Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 JD at 1 (not 0' date=' not even lightsworns deserve that)[/quote'] LS don't deserve it, but JD deserves to be banned. Sure the LS archetype as a viable tourney deck may be lost, but as we can see from the integration of D-Heroes, they won't die :SDAD needs to stay where he is' date=' Burial needs to get hit because Konami can't ban Mezuki or Vayu.[/quote'] Please try to fail less at the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 DAD needs to stay where he is' date=' Burial needs to get hit because Konami can't ban Mezuki or Vayu.[/quote'] Please try to fail less at the game. What would your suggestions be for Vayu, Mezuki and BFTDD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 DAD needs to stay where he is' date=' Burial needs to get hit because Konami can't ban Mezuki or Vayu.[/quote'] Please try to fail less at the game. What would your suggestions be for Vayu, Mezuki and BFTDD? Well, limiting Vayu and Mezuki while keeping BfaDD pretty much kills it :S BfaDD isn't the problem, Vayu, Mezuki, and PSZ are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 DAD needs to stay where he is' date=' Burial needs to get hit because Konami can't ban Mezuki or Vayu.[/quote'] Please try to fail less at the game. What would your suggestions be for Vayu, Mezuki and BFTDD? Well, limiting Vayu and Mezuki while keeping BfaDD pretty much kills it :S BfaDD isn't the problem, Vayu, Mezuki, and PSZ are. But hitting BFADD leaves the door closed for new broken combos with it (which we all know are probably coming soon). And yes, Vayu, Mezuki, and PSZ are a problem, but they can't all get hit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I love this thread. Even with Konami logic some of the things here are too good. Based on the past BWW: 2Brionic: 1Brain: 0Honest: 2Tribe-Infecting Virus: 1BftDD: 1/2Treeborn Frog: 2Neo-Spacian Grand Mole: 2Vayu: 1Allure: 1 So what the OCG meta like. I'm looking at some of the decks and I can't figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizzfan911 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 my only guesses is for stuff that will go to 1 Red-Eyes Darkness Metal(just a guess)Sky Scourge Norleras(possibilities for OTK in Hopeless)Vayu to 1JD(i think we all know why)Phantom of Chaos to 1 or 2 possibly? Just a few guesses. Everyone at my locals has a hopeless but me so this is pretty much what i could tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mac Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Lumina: 1Wulf: 1 maybe 0Celestia: 1 or 2Brain: 0Brionac: 1JD: 1 using Konami Logic, Banned using GOOD logicBFaDD: 1 or banned This is what Im expecting anyway. Probaly some other things to, but these are the only suspicions I really care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of Clubs Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Apparently bumping up Chaos Sorcerer one position at a time makes it undetectable and completely balanced. WELL HE DIDNT RUIN THE GAME AT ONE SOOOOOO…HEY TWO WASNT THAT BAD EITHER SO LETS COMPLETELY UNLIMIT HIM GUYS. PERHAPS IF WE FORCE THIS GAME TO GO DOWNHILL FAST ENOUGH WE'LL FLY OFF A RAMP OR SOMETHING On a positive note, maybe they'll actually start denting Lightsworns with the banlist. They are rather old by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Would the world stop if JD goes to 1?Nah, theres so many cards to get it back. My fav: Herald of creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of Clubs Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Would the world stop if JD goes to 1?Nah' date=' theres so many cards to get it back. My fav: Herald of creation.[/quote'] Why would doing anything other than banning a card like that eliminate the problem? Wouldn't it just be more of a pain and even more lucksack when somebody drew it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Lightsworns mill. If multiple JD gets milled it's impossible to crow both and we don't have that Ally of Justice Double Crow to stop Beckoning Light abuse. Sure if you draw JD or get him with Gold Sarc you have to deal with him the hard way but your opponent can't set him up. Gold Sarc will cause you to get Mind Crushed in game 2 (which isn't bad you can also name Honest). Top Decking him will trigger that Solemn Judgment or BTH. Still painful but you're not losing to some random OTK and since you're up against LS you should be able to recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 norleras isnt a problem. the problem with that combo is poc. he's at least limitable, but given how searchable he is he should be banned. this is assuming a banlist containing around 20 other cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridiculosity Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Yeah, I want Red Eyes Metal Darkness at One, considering how easily we'll be able to get him soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallieBigs Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I know it's different from what everyone else think' date=' but take a look.