Summons "Light and Darkness Dragon". Player B activates "Bottomless Trap Hole". "Light and Darkness Dragon's" effect activates, negating "Bottomless Trap Hole" and gaining 500 ATK and DEF. During the Battle Phase, Player A attacks with "Light and Darkness Dragon". Player B activates "Sakuretsu Armor". "Light and Darkness Dragon's" second effect does not activate and it is destroyed by "Sakuretsu Armor".[/quote']

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that rulling doesnt even make sence if you just read the cards.....

is it just tcg or ocg aswell??

and was the ruling made under ude?

[burnpsy]

TCG, OCG rulings don't even handle the subject.

 

I dunno the answer to the other question.

[.:pyramid:.]

no the reason was, if it was a ruling made under, ude and only counted for tcg, coz konami now are tcg, and their is no ude judges. these sorts of rulings can get changed

[burnpsy]

no the reason was' date=' if it was a ruling made under, ude and only counted for tcg, coz konami now are tcg, and their is no ude judges. these sorts of rulings can get changed

[/quote']

 

Well, Konami added a "rules question" e-mail, so you could always ask them.

 

That said, you may get the same idiot I got who said: "There are no OCG or TCG rulings, there are simply the rulings, applicable worldwide." or something to that effect.

[BulletMan]

Assuming this did work, you would have to set Reverse Trap ahead of time, hoping it won't be destroyed or negated. Then you would need two Tributes, or Kaiser Sea Horse to get him out, and then getting Level Eater in the Grave.

 

So at fastest, -1 Kaiser first turn, -1 set Reverse, -1 Foolish Level Eater.

 

next turn, with hope everything went well, use Reverse, Tribute Kaiser for LaDD, Eater activates and yeah, lots of ATK, try to get an attack in, as long as they don't have a Defense Position monster.

 

 

But it takes atleast 4 cards, 2 turns, and can be easily ruined, as well as the fact that the rulings screw it. So, meh...

[Psycho Shocker Android]

The Reverse Trap ruling is clear. In order to activate LaDD's effect you need to be able to pay the cost for it. In this case reducing his Atk and Def. But, if you activate Reverse Trap you can't pay the cost properly since it would boost is stats. Thereofre you can't activate LaDD's effect during the turn reverse trap has been played.

[Azuh]

Remember Reverse Trap hasn't been reprinted in many years, thus using old text

[Toffee.]

that rulling doesnt even make sence if you just read the cards.....

Pretty much :/

 

Because appearently the cost to the effect is him losing 500ATK/DEF. And appearently if that cant happen, then his effect does nothing.

 

Regardless, it still doesnt make sence.

[Yankee]

The Reverse Trap ruling is clear. In order to activate LaDD's effect you need to be able to pay the cost for it. In this case reducing his Atk and Def. But' date=' if you activate Reverse Trap you can't pay the cost properly since it would boost is stats. Thereofre you can't activate LaDD's effect during the turn reverse trap has been played.

[/quote']

 

From what I see on Reverse Trap..it says the effects of increasing or decreasing is reversed..so..technically, you ARE paying the cost of it's effect...wich has now become you having to increase it's ATK by 500...

 

Just from what I understand...

[BlastCap]

That maks sense atually though it is very confusing. I don't know what level eater is but ive seen reverse trap.

[Fraz]

that rulling doesnt even make sence if you just read the cards.....

Pretty much :/

 

Because appearently the cost to the effect is him losing 500ATK/DEF. And appearently if that cant happen' date=' then his effect does nothing.

 

Regardless, it still doesnt make sence.

[/quote']

 

Makes perfect sense. LADD's effect says he needs to lower his attack to be able to negate stuff. If he can't do that then he can't negate stuff.

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that rulling doesnt even make sence if you just read the cards.....

Pretty much :/

 

Because appearently the cost to the effect is him losing 500ATK/DEF. And appearently if that cant happen' date=' then his effect does nothing.

 

Regardless, it still doesnt make sence.

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Makes perfect sense. LADD's effect says he needs to lower his attack to be able to negate stuff. If he can't do that then he can't negate stuff.

 

right lets look at ladd effect

 

This card cannot be Special Summoned. While this card is face-up on the field, its Attribute is also treated as DARK. When a Spell or Trap Card is activated, or the effect of an Effect Monster is activated, that activation is negated and this card loses 500 ATK and DEF. When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard, select 1 monster in your Graveyard. Then destroy all cards you control, and Special Summon that monster.

 

the underlined part is the cost, while the bolded part is the effect. so infact its the otherway round. LADD's effect says he needs to negate stuff to be able to lower its attack .

[Fraz]

You don't understand yugioh logic.

[CrabHelmet]

Rulings say that the 500 ATK/DEF loss occurs when LADD resolves, not when it activates - which, naturally, corroborates the wording of the card, which places the stat drain after the negation. It is definitely an effect, not a cost.

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

It's a BKSS moment, get use to it :S