Psycho Shocker Android Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 yes' date=' because i refuse to use it..... but i did abuse Time Seal when it was at 3.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 im suprised that Delinquent Duo' date=' being banned for almost ever at the moment, was limited for a super short while...... and there was 3 cards that went from Unlimited to Banned.. and they were*Drum Roll* Chaos Sorceror, Cyber Stein and Time Seal.[/quote'] I don't smell CED. Also, you forgot, as Crab said, DSF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 To be Honest' date=' [s']Sacred Phoenix[/s] should probably still be somewhere on the list. Fixed because I can. No, because it's useful but not broken in many decks other than lightsworn. Honest is not a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 yes' date=' because i refuse to use it..... but i did abuse Time Seal when it was at 3.[/quote'] good times, good times... im suprised that Delinquent Duo' date=' being banned for almost ever at the moment, was limited for a super short while...... and there was 3 cards that went from Unlimited to Banned.. and they were*Drum Roll* Chaos Sorceror, Cyber Stein and Time Seal.[/quote'] I don't smell CED. Also, you forgot, as Crab said, DSF. CED never went from Unlimited to Banned..there was a very very very small period where he was at 1. then banned....and yes, i did forget DSF. but we're talking history of formats past, not the recentish ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 ...?You don't get to choose the card that goes into your hand. That's actually the disadvantage' date=' not that you can't choose, but that a card DOES go into your hand. It would be actually better if no card went into your hand and all went into the graveyard. Imagine! 3 Wulfs and 1 superstrong zombie (thanks to the minotaur guy) in one shot.yes, because i refuse to use it..... but i did abuse Time Seal when it was at 3.I sense sarcasm. This being a bantalk anyway, let's speak about the genius of Konami when they banned Chaos Sorcerer. Seriously, it was broken! [/sarcasm, for all of you that are twisted enough to think I was talking straight] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 lol@honest is not a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 lol@honest is not a problem Explain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 This being a bantalk anyway' date=' let's speak about the genius of Konami when they banned Chaos Sorcerer. Seriously, it was broken! [/sarcasm, for all of you that are twisted enough to think I was talking straight] And you were doing so well up until the white text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 rofl. why is honest a problem? have you played an ls deck ever? it allows them to overextend and play recklessly with the presence or even just bluff of an honest protecting them. in addition to being stackable, it's also easily recyclable with beckoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest setojim Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 who here loved trinity format? xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 who here loved trinity format? xD I did, I was one of the few running the apprentice engine while everybody else was running triple dekoichi. Needless to say playing 4 pot of greed per game along with delinquent duo and graceful charity was quite entertaining (for me at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 rofl. why is honest a problem? have you played an ls deck ever? it allows them to overextend and play recklessly with the presence or even just bluff of an honest protecting them. in addition to being stackable' date=' it's also easily recyclable with beckoning.[/quote'] So Honest isn't the problem, as much as it's ability to be combined with LS. Honest works in fairies, chaos, and various other decks to make them more competative. So LS just needs to get hit, and honest will be far less broken. And with the speculation that beckoning gets hit, tis ok for honest to remain at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 rofl. why is honest a problem? have you played an ls deck ever? it allows them to overextend and play recklessly with the presence or even just bluff of an honest protecting them. in addition to being stackable' date=' it's also easily recyclable with beckoning.[/quote'] Honest doesn't allow LS to overextend nor to play recklessly. Your argument is invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 disagree completely. the only balancing factor of lumina is 1000 attack points, and her, ryko and your mother can be left in attack mode with little fear of reprisal. ls is a problem, but honest's stackability is his own special problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 ITT: Summoning a weak monster in ATK mode = OverextensionAnd ITT: Honest can stop nukes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 This being a bantalk anyway' date=' let's speak about the genius of Konami when they banned Chaos Sorcerer. Seriously, it was broken! [/sarcasm, for all of you that are twisted enough to think I was talking straight] And you were doing so well up until the white text. Just because it's stronger than 90% of the cards out there and should be limited doesn't mean that it should have been banned, not now, not ever. But if you're still speaking about Honest, I will tell you a very effective and funny way of getting rid of him. I actually used it once: 1. You attack.2. Your opponent discards Honest3. You use Compulsory Evacuation Device. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 lolwrong.you cant use compulse during the damage step. if they use honest before that then theyre retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 This being a bantalk anyway' date=' let's speak about the genius of Konami when they banned Chaos Sorcerer. Seriously, it was broken! [/sarcasm, for all of you that are twisted enough to think I was talking straight] And you were doing so well up until the white text. Just because it's stronger than 90% of the cards out there and should be limited doesn't mean that it should have been banned, not now, not ever. But if you're still speaking about Honest, I will tell you a very effective and funny way of getting rid of him. I actually used it once: 1. You attack.2. Your opponent discards Honest3. You use Compulsory Evacuation Device. End of story. It doesn't works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatty Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Doesn't it? Damn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 it does if they use honest way early, but they usually save it for damage step so that you cant do sheet like compulse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 it does if they use honest way early' date=' but they usually save it for damage step so that you cant do s*** like compulse.[/quote'] The text says that you use it during the damage step. I don't think you can activate it before that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathxy Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 DDV kill honest for 3 turns chaos sorc is bannable and he was banned cuz he must at that time, now we have broken cards than CS, and with konami logic, its obvious to be at 2 ATM or 3 in march, IDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 By the information put in front of me, I shall decipher a story: "Cards, there were so many of them. Some were unique, some were stupid, and some were as powerful as *Insert Powerful Comparison here*. When more booster packs were being released, players started to complain with comments such as "Oh, I am beaten too quickly! Someone do something about it!!!" (Young players). Konami listening to the cries of these players, have devised a list of cards that would be limited. At that time, it was just the limited list. Powerful cards like Exodia, Raigeki, and Imperial Order were put on the list. However, players still used these cards and even abused it as well! The players were angry and a handful of players retired from the amount of losses they have suffered. Konami, feeling threatened at this point decided to forbid most of these limited cards. They have called it the forbidden & limited list. Players started to come back after this change and started to win again. Konami, realizing that they were doing a good job, decided to exercise the list even more. However, Konami gradually grew blinded by their own power and put cards on the list that shouldn't even be there. They actually ended up losing more players than they have got back. Today, Konami is changing the list everytime before their due date even if they are still blinded by their power." Is this a good story to explain the history of ban lists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 really? maybe it was just any part of the damage step that i'm thinking of and why run ddv? ew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 honest can be activated the minute an attack is declared...but smart players wait until the just before Damage Calculation so you can't Necro Gardna the attack (as Necro Gardna, along with many other Traps/Quickplays cannot activate during the Damage Step, or before Damage Calc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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