[spoiler=New Ban List'] Newly Banned:Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier 0?Self-Destruct Button okWulf, Lightsworn Beast lolBrain Control maybe Newly Limited:Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner true maybe semi'dCelestia, Lightsworn Angel aboveChaos Sorcerer nahMezuki possiblyBurial from the Different Dimension This or semi'dMagician of Faith YES! Newly Semi-Limited:Blackwing-Vayu, The Emblem of Honour good enoughBlack Whirlwind sureTragodea Meh maybe 1Royal Oppression Ugh I guess so Newly Unlimited:Magical Stone Excavation Ugh I think it might stay at 2 for no reason at all aside from the fact Konami hates me ;DMind Crush Mmmmm Notably Untouched:Honest Well sure I guessJudgment Dragon YesDeep Sea Diva Very trueMarshmallon I have to say yesBook of Moon I guess soCharge of the Light Brigade Of course...Gold Sarcophagus Meh this wouldn't be a surprise to me...ROTA Ugh yesBottomless Trap Hole meh This list significantly Weakens LS without killing their boss monster or eliminating cards that aren't broken in other decks (honest). It also significantly slows down zombies without killing them. For card explanations, PM me or post here... Good or Bad List?That was all right. I have a small thought: ROTA might stay or go up to 2Mezuki limitedBfaDD semi/limitedStarlight Road limitedMoF limited that's all I have right now.Yata at 3 jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Here is my 2 cents Limited: Black WhirlwindVayuJDChargeBurial from a Different DimensionAbsolute Zero Semi' Limited: LuminaHonestDivaCelestiaRed-Eyes Darkness Metal DragonDestiny Draw Banned: Brain (I want it to go, and yet I don't want it to go) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Banned: None Limited: JDGoblin Zombie Semi Limited:BestiariRescue Cat or Summoner Monk Unlimited:TsukiomiBrionac I'm fairly certain the above will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Banned: None Limited: JDGoblin Zombie Semi Limited:BestiariRescue Cat or Summoner Monk Unlimited:TsukiomiBrionac I'm fairly certain the above will happen. Even using Konami logic Brionac's gonna get hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Banned: None Limited: JDGoblin Zombie Semi Limited:BestiariRescue CatSummoner Monk Unlimited:TsukiomiBrionac I'm fairly certain the above will happen. Only if Gyzarus goes to 1 And No to Kitty, as cute as he is, he stays at 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 put monk at 2. it suffered because of that damned cat. i feel goblin zombie should stay at 2 tbh.... i do agree with Fraz's other ideas however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Dahlia Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I liked some parts to the list, and some l didn't understand. Tragoedia isn't broken. BOM should stay to 3. Mezuki at 1 will destroy zombies again, 2 is fine. Deeps sea diva@1? l lol'd. It's good, but not broken. Honest will be at 2 if hit. Beckoning will not get hit. That's my input. How l long for stratos to make a comeback... On a side note: That damn hamster thing should get hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 @Everyone who is limiting Lumina, Lyla, Wulf and other LS. Konami loves archetypes and will never butcher them like that. They are just going to limit/ban the biggest problem (in this case JD) and leave everything else alone. They only butcher the deck, when it is made from random cards that have synergy (e.g. TeleDAD, Synchro Cat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 historically have we have ever had an archetype that was straight up broken in and of itself?not counting chaos, because that was only 3 cards and a few obscure sts that never got used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Dahlia Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 historically have we have ever had an archetype that was straight up broken in and of itself?not counting chaos' date=' because that was only 3 cards and a few obscure sts that never got used.[/quote'] Zombies crumbled when Mezuki was limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 BannedJDBrionic LimitedBlack Whirlwind is all im hoping for. thats not to much to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 BannedJDBrionic LimitedBlack Whirlwind is all im hoping for. thats not to much to ask. Ironically, this isn't such a bad proposal. I'd ban Vayu and Limit BfaDD while we're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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